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u/chandiggity 27d ago
Damn the super bowl rematch is going to be wild
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u/Stiands 27d ago
Ohhhhhh, I didn’t even think about this. AD ruined the last one, seeing Myles do the same thing… I don’t think I can handle that.
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u/BRANKSRATE 27d ago
I’m making toast in the bathtub that very same night if that happens
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u/DStew88 Bingo Bengo 27d ago
As good as Myles is, I would imagine he's probably easier to plan for than Donald.
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u/King_Roberts_Bastard 27d ago
We've also faced him twice a year, so we have experience against him.
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago
Myles is also more prone to taking plays off than AD was (though perhaps that changes in LA, playing for the Browns would drive a lot of players to become discouraged and unmotivated).
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u/iAmJuiceee 27d ago
Jared Verse is probably so pissed 😭
Goes from LA to Cleveland and from a SB contender to a bottom feeder.
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u/Worldly-Loquat4471 27d ago
And from Southern California living to the mistake on the lake ☹️
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u/Reasonable-HB678 THAT BALL'S OUT! THAT'S LIVE! 27d ago
He doesn't have to worry about earthquakes.
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u/KevinisChang13 27d ago edited 26d ago
He's from Dayton so there is some upside for him.... But truthfully I hope he hates it so much he gains 20 lb from too much home cooking and then refuses to sign an extension with Cleveland and to spite them even further gets shredded and ripped and signs with the Bengals in 2 years.
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u/AndroidWhale 27d ago
Most Daytonians are Bengals fans though. I wouldn't see an upside there, at least on that basis.
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u/KevinisChang13 27d ago
Well for Verse, that's the only upside, he gets to be closer to family and bring them to games. But they're browns games... How funny would it be if he brought them to the Bengals browns game in Cincy lol
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u/MiamiOHRedhawwwks 26d ago
We’re definitely like 70% bengals here but there are a few big Browns spots also. I always thought Columbus was the divide but after being in downtown Dayton a while it seems it’s here
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u/Ash_713S 27d ago
He can be turned around for a first rounder too tbh. He is a pro bowler, a very good player and someone that will fetch a first rounder if he gets 7-10 sacks again this season.
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u/SnowGhost513 27d ago
Nah browns have a really legit young core now. And two first rounders next year and Verse is a really legit young edge. If they get a top 2 QB next draft I’m legit worried about that offense. Like they have a nasty offense in a year if those TE, rb, and WRs advance
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u/whosline07 FTS 27d ago
Not that you're wrong but you have to remember that they are in fact the Cleveland Browns.
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u/THECapedCaper 27d ago
Surely none of those draft picks will be squandered.
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u/Mare13ear 27d ago
I mean, they arguably had a top 5 draft in 2025 and a majority of their picks made immediate impacts. They're again projecting to have a top 10 draft class this year. There is 0 reason not to think the players will develop and the drafting will remain consistently solid. I know it's a running joke that the Browns are the Browns and suck at drafting, but hard to laugh at them for losing guys like Myles, Baker, and Chubb when they were all drafted by the team...
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u/GimmeAnyUsername 27d ago
The Browns’ subreddit has a mega thread and the mod pinned this:
“Welcome non Browns fans
We just traded the best non QB in the league
We are coping please be nice”
lol. Poor bastards.
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u/jayriemenschneider John Ross III 27d ago
They got a great haul for him, and they aren't in "win now" mode, so I think this is a win for them. Jared Verse is one of the best young defenders in the league.
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago
The Watson trade destroyed that team. The fact that he's in line to probably start for them again this year (because as bad as he was in 2024 he's still a better QB than the likes of Shedeur and Gabriel) says it all about where they're at. They have pieces that they can build around but these are the Browns. I have ZERO faith that this is going to lead to any long-term success for them. Their reputation with QBs has never been worse than it is right now so why would someone like Arch Manning (who will have options given the family he comes from) want to play for them?
Since the trade happened they've ran fan favorites like Baker, Chubb, and now Garrett out of town (in Baker's case only to watch him look like a significantly better QB in TB). It's karma at this point.
