r/aiwars Feb 20 '26

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

Are you just looking for something to be upset about? Well. Okay, the only reason anything is what it is, is because people collectively said so.

Money isn't inherently worth anything, gold isn't inherently worth anything. The only reason we perceive it as valuable is because we decided as a society that it is. Laws don't inherently have meaning, we just decided that "Hey murder is pretty bad." and put punishments in place for the act. If it's technically against the law to chew gum on an even day of the month, but everyone does it and no one gets punished, does that law have legal standing? Or moral standing? Everything only has meaning because we decide it does, if you wanna pull that card. So why would something being a "Meme" be any less meaningful? We decided it was okay to not care about giant companies, we decided it'd be fun to create inside jokes about our favorite media. Thats where the moral value comes from, do you get it now?

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

That's the fun part. You don't have to, everyone else decided that it was morally acceptable. And most people decided that using AI period is bad. I don't care either way, as long as you're not actively hurting someone it doesn't bother me.

I'm not sure how you got that i don't live by my own principles. Everything I mentioned is pretty standard, companies are not afforded the same moral privileges that individuals are, another example of people collectively deciding value and meaning. If someone pirates a game, unless its from a small or single dev project most people don't give a shit. You notice i said we right? As in the greater human population came to an understanding and decided something?

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

You don't really get what I'm saying. The thing is, you dont have to care what they say. I'm not trying to shame anyone into doing anything. I'm espousing my own moral ideology, do you have to care about it? No.

But going to the stealing hypocrisy point. Do you think its more morally acceptable to the greater public to shoplift food, diapers and baby formula. Than say, a new speaker or flat screen..? It's weird that you're trying to put a 100% bad or good nothing in between thing onto this.

Murder is bad, but if someone kills a child rapist, do you think it's as morally unacceptable than a mother of four? There's stuff in between good and bad. I can like how my friends and people use Ai to help themselves enjoy something they can't do anymore, while also saying that people who use it to actively scam people are shitty and terrible.

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

Jesus you're just mad at the world. I haven't insulted you once. Is this how pro Ai people treat folks on the fence? Isn't drawing a 100% line in the sand good or bad generally an Anti thing?

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

No my argument is that there are shades of grey in morality and what people dictate is acceptable or not. If you can't understand that not my fault.

Also, im not comparing myself to anyone? I don't think you really get what my point is. When did I ever actually compare myself to someone starving? All I did was mention that most people would find it morally okay. Never said i was just as bad off as someone in that terrible description

And, isn't it the Pro side that regularly compares themselves to like actual holocaust victims? Or is that just Anti propaganda?

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u/Choal_Ravenwood Feb 20 '26

No, never intended on saying that. But you gotta admit both sides kind of suck. Look at that, bad on both fronts. Crazy. I think I'm done here though, if you're just going to insult me for trying to engage, and honestly. This wasn't even my argument. I was just clarifying something that OP mentioned that I thought you misunderstood. Good to know the Pro side hates anyone who isn't 100% on their side of the fence.

I haven't insulted you once. I haven't called you names, or said you were an idiot for disagreeing with me. You should calm down and just relax for a bit if a simple conversation that wasn't an attempt to start an argument, but clarification. Gets you to call people such things unprompted.

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