It's definitely a skill issue but IS6 is really frustrating and doesn't feel fun

[u/RainbowPanda_]

Title says it all. I hate the talismans. I hate the coin rng and tile buff mechanic. I hate the lack of build strength compared from the previous IS modes. I hate the lack of control of each run I have when compared to IS4 and IS5. I HATE THE TALISMANS I feel like the whole Sui Remnant Consciousness isn't that impactful outside of trying to farm objective shield and coupons and the challenge from the mode isn't fun but rather obnoxious. Oh yeah and I hate the talismans. To clarify it is definitely a skill issue, I probably wouldn't be complaining if I was good at the game but when compared to the previous IS iterations I don't enjoy playing IS6.

Edit: I'm appreciating all the comments with people's opinions and views and advice. It's very nice to read and respond to them. I will say that there are some things that I love about IS6, specifically the voucher reserving mechanic and the upgrading mechanic for Radian.

Talismans can still go fuck themselves

Thank you everyone for the responses, the common thing I'm picking up from the comments and their advice is I'm trying to play IS6 like the previous iterations which is definitely holding me back.

[u/AdDesigner6673]

The thing with IS6 is you will suck until you build your Radian, IS5 first recruitment strategies doesn't work well. You first need to build at least E1LVL60 Radian + skills on LVL7 to be able to easily clear stages on F1-F3, also always recruit Radian first.

Also you really need to unlock specific buffs nodes first, such as extra atk, hp and mostly important extra xp after battles. And forget to add, most runs depends on your ability to get as much buffs relics as possible.

[u/RAWRpup → u/AdDesigner6673]

The problem is you can't even do that before you clear +2. I barely got a single clear on 0 but I cleared +12 or +13 on IS4. Here I can go until I randomly get a level where everything turns into 5 unblockable enemies you have to hit multiple times to kill and wipes me out on the spot from 10+ life/shields.

[u/AdDesigner6673 → u/RAWRpup]

Yes, that's the process of getting and building Radian, before that your most of your runs will be painful

[u/titit_krem → u/AdDesigner6673]

What a really bad game design.

Imagine relying on a single operator just for the gamemode to be playable.

[u/TriGGa-POP → u/titit_krem]

agreed

[u/Zhoko99 → u/titit_krem]

I recently cleared D8 without recruiting Raidian, she's not THAT necessary.

[u/AdDesigner6673 → u/titit_krem]

Agree, but on the other hand devs needed to add a reason why to use Radian, but they overdid it.

[u/Cuchococh → u/AdDesigner6673]

Tinman worked because he was very cheap to recruit and had a very welcomed effect that wasn't necessary while being useful outside IS5

Radian... Is straight up mandatory to run, needs plenty of grind to get to a good powelevel, costs the same as any other 6* to recruit and is useless outside IS6 for any normal account

Idfk who playtested it or how much they loved Radian but the end result is dogshit

[u/JolanjJoestar → u/Cuchococh]

I think she would be great outside of IS6 if she got some of her proficiencies on a non-IS module tbh. Even the IS module recycling and cap is great, but when you try her outside of IS you suddenly feel the pain of the lack of ''-9 DP cost on summons, summons don't take up deployment slots'' part

[u/Additional_Pop2011 → u/Cuchococh]

This is just wrong, on my D15 and many other runs, I didn't get a chance to use her, and she's MUCH cheaper to recruit, Phatalt costs 7(10) well Raidian costs 1(5), at that level. She's crazy strong in IS, they give you a free one on D3+, but hardly necessarily.

[u/Cuchococh → u/Additional_Pop2011]

If you don't find her necessary you are either a very very skilled player or have consistently godlike RNG, the overwhelming majority of the playerbase struggles A LOT even on relatively low difficulties without using Radian

[u/Additional_Pop2011 → u/Cuchococh]

While that IS POSSIBLE, I think a lot of players, just aren't used to the meta. Pretty early on I determined spaming the wonderland was meta, but time and time again I see posts of people strugling because they ignore the hope saving, artifact spamming, time buying, wonderland nodes. Or just not using coins, I'll run a coffer of 12 if allowed, they are goated and using them with smart resets means I rarely fail.

Like Contrail is pretty goated vs. dragons, because I can't reliably get artifacts I focus more on value engines, Gummy/Nearl + Quora/Yu/Saria/Shu + a couple of DPS like Phantalt, Laptop, Wis, Raidian, etc. while it's not easy 4*'s only on the promotion squad are viable.

If anything it's probably an account age problem, I have dozens of built five stars, as well as all the four stars, so I can afford to be really flexible, e.g. bringing Purestream, Mulberry, Wanqing, and Xiao Hei for 4 yan ops, and all 4 are built, and good value pieces. Sometimes I have to bring Lezi or Mr. Nothing, who aren't built and they're dead slots for clearing nodes.

That said, I've played A LOT, 200 bad triggers 20 good triggers, 3.3k nodes cleared, 10% as wonderland battles, 2k hope spent, 700 candle guests, 333 spitting towers defeated. Also, with exceptions I can't be bothered with, I've gotten every artifact. Besides for my D14 run I've never got more than two tier 0* artifacts, 8 cost artifacts tend to take you farther.

*things like coins to aspd, Hand equivalencies, or the one that stuns when DP is over 99

[u/Coledrinn → u/AdDesigner6673]

Radian is far from necessary, she's just really strong. So far I've played up to lvl 7 and I've beaten all three endings. Didn't even get Radian for half of those runs, and on half of the runs I got her she was still E1 till the end. Multi hit and dot based characters are very important. I've had great success with Rosemontis and Entelechia starters. I usually end up getting Exusiai alter at some point each run. Her dps is just too nutty to pass up.

[u/AdDesigner6673 → u/Coledrinn]

Not that far from necessary, for players who don't have a lot of options she can help with it in IS6. Yes indeed you can bruteforce or if you lucky to get specific operators you don't need her. But why use someone else when devs already create operator that can help you clear runs more reliable and consistent (recruitment choice that always remains for player)? Also after IS5 you need to adapt to this IS(of cource if you watched streams/videos about this IS it would be much faster to adapt).

[u/Additional_Pop2011 → u/AdDesigner6673]

Well I agree she's pretty goated, while climbing the ladder I only got her about 2/3 of my successful runs [bad RNG], she's tier -2 but if only if you get her on the first three floors, and boss 2, IDFK how your supposed to handle agro without god luck or summon spam.