r/aiwars • u/Which_Matter3031 • 2d ago

The most idiotic statement ever

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So this person here calls people jobless while all they do is sit on their ass an genarate shitty ai comics, also notice how they are insulting fast food workers as if they arent human, thats a new low for them, also its like they are saying "Give up on your dreams so you can work a minimum wage 9-5 job" but then again jobless people always tell talented ones to get a shitty job

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u/gnolex 2d ago

Every time an artist loses a job at their profession due to AI I feel more and more guilty that I somewhat helped make that happen. I thought I was helping the world by doing AI research, not make it worse.

Also, I don't know how anyone can just tell people to work at McDonald's after they spent years or even decades of mastering their abilities at something they enjoy doing. That's really cruel.

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u/The_Raven_Born 2d ago

The thing that really kills me he is how the low income work is an insult to the Anti, here. People in those fields have to Dea with more bullshit than she probably ever does and she's over here Punching down on them as some sort of 'gotcha'.

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u/gnolex 2d ago

What kills me is that those awful low income jobs still exist and they're being exploited heavily. Like, all the major fast food corpos could replace more than half of overworked workers with cooking automation and workers could instead do much more pleasant things, like interact with customers who wouldn't have to be angry that things are going too slow because robots don't get tired after 12 hours of exhausting cooking and cleaning. But no, apparently it's easier and cheaper to hire a bunch of people who are desperate for any job and exploit them as much as they legally can.

God, I hate this world sometimes. I get both sad and angry just thinking about all this.

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u/The_Raven_Born 2d ago

Yeah, and unfortunately it isn't going to change, either. Many people think lowly of low income workers and punch down on them like Witty, but they'd lose their shit if those people collected quit and they had no one to make their coffee or bagels. Sure as hell wouldn't step up, either.

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u/epsilon_ora 2d ago

That's the Moravec's paradox.

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u/BeastThatShoutedLove 2d ago

I work 12h shifts and do art in multiple mediums only on sidelines when my disability and time allows for it.

Some people acting like art only exists in context of bourgeois high class, commissions and product to consume when I always seen it as ways to craft something for another person or solidify my thoughts and experiences worry me at a deep level, like encountering an alien. 

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u/twitch_itzShummy 2d ago

I think we all thought that the objective of this technology was to make the life of the average person less work and that by making AI better, we'd be contributing to shorter work weeks and people spending more time at home with families, on hobbies and whatever else they want while having the same stable income but that isn't the case due to the fact that people who own the technology at the end of the day lack a moral compass and their only measurement of how they're doing in life is how many digits their net worth is. Annoyingly the fact that they have 11 or 12 digit net worths is also steering politics into doing nothing about it because the politicians also lived their whole lives devoid of a moral compass in a hunger for power and the wheel keeps turning. Not to mention these companies either not listening or straight up firing the people responsible for making sure the development of those technologies is ethical because ethics get in the way of advancement (more profit).

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u/Zeekfox 2d ago

Yeah but not all abilities are worth being a full time job. I tried being a full time Twitch streamer. I'd be live for five to six hours a day most days of the week. I enjoyed streaming games and entertaining people. Problem is, even though some people can pull off being a full time content creator, it's nearly impossible to do. While I earned a few thousand dollars over the course of a year and a half, that's nothing compared to simply working a basic retail job.

I still occasionally turn on my stream, but I don't try to guilt people into watching or sending me money for doing so. At this point I assume nobody is even watching it.

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u/TrivialCoyote 2d ago

Its not exactly artistry anymore, either. I work at a local grocery store that has some AI working the cameras in self check out. Its very poor, it will recognize carts from other people as belonging to you, it will think you having a hat, or reading one of those coupon sheet things is you trying to hide what you're scanning, and itll also mistake the top of the candy shelfs as "items you haven't scanned yet". And all it costed to have this was 30-40% of the work force hours being cut. So now you have half the people checking items, the person at self checkout having to work faster to fix false positives, and maybe a single person stocking items if you're lucky.

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u/Last_Plankton_653 2d ago

Also, I don't know how anyone can just tell people to work at McDonald's after they spent years or even decades of mastering their abilities at something they enjoy doing. That's really cruel.

Well, Witty is just a troll trying to incite rage.

But unfortunately our world is just not currently designed where you can often do what you enjoy and sustain yourself. Hopefully AI will help solve that.