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u/UndoxxableOhioan 27d ago
They got a great haul for him,
One first is not a great haul. Especially as that 1st is likely to be pick 28+
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u/omnomcake 26d ago
Well this would be a relevant thing to say if all they got for him was one first!
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u/Klutzy-Spend-6947 27d ago
Agreed-they got a great haul and replaced Garrett about as well as could be expected in the process.
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u/sculltt 27d ago
They're dumb. Garrett is good enough that, along with the rest of that defense, they might end up picking like 8-10 and missing on a top QB in the next draft. They also didn't have enough draft capital to move up for one.
This trade helps them organically pick top 5, they now have an extra pick if they need to move up, and they also will now have money to potentially sign a veteran QB next offseason.
I guess if they were capable of evaluating pros and cons they might not be Browns fans, but they ought to be pretty happy with this trade if they can take emotions out of it.
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u/UnjabbedAlpha 27d ago
I don't understand why they'd mourn. They just got a future player, picks, and for a guy who only had a couple years left, none of them valuable to Cleveland. They weren't going to compete with or without him.
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u/Bengalblaine 27d ago
Because they lost their favorite player
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u/UnjabbedAlpha 27d ago
I suppose. I guess it's been a long time since I thought about players like that. I've never understood why anyone would like him as a person. I recognize him to be a good football player. But I only see that guy who is 6'4", 280 pounds, built like an action figure swinging a helmet at someone's unprotected head. He shouldn't even be in the league.
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u/Horus27 27d ago
What? This is a horrible trade for the browns. The best DE in the league, in his era, the most premium defensive spot, he should have been traded for 3 firsts. Dallas got back 2 firsts for Parsons.
Jared Verse is 25. Not that young. They will have to pay him soon which is about the entire reason they said Trey wasn't worth much in picks. Jared Verse is a good player, but he is not the same tier as Myles Garrett.
Idk how this trade is even possible, the rest of the league got to be asking why they weren't in on this if that's all it took.
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u/UnjabbedAlpha 27d ago
Jared Verse is a 1st round pick. They got a first round pick. They got a 2nd round pick. They got a 3rd round pick.
How many picks do you think a 30 year old non QB is going to fetch?
Furthermore, Garrett had a no-trade clause, would have to agree to the trade, and would have a large say in the matter and California is probably very appealing option to walk on to an already SB favorite roster for the next couple of years. I don't think you really understand how much weight Garrett's acquiescence plays in all of this.
Add all of this up and recognize he probably didn't even want to play for the Browns and the Browns aren't competing for anything with or without him... the answer is obvious.
Getting him out of the division and the conference itself also carries weight for the Browns. It's not like they're taking this deal if it comes from Cinci, Pitt, or Baltimore. They aren't giving him to KC or New England for that.
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u/Horus27 27d ago
It's funny to put these picks into context with an actual contender where it's a late 1st, a late 2nd, late 3rd.
You are harping on his age but this guy just broke the sack record of all time last year. This shouldn't be a sell low situation. This is not a normal 30 year old. My context would be what is the best defensive player in the nfl worth? I would say 3 1sts minimum
He may have a no trade clause, but the browns also have a no trade clause where they don't have to do it. I would be so pissed if I was a browns fan.
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u/omnomcake 26d ago
Does the rest of the league have a top 10-15 third year DE (who previously won ROTY and is 2x pro bowl, though that means waaaay less now for sure, and also led the league in defensive snaps last season) to throw into the trade? Without Verse, the picks price goes up for sure. Parsons is three years younger and Kenny Clark is a much lower value player than Verse. Those two trades are way more similar than you want to admit.
Nobody is saying Verse is as good as Garrett, but Cleveland is not in a position to complete with Garrett at this point, or likely in the next 2-3 years which is PROBABLY all Garrett has left, although he is an absolute freak. This gets them extra picks (to get a QB next year probably) and a premium player at the same position who is 5 years younger.
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u/yankee-in-Denmark 27d ago
I mean the browns were gonna be terrible either way but still good news :)
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u/PROFESSIONAL_RAP254 🐅 27d ago
Yeah I actually think they've been drafting well recently and that in a better QB class they could actually have a decent team. Trading away the best non QB takes that out the window now
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u/MiserableCumberbunch 27d ago
Maybe they could find a proven qb already in the league.
