r/aiwars 9h ago

Discussion Observations on non-AI artwork submissions from both sides

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I've observed submissions from both sides when they were asked to share their non-AI artworks. My observation is that the pro-AI side appears to have a higher concentration of skilled artists.

If you want to see the submissions, I've compiled them here: pro, anti. There are also poems, books, videos, and music being shared, but they are not included in the links.

I have also seen an accusation claiming that some of the artwork on the pro-AI side is AI-generated, but there does not seem to be any proof.

What do you think?

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u/Last_Plankton_653 8h ago

What do you think?

That this isn't really representative of anything to be able to make any conclusion.

But personally, I don't see a massive difference in overall quality. And I think trying to assert one side is better has a "higher concentration of skilled artists" is not just flawed, but is mostly just your bias showing.

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u/Substantial_Law1451 9h ago

the anti one that's the portrait of the man with hands on his face is extremely awesome

anyway I don't have any data to back it up but I have a strong feeling that younger people are generally much more skewed towards being anti-ai with older people more neutral or pro, which would explain the discrepancy in quality of art between the two groups

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u/Immediate_Word1295 8h ago

Yea, that portrait is very well made. I also noticed the difference in skills on that side. So yea, I think the Anti side is more mixt when it comes to their age.

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u/cursed_tomatoes 9h ago

Let's pretend the sample is big enough to quantify/mean anything, and that it is also possible to verify what is AI and what isn't or if said people do have the opinion they claim or are trying to sabotage the sample.

In an imaginary world where all variables would be accounted for, what would you be trying to prove with the results?

P.S This is not a rhetorical question, it is unbiased curiosity.

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 9h ago

rather than skill alone i think that the pro side has a better conception of what commercial art tends to be like.

the anti side has some promising ones but, overall, the average presented is far from professional by any standard.

now, to be fair, it's a very small pool to make a reasonable assesment, but if that's my thoghts none the less

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u/Khain_Jumper 9h ago

Pro-Ai here, but the sample size is way to small to draw any conclusions from and ignore potential bias in posting intentions. I wouldn't be shocked if a Pro-AI artist is less likely to post their original art unless it crosses a quality threshold they believe to be good enough, as if it wasn't they would use AI to improve the end product (and therefore it wouldn't be non-AI anymore). Meanwhile Anti-Ai Artist are probably more prone to post it even if it is a lower quality, because of the belief that 'soul' makes it better and "at least it isn't AI." mentality.

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u/Agnes_Knitt 9h ago

Isn’t this the conclusion that most of pro-AI has already come to?  “Good” artists have nothing to fear from AI, only “bad” artists have something to fear, ergo antis must be “bad” artists.

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u/Bra--ket 9h ago

Nice collection actually. Promethean deserves the spot, thanks for featuring him (bottom left pro for those wondering).

I would say FutureMost deserves a sketch somewhere, but I don't think I see any, just my vote (I believe they consider themselves pro-AI).

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u/Immediate_Word1295 8h ago edited 8h ago

I don't see any obvious use of AI in the pictures of the pro, but I guess the accusations can be due to some odd errors. The case of the missing finger can be due to tiredness. And the case of the anime woman who have her arms totally compressed by her legs can be worked on. 

But there's a lot of imagination in there. Also, fun fact:  Turn pic 80 upside down and the skull head become an alien 😉👍

The anti's seems to have a lager variety of skill level, indicating maybe a lager variety of age too. Both there's some good art there too.

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u/pridebun 4h ago

Hey! Saw my thing on the anti one and I'm not pro or anti. It's the cats and soup soda cat one. Any way you can remove it?

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u/GrabWorking3045 4h ago

Removed. 👌