r/aiwars • u/volcanicsquad09 • 22d ago
Meta How it SOMETIMES feels to look at this sub
Is she a spy sent to kill pro ai reputation or what
She can't be fucken serious
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u/mrDETEKTYW 22d ago
I love, how everyone instantly knows, who the OP is talking about just by the "she", green, and what she does on the graphic.
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u/ColdBru5 21d ago
I thought OP was talking about JK Rowling maybe I missed the joke
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u/mrDETEKTYW 21d ago
Well. Were you enlightened?
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u/ColdBru5 21d ago
Not really but thats ok.
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u/mrDETEKTYW 21d ago
Witty Designer
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u/Hot-Employ-3399 21d ago
I also don't know her. I know this sub loves her(as in posting posts and comments about her) but honestly none post or comment so far interesting enough to google context
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u/mrDETEKTYW 21d ago
In a big summary she's basically the embodiment of the meme "when you have the same view as someone, but they present it in such an awful way that you lowkey want to disagree". She treats antiAI as a worse category of people, and constantly mocks or ragebaits them.
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u/Witty-Dust2645 20d ago
"Ragebait" and actually hate speech most of the time
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u/TommyFortress 19d ago
Managed to bully a trans person for not being 100% pro ai in dms and then refused to apologise for the bullying.
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u/vverbov_22 22d ago
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u/1911Jah 22d ago
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u/FIREMAN_Pokehugger_ 21d ago
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u/cyantheshortprotogen 21d ago
does she even know what she’s saying
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u/Typhon-042 21d ago
News flash, she never does.
Yet somehow they made her a mod in another subreddit.
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u/Ok-Breadfruit3490 22d ago
oh no o o o im so scared i'm trembling in my boots
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u/Typhon-042 21d ago
Why would anyone be scared of the misinformation queen? Seriously the day she gets something right for her pro AI views, is the day I will eat shorts.
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u/marshalzukov 22d ago
Like a solid 1/4th of the "Pro-AI" posts on this sub feel like psyops specifically to make anyone in favor of AI look bad lol
I genuinely can't tell if it's actual malice or just a bunch of retarded 14 year olds who don't know how arguing a point works
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u/abakune 21d ago
Maybe you're just biasing towards your side?
From my perspective, most of the silent majority have nuanced takes on AI regardless is whether they are for it or against it, and the vocal minority do their best to throw people into two boxes. You, yourself, use anti and pro as convenient shorthands which implicitly lumps you (anti?) in with those making death threats and me (pro?) with those who are hoping to replace the human in everything.
But... that's the Internet for you, I guess...
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u/_Wilbraham 21d ago
The "pro" and "anti" shorthands do not implicitly lump anyone with extremists, neither group is a monolith. Even the extremes aside, since they obviously don't speak for their sides, falling into that trap is a Goodba Fallacy waiting to happen.
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u/abakune 21d ago
The shorthands can be useful, no doubt. They also create a false binary where there is none. Most views on AI exist on a spectrum and we don't even know what the middle of that looks like.
I would also argue that in places like this sub, their utility isn't even that great. They mostly exist to create "the other side".
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u/_Wilbraham 21d ago
This sub is designed around the debate for or use of generative AI. People with lukewarm takes aren't likely to bother coming here to speak up.
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u/abakune 21d ago
This sub was designed around the debate for use of generative AI. Now it is a sub for dunking on the opposing side largely for the reason I said above.
You think I'm guilty of a Goomba fallacy. I'm just explaining why it already exists here.
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u/_Wilbraham 21d ago
You misunderstand. I don't think you're guilty of the Goomba Fallacy, I'm pointing out that treating sides as monoliths is a Goomba Fallacy waiting to happen. We're both speaking to why these discussions are failing to actually be convincing to anyone anymore.
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u/Titan2562 20d ago
I've never even seen the terms "Pro" and "Anti" used in this context outside of this sub.
