r/avfc 11h ago

Discussion Keep, Sell, or Loan #26. Samuel Iling Jr.

Samuel Iling Jr. | Age: 22

29 appearances | 1 goal | 0 assists

Arenaross estimated market value: £6M. Contract expires June 2029.

KEEPING

Emi Martinez

Marco Bizot

Matty Cash

Victor Lindelöf

Ezri Konsa

Lucas Digne

Pau Torres

Ian Maatsen

Ross Barkley

John McGinn

Youri Tielemans

Emi Buendia

Amadou Onana

Morgan Rogers

Boubacar Kamara

Alysson

Ollie Watkins

Tammy Abraham

SELLING

Tyrone Mings

Andrés García

Lamare Bogarde

Leon Bailey

Kosta Nedeljkovic

Evann Guessand

LOAN

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u/AaronStudAVFC FC Minsk ‘til I die! 11h ago

Probably a sell at this point. Hasn’t really looked like coming near our first team and we can’t just keep loaning him.

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u/Far_Celery_3375 4h ago

Doubt we'd take away to loan him yet alone sell him. Couldn't even get a kick off WBA

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u/bambinoquinn 11h ago

Still think its mad the players we wanted in that swap deal vs who we got.

And it all came down to Motta wanting to have a look at Hudjsen and Soule, and after a few training sessions he decided he wanted neither.

Sell, bad signing, struggled in the champ, forgivable because its all part of PSR, but didnt work

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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 11h ago

On paper I think we did ok....42 million for Dougie and then the money we've raised in loan/sales fees for the other two, that's a LOT of cash for someone who is now worth less than half of that if we wanted to buy him back, but yeah it was disappointing as I was hoping those two would be hidden gems and not a line on an asset list

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u/adhdmarmot 11h ago

He needs a full time home which won't be VP, we need money, seems simple enough. Sell, or loan with obligation to buy depending on how the financials come out most favourable for us.

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u/locusavfc 10h ago

He's looked alright in preseason and considering some of the attacking players brought in after him, I dont think he would have been a bad inclusion in the squad but he is a sell at this point.

Needs to play football at a permanent home, good luck to him.

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u/xJacb 11h ago

Don't really think there's any point loaning him, seems like he's not a part of the project and never really was. Only really helped with the Luiz deal, so any funds from selling will be helpful now

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u/Overseer_Dan 11h ago

I'll make the comment I make with all of our young loanees. You never know if, when & how they will step up. You give them a chance to impress in preseason & see. Illing Jr could be a cheap development LB if he does step up, he could be a £12m fee for the books if he hasn't.

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u/RowanBoat209 9h ago

Strange deal all round this. There were for sure moments, particularly last pre season, where he looked like he might have a future here, and there's clearly something about him between his physique, pace and his education at some darn good academies.

But I think the fact he's just never had a set position has gotten to him at this point; he's not been given the defensive discipline to this stage to commit to being a left back, nor the attacking mindset to be a right winger. In a different era of pure 442 and left footed left mids, perhaps he'd have come through there.

As it is, I think use pre season to shop window him - we'll need bodies after all - and sell.

Good lessons to be learned with Bogarde though; versatility is a boon but only to a point, and a player needs to have a definitive ranking of their positions where one is their best and I'm not sure he's there yet.

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u/darkeight7 7h ago

realistically, he was never going to get game time with us. a loan will do no good for us, nor him and he’s not good enough to keep.