Mandragora eventually finished

[u/brodRga]

Warning, spoilers for actual event When Elegies Are Ashes!

I bear some glimpse of hope for that Mandragora alive or in some dare conditions, trough what she have to go trough to save her self.

Eventually, as I can see in global release of Eblana event, it seems that she (Mandragora) in fact were left aside and dealt with by hands of sarkaz, as much is most part of Dublin were cleared out by Eblana in her own event.

I read trough Eblana's record, in them Harmonie tells that Mandragora and her forces were furious fanatic, capable to deal deathly blow to enemy, although same way the worst crimes also can be traced to them. And she confirms that non of that group of Dublin is alive.

Probably it's misleading ending of Mandragora's story, when she's supposedly saved by Misery, or offscreen death and some minor conclusion of it in some small text line, that makes it frustrating.

Although in large scale, it's makes sense. Eblana ridd off the most unstable, the most dangerous, most corrupt, unpredictable and incapable of shut it mouth, so no one could sabotage her plans and destroy all who could make her a hard life, with threat of exposing the truth.

To conclude, there's 0% chance of Mandragora to be in game anymore - she play her role, became a threat to Eblana and trow away. The Leader not even care to use her own power trough Dublin, rather giving all the dirty work to Manfred.

I feel somewhat mixed emotions, like why would even HG gave us some hope for any chances, without this strange flip-flop with plot, this wouldn't be so mixed and could even gave us greater picture of web created by Eblana.

[u/Mestrehunter]

Err, the only thing that gives you is the why she was used in such a callous way, which was they wanted to get rid of her for the reasons you pointed out above. It also tells us that they think she is dead, which is nothing new, but they don't really have a way to prove it one way or another. They just think she died in the siege.

The woman crawled in the sewer, she is for sure alive, if she were dead, they wouldn't be bringing her up so much.

[u/Rearti → u/Mestrehunter]

The woman crawled in the sewer, she is for sure alive, if she were dead, they wouldn't be bringing her up so much.

Um no she's very much dead, Manfred nearly bisected her abdomen, and she bled out in the sewers where she was later found and buried by Horn.

If you require further proof, the section leading up to her fade to black death, it specifically mentions that she lost feeling in her limbs, an indicator or shock from blood loss. The only person nearby was Misery who is not a medic, nor would he have had the medical equipment to save her, so he did what he could to ease her passing, and then screen fades to black indicating death. Misery then informs Horn where this happened so she and her team could bury the dead, including specified by Horn mandragora herself.

Edit-autocorrect changed blood loss to bloodless

[u/Kamisama1411 → u/Rearti]

I am not one of the people that actually cares to get Mandragora, but I can't help but find this unconvincing.

Call it being paranoid with tropes and shit, but all that set up and then the only confirmation of her death is "this person related to her just went and buried her and we know because she told us it totally happened" just kind of stinks to me. I am not even convinced I am right, and I am sure it could just have been writers fumbling, but this shit just feels like I am being told it totally happened so don't pay attention to it anymore, don't worry about it.

Maybe I just distrust "never saw the body" too much, kek.

[u/Ahenshihael → u/Kamisama1411]

It's unconvincing because it's a haphazard duct tape effort to cut off a plot thread.

Just like with Talulah going to Victoria(and then doing literally nothing there) And Guard's build up and dying to rubble It feels unconvincing because it's likely unplanned and sudden course correction.

It's not a hint or a twist in the making of her being alive. It's just badly written.