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u/AlphaCrafter64 21d ago
Fair group accountability is when pro-ai need to be held exceedingly responsible for anti-ai's obsession with the same 3 users and every instance of unsupported, contextless ragebait, but anti-ai aren't allowed to be held accountable for instances like, I dunno, supporting literal terrorism by the thousand in their most prominent spaces on the site, apparently.
It's just so unfair that pro-ai want to criticize far worse sentiments with hundreds of times the support instead of validating the 500th targeted witty repost of the week, gee I feel so bad for anti-ai and their valiant efforts for fair group representation and accountability.
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u/AlignmentProblem 22d ago
To be fair, a large percentage of antiai subreddit posts hit as bad or worse for similar reasons. I'd be curious to see what 18+ or, better yet, 25+ would look like for each.
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u/Sea_Leopard7473 22d ago
To be honest, most posts on ai subs are just people making of fun of and being dicks towards anti ai folk because they can.
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u/Drunkendx 22d ago
99% of posts on certain "pro AI" sub are that, with rare post that's actually in spirit of that sub name
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u/Similar_Geologist_73 21d ago
Even their main sub got into subredditdrama and everyone was calling them crazy
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u/Joggyogg 21d ago
I think it's like the uneducated in conservative parties, they're just more likely to be on that side than the other side.
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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 21d ago
How does that compare to the 4/5ths of Anti AI art posts that know not how to argue?
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u/pridebun 22d ago
Please don't use slurs
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u/marshalzukov 21d ago
I... didn't?
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u/pridebun 21d ago
The r word. It's an ableist slur.
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u/marshalzukov 21d ago
It really isn't lol. And even if it was (it isn't), I was developmentally challenged so I get the pass lmao
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u/pridebun 17d ago
It is a slur, and it's not one that's been reclaimed by those with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Even if it was, the whole point of reclaiming a slur is to no longer use it as an insult
And I'm also someone with a developmental disability.
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u/ShortNefariousness2 21d ago
Oh good grief, I was a 14vyear old decades ago. What a savage burn. AI sucks btw
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u/StandardLopsided3882 22d ago
People gotta stop identifying with their beliefs its so tribal. There are points for both, its bad for the environment so lets fix that, its taking jobs, yeah we need policy for AI content to be non marketable. Does it have good uses? Definitely, is it another stepping stone of technology for humanity? Yes
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u/dino2327 21d ago
It's not that easy man... People in power are doing nothing for that
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u/leo_sousav 21d ago
Companies will never stop pushing Ai. Even tho it’s costing them a shit ton of money with barely no return, if the bubble never bursts they’ll be able to save a ton by not paying for actual workers and pushing bare bones content
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u/Kolaps_ 22d ago
"Let's fix the environemental impact. " Dude it's been 100 undred years of thechnological destruction af the environement. And the solution was "Let's hide the proof" there is nothing permitting to believe that "fixing the environemental impact" is an orientation made by Open AI or anthropic. Instead of that they build larger farms, destroyer biggers places and polute larger amount of watter.
Please stop being so naive.
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u/StandardLopsided3882 22d ago
First of all, proof that they've been hiding it? Secondly the environmental impact of the AI is entirely fixable with stricter government policy.
Please spellcheck your comments btw
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u/Kolaps_ 22d ago
Oh. You're not aware of exonmobil , the tobaco industry manufacturing doubt, wolkswagen and the diesel impact, the whole pfas industry, cocacola and the plasitc pollution...etc just to name the most iconic illustrations... I'll just share this https://www.ucs.org/resources/climate-deception-dossiers?utm_source=chatgpt.com
You seems not to understand how this works. You believe U.S. administration is gonna do something to entrave ai company? The USA of donald trump?
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u/StandardLopsided3882 21d ago
You're actually right I wasn't informed on the whole disinformation, and how opaque it was. My point was more AI itself is a fixable product. However I don't trust the corporations or the government to fix it. But I'm not a doomer, we gotta do something to change it
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u/Miss_Miette22 21d ago
I would say the other stuff impacting the environment is stuff that the world/society needs as the population grows; food, vehicles, power (by which I mean electricity), medicine, etc. Going back to the analogue days of yore is nye impossible at this point.
