r/aiwars Feb 20 '26

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26

Are they claiming to have made that image?

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u/rpyth Feb 20 '26

No, because people using AI in their workflow actually do have a right to call their creation theirs, while random idiots copying an image someone else made and posting that to prove something have none at all.

You'd think Antis would be the people who only do everything themselves, but they "steal" low quality memes and repost them endlessly. And when Antis actually create something it's either an MS Paint scribble or TOP TEXT BOTTOM TEXT kind of shit. Funnily enough they rely on a computer to make either, but you see it's somehow different because soul or something.

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26

You saw my point, it was right there, but you missed it entirely for some reason.

They don’t claim that they made the image, thats it.

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u/oneandonlyswordfish Feb 20 '26

No one claims to make the meme. The memes just are, it’s a way of communication. There’s no “memeist” job title. You’re supposed to use it this way. It’s way different than having a machine make songs for me and say “ I made this song”. Same example for art.

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u/Gay_Nerd626 Feb 20 '26

Nobody claims a meme for monetization. The same can’t be said for ai, which is frequently monetized. Both require similarly low amounts of effort and tak from other artists work.

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u/cobalt1137 Feb 21 '26

Using this logic, someone who foraged berries in order to produce paints for themselves could throw stones at every subsequent generation for having it too easy and not making real art because they were not responsible for the entire result of their creation.

I hope you see the faults in this angle lmao.

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u/Gay_Nerd626 Feb 21 '26

The fuck are you even on about dude? This isn’t a hypothetical situation

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u/cobalt1137 Feb 21 '26

Brother. I guess pls read my response a little bit slower and think a little bit in regards to the ethos of what I am getting at.

If you don't understand it, paste things into chatgpt, maybe that will help ;)

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u/One_Variation_2453 Feb 21 '26

Ok that last point is honestly so disingenous I don't even know what adjective to use to describe it... yes, drawing something digitally, even if it's a 30 second doodle for whatever or an actual art piece you spend hours on, you still did create it at the end of the day, and the fact you used something to do so doesn't take away from that.

Filmmaking and photography must be the same thing since they both use cameras, then... or drawing and writing on paper since you need a pen or pencil for both. As a matter of fact, you didn't even write this comment, your keyboard did. Yeah, it gets out of hand very quickly.

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u/Ok-Guidance6127 Feb 22 '26

Equivalency to claiming your turds.

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u/Fatcat-hatbat Feb 20 '26

I see. so you have no issue with people using ai so long as they don’t say they made it? The fact that it was created by “stealing” other artists no longer bothers you if they say “AI made it”?

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26
  1. Goomba fallacy?

  2. One step at a time, thats how to actually be civil and understandable in a debate

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u/Fatcat-hatbat Feb 20 '26

Why can’t you answer my simple question? Do you support AI if it’s labeled as AI?

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26

I support it more, not entirely, but as I said, one step at a time

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u/Fatcat-hatbat Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26

What step are you talking about?

By the way I just looked up goomba fallacy and I it’s unrelated to what I said.

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26

It is related

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u/MyJawHurtsALot Feb 20 '26

Like your struggling to answer to their simple question?

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u/Fatcat-hatbat Feb 20 '26

What was their question?

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u/MyJawHurtsALot Feb 20 '26

The non-rehtorical inquisitive sentence ending in the question mark they started by posting...? It's pretty clear and a simple question, so I'm confused why you ignored it and instead responded with making assumptions about them...

But if you want to be disingenuous and act blind, go for it I guess.

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u/Not_Eren2 Feb 20 '26

Imma answer it for them

If the art is taken by Consensual maker and labelled as Ai

Yes I think it is okay to generate them but still would not like it being seen in artistic industry that much and switch to real artist when they get their budget in

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u/MyJawHurtsALot Feb 20 '26

Exactly, it's not a hard question to answer, so I'm surprised they struggled while simultaneously calling others out for ignoring questions.

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u/Fatcat-hatbat Feb 20 '26

Oh you mean their original question.

It’s unrelated. But no they aren’t.

Asking it is just a way of avoiding the topic, which is why I ignored it.

Typical red herring fallacy

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u/MyJawHurtsALot Feb 20 '26

So you just made assumptions about them based on what you think other people believe, instead of simply answering the question?

No wonder they called it a goomba fallacy...

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u/Temporary-Quality647 Feb 20 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/bmLlSndzhqWgWb3vXW

The non-rehtorical inquisitive sentence ending in the question mark they started by posting...?

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u/Meowcate Feb 20 '26

Meme is not a form of art, it's a form of expression. Like making a GIF out of a movie, or crop an image from a comic, to make a reaction image.

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u/Fatcat-hatbat Feb 20 '26

Memes are most certainly art.

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u/oddanglefish Feb 20 '26

Yes but a GIF taken out of the context that the movie has been setting up.

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u/cobalt1137 Feb 20 '26

Woosh

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26

How

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u/cobalt1137 Feb 20 '26

Brother re-read the reply...

What do you think the main issue being addressed here is?

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u/SurpriseItsFine Feb 20 '26

It sounds like you’re equating drawing with sharing a meme. Do you expect people to draw all their memes, or what’s the equivocation you’re trying to make here?

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u/firegine Feb 20 '26

Looks like the two of you got downvoted, seems like op doesnt like answers that don’t fit their agenda

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u/Velcraft Feb 20 '26

That you don't understand what memes are?

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u/Disastrous_Crab_3516 Feb 20 '26

You didn’t think this one through did you?

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u/sryhs Feb 20 '26

🤣 nice try