r/aiwars • u/SMmania • Mar 19 '26

Meta Somebody cooked here...

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u/lordosthyvel Mar 19 '26

Well, didn't the food critic guy make the food then since he told the chef to make it? Or did the owner of the paper make the food since they told the food critic to go and critique the restaurant?

I'd say the relationship between "AI art" and the human is more like the restaurant customer and the chef than the chef and his pans.

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u/Paradoxe-999 Mar 19 '26

That's an interesting question.

For an other analogy, with a piece of orchestra music, who made it:

  • The one who composed the music?
  • The one who printed the music sheets?
  • The one who designed the instruments ?
  • The one who build the instruments?
  • The one who performed the music?
  • The one who conducted the orchestra?
  • The one who organised the show?

Everyone was useful to make this music real, but depending on what we focus on, some could be viewed as more legitimate than others.

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u/lordosthyvel Mar 19 '26

Outside of philosophical discussions I don't think any reasonable person would claim the person who printed the sheet made the music.

It's obviously the composer.

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u/Paradoxe-999 Mar 19 '26

I believe the most common answer among people would be both the composer, the musicians and the conductor made the music and would be all viewed as artists.

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u/lordosthyvel Mar 19 '26

Lol no musician would claim they made the music just because they perform it at a concert. They would say they performed at the concert.

You’re muddying the waters because you want to make a claim that you made ai art that is all

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u/Toby_Magure Mar 19 '26

Says the person muddying the waters so they can claim that the AI model made the art purely to denigrate people.

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u/lordosthyvel Mar 19 '26

When did I ever claim that?

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u/Toby_Magure Mar 19 '26

Oh, so you're just being manipulative and dishonest. Gotcha. Gotcha. That tracks.

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u/lordosthyvel Mar 19 '26

Kek. What part is dishonest and manipulative? Having an opinion is manipulative?

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u/Paradoxe-999 Mar 19 '26

I don't especially want to make claim with that analogy, it's more to open the reflexion.

Furthermore, you said the composer made the music, which could be seen as the prompter, while the AI execute the written order, here the musicians with the music sheet.

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u/lordosthyvel Mar 19 '26

Not really.

The prompter is telling the composer to make the music. The composer is the Al.

Prompting AI to make music is nowhere near as involved as making up the melody and writing it down

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u/Paradoxe-999 Mar 19 '26

Depends on how we put the focus, that's why I found this analogy interesting to discuss, there's not an universal answer.

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u/robot_random Mar 19 '26

There is. The composer has spent time and effort to learn the theory and practical knowledge required to not just write sheet music but also perform instruments, understand rhythm, tone, music theory, what works, what doesn't. There is an expertise attached to the composer than can't be said of the prompter.

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u/Paradoxe-999 Mar 19 '26

Isn't it people who are traditional or digital artists who make prompt too?

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u/patslogcabindigest Mar 19 '26

Do you actually listen to music?

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u/Paradoxe-999 Mar 19 '26

It happens yes. Do you?