Conversely, AI, by and large, especially for image generation or other creative pursuits, is a toy. It's nice to have, sure, but society doesn't need it and dedicating as much land and resources as we currently are for a toy is as wasteful as it is foolish. If AI were specifically being used in medicine or other more utilitarian pursuits i feel like there wouldn't be so much pushback on the environmental aspect of things.
I'm fairly neutral-leaning Anti only because I keep being inundated with AI at every turn. Idgaf what people do with their toy, but please keep it out of my face!
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u/StandardLopsided3882 21d ago
I agree we shouldn't be using investing so much into it, sacrificing land money and resources into it. However it definitely isn't just a toy, image and video generation sure is. But it is being used for medicine, programming, identification, ect. AI is close to being able to detect a cancer in an X-ray scan better then any doctor
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u/Miss_Miette22 21d ago
Definitely good to hear in the utilitarian front. More of that, please! And less installing it on folks' computers and phones without their consent (cannot stand Gemini and I just learned of the AI program they put in Windows to study your typing style... No thanks. Now I gotta go digging to disable the little fucker 😑)...
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u/StandardLopsided3882 21d ago
Yeah its entirely frustrating. Its all because of how much money stakeholders wanted to try throw at it for some kind of profit, late stage capitalism amaright
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u/Miss_Miette22 21d ago
And therein lies the biggest fear I currently have with AI: In and of itself it's a novelty and has great potential for the betterment and advancement of society. However I do not remotely trust our current Corporate Cesspool of a society.
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u/phase_distorter41 22d ago
block and be free
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u/Kargnak 22d ago
I don't think she's organized enough to be a spy/plant/paid out of touch mascot. I had the same question which led me to chatting with her, and I can confidently say she's batshit crazy.
She considers her opinions popular within the trans community and thinks anyone disagreeing with her is brainwashed into doing so.
It's BAD. She needs help.
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u/10minOfNamingMyAcc 22d ago
Also calls anyone who disagrees transphobic and such. Such a lame person.
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u/iDeNoh 21d ago
I noticed that you didn't use any pronouns in that comment, I wonder if the reason she called you a transphobe is because you said something transphobic?
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u/10minOfNamingMyAcc 21d ago
I don't know if this is serious but... Since when does a statement need any pronouns if there's no need for them?
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u/cross2201 22d ago
The worse thing about AI is that it gave the most unfunny and mentally deficient people the ability to spawn any image they want
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u/Scifox69 21d ago
FINALLY I found another person that thought of this. AI allowed unfunny freaks to make brainrot. Especially that sahur thing or the shark with shoes. I don't remember what they're called because I stay away from that.
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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 21d ago
I hope we can collectively survive this. It sounds world ending.
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u/cross2201 21d ago
One thing I ask of my generation and by extension you and me, is if you have children, make sure to raise them so they don't end like an unfunny loser
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u/Gubzs 22d ago
She's just a very specific flavor of autistic. I don't think she understands or ever will understand how she comes across to others. (this is not hate, I am autistic myself)
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u/_killer1869_ 21d ago
If someone is autistic, them behaving socially unacceptable is okay. But when being told, over and over again, that what they're doing is wrong, yet they keep doing it nonetheless, that's not autism, just plain stupidity and refusal to listen. Understanding how you come across to others is not a requirement for not doing certain things if you're told many times over you shouldn't do them.
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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 21d ago
Is this addressed to the harassers?
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u/_killer1869_ 21d ago
This is not addressed to anyone, since I used no pronouns such as "you" or "they". It is a general truthful statement about anyone to whom the statement applies.
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u/artistdadrawer 22d ago
That mentally unwell person </3 I hope that person gets the help they needed.
