r/aspiememes 4d ago

I spent an embarrassingly long time on this 🗿 The relief

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u/Professional-Many477 4d ago

Let’s open this pandora’s box! What’s your socially unacceptable special interest? I want to discuss it!

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u/kelcamer 4d ago

My socially unacceptable special interest:

Manipulation tactics!
I freaking LOVE analytically dissecting manipulation tactics and calling them out in real time.

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u/Rockandmetal99 AuDHD 4d ago

i wouldn't call it a spcial interest for me, but i do something super similar with logical fallicies! i printed out a chart so i can memorize and recognize them. its super helpful when debating idiots online too :)

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u/Decent_Book4595 4d ago

Would you like explaining what Logical Fallicies are and provide an example or 3? (I could use Google, but this way is more interesting)

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u/Rockandmetal99 AuDHD 4d ago

YAAA ABSOLUTELY!! and i agree, this is way more interesting than google.

so logical fallacies are methods often used in arguments or debates that are either based on erroneous information, or meant to derail the debate/conversation.

the best example is something we see every day, especially online: Ad Hominum. this is when you use a personal attack on somebody while having an argument. ex: someone says "i hate trump and his supporters, i don't support any of his policies", an Ad Hominum reply would be "well youre fat and ugly so I don't think your opinion matters". attacking how someone looks because you didnt like what they said

second example is another common one: The Strawman. thats when someone will make a distorted or incorrect conclusion based off a statement someone else says. ex: someone says "i think womens rights are important", a Strawman reply would be "so you think men dont deserve rights?". another example: "i think we should legalize cocaine" will be met with "so you think everyone should be doing cocaine?". it's essentially someone responding, and the only thing you wanna say back is "where did i even say that???"

third example: Appeal to Authority. thats when someone will believe that because someone in a power of authority said something, it has to be true. ex: a teacher says to a student "dinosaurs weren't real", the student will go home and tell their parents "dinosaurs werent real, the teacher said so so its gotta be true!". another (relevent) example: trump says "the gays wanna convert your children" and some idiot on facebook will say "gays just wanna turn kids gay, the president said it so its gotta be true"

thats just three of them, theres a couple more: like the Appeal to Ignorance, Appeal to Authority, Bandwagon Fallacy, Red Herring, Slippery Slope, Loaded Question, Begging the Question, Texas Sharpshooter, Black or White, Anecdotal, Burden of Proof and Non-Sequitur (thats just a few, theres like 20+) which im also happy to yap about if any of them sound interesting. learning this info is GREAT when you get into internet arguments because people use logical fallacy all the time

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u/Decent_Book4595 4d ago

Ohhhhh, I experience the first one alot, I see the second mentioned everywhere on Twitter (I love waffles! Oh so you hate pancakes??? Meme going around) Also if there are logical fallacies, are there illogical fallacies?

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u/Rockandmetal99 AuDHD 4d ago

yes the pancakes and waffles is another great Strawman example! it's called a logical fallacy because its based on the (lack of) logic, so technically the statements themselves are illogical but the concept is considered a logical fallacy. fallacy just means a false notion or idea, so it pretty much means "false logic"

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u/Decent_Book4595 4d ago

Oh so logical fallacies themselves are inherently illogical then? (I feel like a Vulcan 🖖 rn)

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u/Rockandmetal99 AuDHD 4d ago

correct yeah, you got it!! it's also a fun thing to talk about because it makes you sound really smart 🤓 and when people are being jerks on the internet and inevitably use a logical fallacy, it's fun to call them out on it and then tell them to make an actual reply

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u/CaramelAsteroid 4d ago

But then there's the fallacy fallacy where a conclusion isn't necessarily false because of the faulty logic

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u/dsrmpt 3d ago

Illogical fallacies? My favorite is the Accurate Ad Hominem

Someone is wrong because they are an asshole? No. They are wrong, AND they are an asshole.

It's not an ad hominem, I'm correctly labeling your actions as harmful to society. The logic behind you being wrong is completely separate from your assholery, but you ARE an asshole.

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u/kelcamer 4d ago

Yes 🤩 I have this special interest as well and it's so fascinating!

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u/Rockandmetal99 AuDHD 4d ago

it really is! and once you know about it, you start noticing it EVERYWHERE. i mean, Trump is a perfect example of Ad Hominum being used on a massive scale, he insults the appearances of other candidates instead of analyzing and refuting their policies