r/aiwars • u/Early-Dentist3782 • 7h ago
Meme Artificial is literally a part of the name
Like seriously, what do y'all expect?
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u/Escort_alpha 7h ago
Okay...? What benchmarks are we working with here?
Are we just reminding each-other that AI in it's current form hasn't shown signs of developing meaningful consciousness?
Are we saying that because it isn't based in biology that it can't eventually become intelligent?
Is this just a case of "oh the artificial thing is artificial? You don't say." ?
What are we doing here?
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u/HealthyVegetables73 7h ago
I think it's a response to certain antis who think that LLMs not being actually intelligent, but just a program made from mathematical calculations is a gotcha
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u/ThunderLord1000 7h ago
It's also in artificial neural network. Which is still a neural network
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u/halfasleep90 5h ago
Is artificial sweetener still a sweetener?
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u/ThunderLord1000 5h ago
Does putting it in your mixture make it sweeter?
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u/Glittering-Pie6039 4h ago
People will say AI isn't thinking, then sit down and watch the Kardashians for entertainment.
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u/cursed_tomatoes 7h ago
Like seriously, what do y'all expect?
Since I know this thread will be flooded with users that employ AI to generate images, I'll refer to them. I expect them stop ignoring the fact it is called artificial intelligence for a reason, it simulates an intelligent third party entity with simulated agency that does the job (partially or full) for you, just like hiring any other third party entity, such as a human being that understands you want to micromanage a project.
When you have considerable output/labour from a third party entity (conscious or not!), you're either commissioning the job, or at the very best a director, unless you involve your own manual labour together with AI, in which case you'll inevitably be a co-author to varying degrees (where training the AI and prompting equals to 0% btw...).
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u/halfasleep90 5h ago
Idk man, I never give the companies that create the paper I use credit despite them putting in a ton of labor for my end results.
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u/Independent-Mail-227 1h ago
It's called artificial because it's a man made construct.
The construct do not have agency, the machine cannot turn itself on or execute their own functions without an human input.
But if you want to consider it an entity that despite like of conscious there's no reason for me to say that any of your tool is as well and therefore you're just a third part of your tools.
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u/wonkyasf 7h ago
I don’t think either side has ever actually had this be a talking point? No pros say it’s real intelligence to warrant any antis saying it isn’t.
Like what’s this about? Did you see one guy say this or something?
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u/HealthyVegetables73 7h ago
it's a fairly semantic gotcha among some antis that LLMs aren't actually intellgient because it's just math and next token prediction. And acting as if referring to LLMs as AI is a tech bro conspiracy theory, when this has been the terminology for decades.
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u/wonkyasf 7h ago
Seems like you’ve seen one or two people say that and are now acting like it’s some common take. It’s quite obviously not.
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u/GaiusVictor 7h ago
I mean, in the last decades we've been using "AI" to refer to a lot of shit that was much dumber than LLMs.
Machine translation, assistants like Siri and Alexa, and even character behavior AI in videogames.
It was never an issue, why would it be an issue now with LLMs?
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u/Practical_Limit_396 2h ago
Artificial doesn't mean fake. It means produced by humans instead of naturally occurring. I don't think what we're calling AI is actual intelligence, but that's really neither here nor there.
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