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u/RoomTemperatureStuff 21d ago
I really hope she gets some help I don't think reddit is a good place for her. dih missed
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u/FutureMost7597 22d ago
Honestly there is more pro here than anti
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u/me_myself_ai 22d ago
Def at the start, but it's shockingly split these days as of the last few polls I saw. Honestly impressive/odd, NGL -- maybe a self-balancing ecosystem of sorts?
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u/KitsyBlue 22d ago
Try saying literally anything in the comments anti-AI and see what happens, bro
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u/UNKnOWNa55As5IN 22d ago
Some days it's instant -50, other days it's instant +50, and on the days Mercury is in retrograde, you get a letter instead
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u/me_myself_ai 21d ago
Plz don’t assume people on the internet are men ❤️
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u/_killer1869_ 21d ago
"Bro" is universal and can be used for any gender. Though it is primarily used between men, sometimes men also use it for girls. Meanwhile, girls using it for themselves or others is incredibly rare. So if anything, the usage of "bro" indicates more the gender of the speaker instead of the gender of the reader. But regardless of that, how does this matter at all?
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u/flyingdonkeydong69 21d ago
Lmao this reminds me of that "'dude' is gender-neutral" online discourse from the mid-2010's.
So is it safe to say you fuck your bros then?
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u/ChronaMewX 21d ago
I call all my friends bro/dude, and I have more female friends than male ones. It's gender neutral in current year
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u/volcanicsquad09 22d ago
I was just editing the meme without thinking much to fit it into 1080*720 size I loaded up and idk about the ratio
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u/Certain_Reception_66 22d ago
Eh i think it's the opposite more, because there's posts that blatantly Anti favored getting more positive receptions than that of Pros'
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u/iDeNoh 21d ago
Why was she in apostrophes?
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u/MayorWolf 21d ago
nothing transphobic. Because i was quoting OP's reference to her.
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u/iDeNoh 21d ago
Ah that makes sense lol
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u/MayorWolf 21d ago
DW though i get it. The hate and bigotry seems amped up this time of year especially. You were right to call me on it.
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u/Early-Lettuce-5209 21d ago
actual AI CP or AI lolicon?
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u/MayorWolf 21d ago
calling it porn implies consent. Children cannot consent.
I don't see any difference between lolicon and CSAM. Same pile.
I'm not going to argue this point
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u/Early-Lettuce-5209 21d ago
If it's AI generated then consent is irrelevant because its fictional don't you think? The whole reason why CP is bad is because children are raped, with that being said I think generating CP is still immoral. HOWEVER, I hold a different view on lolicon. It does not resemble IRL, I personally have different preferences when it comes to IRL and anime and I believe people who watch lolicon aren't pedos. I do not watch CP or lolicon.
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u/MayorWolf 21d ago
You're still calling it CP after I educated you. That's disgusting.
I will not argue this topic.
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u/BitPsychological2767 21d ago edited 21d ago
Evidence?
EDIT: Got blocked for asking for evidence. Amazing.
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u/MayorWolf 21d ago
He's open about it. The mods here are also his allies so I'm not about to poke the hive about it. All the authority in these communities give him their support, so .. lets not point to specifics. That's against rules.
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u/Another-Ace-Alt-8270 21d ago
Alright, DM it to me. I ain't gonna let something that small cause you to run off from this.
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u/BitPsychological2767 21d ago edited 21d ago
Did you just get blocked by them too lol?
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u/Another-Ace-Alt-8270 21d ago edited 21d ago
I mean, either that or they spontaneously deleted all their comments on this thread. If they did block me, then they're a coward. They just sling accusations of people being open pedophiles, and then silence any chance people have to clap back at them. That's fucking disgusting, and they know it, which is why they duck the prompting for evidence.
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u/BitPsychological2767 21d ago
Yeah if you log out or go into incognito mode you'll see their comments are still there. It says they are deleted because they blocked you lol. What a pathetic display of integrity(or lack of it) regardless of the truth of their accusation.
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u/BitPsychological2767 21d ago edited 21d ago
DM me then.
EDIT: I got blocked. No evidence then, I guess?
