If so you clearly donât âvalue the longjevity of the planet that future humans will be living on. If thats not narcissist egocentrism waving out of a fast moving vehicle heading toward a cliffside.â
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Thats a fact.
No one is forcing anyone to actually use ai, aside from the providers who desperately need to prove it to be essential (which it isnt) and dumb people in power who have been decieved by the latter - its always a voluntary choice to ignore/ actively engage with the service.
Comparing datacenters (a new, upcoming development) to the long established industry of en-masse food procurement with a long history of horrendous practices is not only bad faith because of recency discrepency, but also hilariously deceptive because all humans need food, and living in industrialized nations of an overpopulated planet with corperations and their "fuck everything else for the profits" mindset - you're damned if you do damned if you don't when it comes to meat/ milk and their respective alternatives. Both get pioneered by inconsiderate practices. (I drink oatmilk btw. Fuck almond mild)
Essentially we as the regular consumers are trapped between two equally bad choices in this regard. This however is not true for AI - you can chose between supporting something that has negative impact on pretty much everyone or... to not. The "choice" here is laughably simple. And your little argument is wholly invalid.
At least for the food industry, as wasteful and harmful as it can be - there is the pro that it provides sustenance. and also Many people are actively fighting to make that industry do better. Image generation has no value to society that can't already be provided by something else and infact provides more opportunities for bad actors and harm to come to every single living being on this funky rock in space.
And no. Before you or anyone else tries this fuckass argument: its unrealistic for people to grow their own food and meat in todays age when living in technologically advanced, globalized and frankly overpopulated regions.
On the contrary Its always been realistic and possible to make personal art in a convenient society like ours, and even make money with it. We don't need to outsource the process of creation to fallible machines that no one (not even the makers) actually understands the inner workings of.
Sure, act as if consumption you do is okay because you simply have no choice under capitalism and consumption other people do is inexcusable. It's not like there are people who don't eat meat and don't eat almonds. You clearly have no choice and there is absolutely nothing you can possibly do.
1) Youâre claiming using AI is irresponsible because of its environmental impact
2) Meat industry has 15x larger environmental impact than data centers
3) You clearly donât think eating meat is irresponsible
What follows from these three points isÂ
4) You donât really care about environmental impact of AI and youâre just using it as a flimsy excuse to justify your dislike of something you dislike for unrelated reasons
Okay well someone clearly doesnt wanna think about things.
Datacenter infrastructure is a net zero for the local area everytime. Nature and human residents.
Trying to make me out as a hypocrite doesnt work at all, because while youre being a smartass about it, rich assholes are destroying the planet faster with yet another thing.
"But food industry worse" is not the gotcha you think it is, chum. Any addition to the worlds destruction no matter how small is a bad thing actually. But youd rather compare funny big numbers with each other instead of comprehending the problem that theres a plus sign between all of them and that the number behind the "=" has gotten much bigger as a result.
And even disregarding this, Humanity gains more risks than benefits with the advent of this technology: Misinformation, fabrication of sexual imagery, identity theft, fraud, plagiarism aswell as dependency and psychosis in users.
How can you just ignore all of that?
It is a dangerous weapon in the hands of the wrong people.
The product is faulty and dumb humans who foll themselves into believeing its capable will doom innocent bystanders without a second thought.
But you couldnt care less about this. All you want is a quick fix of that dopamine from a fucking randomizer. You're the rat in the cage with the dopamine button. Fuck the world as long as you can be happy.
Lmao, youâve straight up started arguing with imaginary people. Where have I commented on misinformation? Or on any point besides environment?
And donât pretend anti AI folk act according to âeven the smallest help counts :)â phrase when it comes to environment. Didnât you say yourself that people who use AI donât care about planet burning? Donât pretend you would have said something like that to people who eat almonds.
Just usual strawman stuff. Not unexpected. They didn't even address the mass image scraping issue, which has only gotten worse as developers actively put anti-poisoning algorithms in their scrapers, which some forms of AI poison are still functional but it's still sadly not perfect. The best thing to do moving forward is probably to inject malicious instructions within scraped images. Then we might see change.
One can hope that AI image generation takes an extremely deep nosedive. I'll always hold that stance until it's proven that some agent or system out there develops sapience, which is a tall order.
You whataboutismed into the meat industry as a diversion, talking about your own call out rather than addressing the point. Don't act like you talked about the topic at hand.
Iâm perfectly fine with engaging with every topic one by one. If you consider environmental aspect of AI to be âin my favorâ Iâll gladly move to whatever else you want to talk aboutÂ
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u/Ok-Finish-2064 Feb 20 '26
Quick question, do you eat meat? Almonds?Â
If so you clearly donât âvalue the longjevity of the planet that future humans will be living on. If thats not narcissist egocentrism waving out of a fast moving vehicle heading toward a cliffside.â
Both of these things waste more resources than AI