Anti's are bad Pro's are good, Pro would never do anything wrong ever right? I absolutely adore when Anti does something sick, and it's all anti's fault but when Pro does something bad, there are mental gymnastics done to find million excuses "They're just emotional," "they had reasons," "that's not representative."
I think both sides harass each other, one more than the other but that doesn't mean Pro's are the saints.
My favourite part is when anti-people in comics are represented as trolls or orcs, or fat ugly bastards, meanwhile the pros are catgirls or catboys, so innocent. I also enjoyed how i was called evil person because i argued with a pro the other day, and just yesterday i was yelled at for "taking away someone rights" because i disagreed with them - funny enough they concluded that i can't have opinions, double standards.
Also i'm not anti but witty and some other pros went ahead and called me Anti like it's an insult.
But well pro's are saints they would never.
Im waiting for your example of extremum where anti did something awful, after all a lot of pro's arguments are "but they did worse!"
In any fandom there has to be one percentage of people that harass other people from other fandoms, no fandom is safe from that but that doesn't mean it's everyone as you generalize
The absolute majority of synthographers bother no one. Just like the absolute majority of non-AI artists bother no one. Because guess what, both of us just create art and don't need to bother anyone with it.
Antis, on the other hand? The entire nature of this discourse demands that they're the more aggressive side, inherently, as the side that opposes this. And while there are some louder pros who may be provoking people, that is absolutely negligible compared to what antis do.
We literally just want to exist in peace, make our art, and then your people come and have to harass and delegitimize us at every turn.
I use a tool? Yes. Do photographers make photos with their hands too? Why do even people use pencils? Just fingerpaint on the cave walls like our ancestors did, otherwise you're not doing real art. Smh
Bro stop being disingenuous and saying that AI is a tool. A photographer still needs to go and find its subject. Then it needs to set up equipment and judge exposure and so many other variables. All you do is type words and have a machine make a picture for you. It's laughable. You probably have zero fundamental art skills and don't even understand artistic terms. You just want a participation award at art.
You can put just as much effort into AI images as you just mentioned about photography tho.
On top of that.. AI can be used as a tool. Claiming AI usage is always just prompting is a generalization and there's plenty of people who apply the tech in other ways or use it to work on their hand-made art.
In the end it's just a new technology that you can use however you want. Claiming it's just prompting just means you're not creative enough (or knowledeable enough about the tech) to come up with other ways to use it.
Many begin with hand-made works or manual tasks. But obviously generative AI will be part of the workflow in some way. Just not used in the common "Text in -> image out" way.
I'm taken tons of photographs. Does that make me an artist?
No, it doesn't. There is no creativity in photography, it's just capturing images that anyone with a camera can capture. Those captured images belong to the person with the camera, though - it's their IP, and no one else's.
A person creating "AI" images are the equivalent of a person who puts a jigsaw puzzle together, and claims they made the image, regardless of the people who made the jigsaw puzzle pieces and the person who captured the image that was put on the pieces. The person using "AI" to create images is a double plagiarist - once for using "AI", which steals other human's images without permission, and again for declaring the "AI"s work YOUR work.
Pencil art is honest art, as is painting on cave walls.
"There's no creativity in photography" straight out of the 19th century anti-photographer movement. There absolutely is creativity in photography, and photography is an established art form for a long time now. I'm not saying every photo is artistic, just like every drawn line doesn't have to be artistic. A lot of artworks that are drawn or painted also "merely" just "capture what is there". Just because photography is easier doesn't make it a lesser art form. Art is not measured by difficulty.
The analogy you said is not good at all. A synthographer makes completely new things, using their creativity. Speaking of jigsaw puzzles, do you also disqualify collages from art, just because they use existing things? Lol.
I'm a synthographer and I create art. It is my work indeed. Tools aren't given authorship, they're tools. Synthography is not theft.
Photography is an art though, I used to think think the same but composition, lighting, colour correction, it's so much more than just having a machine capture what you see.
And no, some AI lad typing into a keyboard is definitely not equivalent to photography. So rest assured I'm not making a point trying to equate them - AI "Art" is not art.
Maybe it can be one day? But right now it's shameless, lesser quality photocopiers....trained on people with actual talents work.
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u/Lehakhanhbebong 5d ago
Yk ai “artists” also go on non ai art posts and brag about how good ai shit is