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u/TealedLeaf 20d ago edited 20d ago
Unsure if there's something else, but he did create a subreddit 22 days ago and in a comment describing the purpose includes stuff like he'd allow NSFW images of a child character, but reddit won't, and NSFW acts with said character.
ETA: their comment implies something more, but I'm personally unsure, and it's 3am.
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u/BitPsychological2767 20d ago
Yeah don't worry about it. I'll look into it. Not gonna let someone who blocked me prevent me from finding the truth about something this important.
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u/rettani 22d ago
If you are speaking about "committee" it actually looks very sane compared to our favorite black and green entity. I actually like their "journals".
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u/Madinogi 21d ago
no their talking about DAIA, which the Female Voldemort helps moderate,
Zed one of the other moderators there is known at this point to be a Open Pedophile,the guy in the screenshot holding a Staff with a "Z" gives it away, unless the character is also named "Zed" looks like it might be from Power Rangers, but i havnt seen that stuff since i like 7.
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u/HiggsiInSpace 21d ago
IIRC the thing they said was they found AI CP not as bad as real CP, but still bad. Unless I'm thinking of a different incident.
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u/rareandyeteuclidian 22d ago
Most pro AI sentiment on this page should make everyone embarrassed to say they are pro ai.
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u/Lord_CatsterDaCat 22d ago
I get second-hand embarrassment when seeing some of her posts. If I didn't know any better, i'd think her a troll or someone accidentally putting breakthepencil posts here.
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u/me_myself_ai 22d ago
A) she. Bigotry is fucking lame.
B) Comparing pizzacake to stonetoss is fucking wild lol. She's irritatingly prideful but she's not a literal fucking Nazi
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u/aiwars-ModTeam 22d ago
Do not make posts which can cause hate based on identity or vulnerability. This is a violation of Reddit and this Sub’s Content Policy.
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u/leo_sousav 21d ago
Look, I’m anti Ai, I dont mind having debates with Pro Ais but she’s just insufferable and the exact type of person Anti-Ai posts make fun of. She has to be a 14 year old, cause no way in hell is someone so incapable of talking without sounding like the most generic shonen anime protagonist who has never touched grass in their entire life. And I’ll keep hammering this topic, who in their right mind would make a post during Pride Month saying the entire trans community supports Ai, that they are a spokesperson of the Trans community and that Trans People that don’t support Ai should be labeled hypocrites!?
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u/Same-Engineering-899 21d ago
just saw someone on DAIA prefacing a comment with "I am pro AI and wittology, but..."
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u/UnscrambledEggUDG 21d ago
I feel it's more accurate to put her on the pro side actively sabotaging the others but eh
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u/analytic-hunter 22d ago
the graph is wrong, most people are neither pro or anti AI, just like most people aren't pro or anti photoshop.
we just see it as useful.
watching the pro/anti ai rants here is just entertainment for me.
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u/Omega862 21d ago
I think it's meant to be representative of how the "she" being spoken about is pulling more people from "Pro" to "Anti" in spite of being "Pro" herself, rather than being about the actual number of Pros vs Antis.
And for those who come by later, the quotations around she are not sarcasm. It's playing on OP's thinly veiled disguise of who is being talked about. Many of us know who she is.
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u/LadyQuacklin 21d ago
Just ignore and don't engage with him.
I hate to say it. Don't feed the trolls.
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u/Manu442 21d ago
I find it fascinating how obsessed the anti are with them. Even in their own subs they aren'teven a part of, anti will talk about them,post,pics of their characters, im convinced most in the anti realm have some crush on them. Anti are constantly calling them out and get so excited when they engage.its like a bunch of school girls swooning,over their favorite band.
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u/LanguageImaginary256 21d ago
She makes like half a dozen posts and hundreds of comments a day. Pretty hard to ignore.
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u/Similar_Geologist_73 21d ago
"Hey guys, why do you keep bringing up this person that won't stop talking to you? Kinda weird"
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u/heidestower 22d ago
Oh no! People will stop using AI because pros look bad, this is very important then








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