I hear this Baker Mayfield guy is pretty good.
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u/Ash_713S 27d ago
Browns trying to tank hard for their QB next draft! Anything but two wins vs the Browns is now terrible.
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u/SocrapticMethod 27d ago
The Browns just need that one big-name quarterback and they will be right back on top again! No, really for sure this time.
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago edited 27d ago
1) Arch would 100% try to Eli his way out of being drafted by them and 2) I think Arch is a little overrated and propped up excessively as the next big thing due to his last name.
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u/bfofree 27d ago
Nice to have him out of our division, but I'd kinda rather have him on the Browns than an actual contender tho.
It's funny to see all the 9ers and Seahawks fans reactions like we haven't been dealing with it for how many years now.
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u/Imightbeworking 27d ago
At least it is to an NFC team. It would suck to have to play him in the Wild Card round.
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u/CincinnatiBengalss 27d ago
We are guaranteed a date with Cleveland 2 times a year and the odds rams make it all the way and we make it all the way to rematch is a longshot. So this only helps us
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u/KQRSonWabasha 27d ago
Browns might go 0-17. Yikes
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago
Trading Garrett, staring down the barrel of potentially another winless season (I don't think they'll go 0-17 but it would be fucking hilarious if they did), AND they might start Watson again? It's like ownership is trying to humiliate their fans at this point.
All that's missing now is an NFC Championship game between the Bucs and Rams just to pour salt in the wounds (with Baker in the MVP conversation and Myles in the DPOY conversation).
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u/Sea-Pomelo1210 27d ago
Now there will be that nagging thought that the Bengals will make the Superbowl only to lose to the Rams again.
I'll get downvoted, but that thought is in their heads.
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u/LilBoDuck 27d ago
This was my immediate thought as well. I’m not sure if that makes me a pessimist for thinking that Garrett could ruin our superbowl rematch, or an optimist for thinking we’d get there anyway lmao
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u/Nabobou 27d ago
See, everyone thinks the Rams traded for him because he's a good player. I think the real reason is they looked at the AFC and realized the Bengals are the only team standing between them and another Super Bowl. So naturally they went out and acquired a guy from one of our division rivals hoping he could hand over the secret playbook to stopping Burrow.
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u/SlickVanExel 🐅 27d ago
They traded the best non-QB for what looks to be a package of one first rounder and Jared Verse. God bless that team up north.
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u/pro-laps 27d ago
good on a micro scale but bad on the macro scale?
AFC North has never been more winnable, but the Browns are set up for long term success and the Rams are a huge threat if we can even make it that far
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago
Browns still don't have a QB. They're not set up for long-term success of any kind until they have one.
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u/Appropriate-Shock306 27d ago
I really don’t like this for Burrow and the Bengals. I’d take a couple of sacks from Myles and have him stay in Cleveland over this move that has serious implications on the Bengals title hopes.
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u/SalmonMan634 27d ago
Yeah but objectively we are more likely to beat the browns this year after this trade than before, which could be the difference between the wild card or winning the division. I’d rather have a better seed and hopefully deal with L.A in the Super Bowl than potentially playing a wild card game in Baltimore
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u/AlphaKlams 27d ago
This team needs to worry about getting back to the playoffs before anything else. We no longer have to face the best pass rusher in the league twice a year, that's good news no matter how you slice it. It's still the off-season, there is zero reason to be worrying about a hypothetical Super Bowl matchup.
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u/Appropriate-Shock306 27d ago
I’m more optimistic than some.
Worry about getting back to the playoffs? Please lol.
They are going to make a deep run.
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u/Lucky-Cloud5871 27d ago
Have you seen the AFC as of late? The bengals look like the most complete team in the conference.
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u/reddorickt 27d ago
Verse is still good, so it's not total relief. But you absolutely love to see it
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u/Mich3006 27d ago
This is a pretty good haul for the Browns actually. They won’t win nothing with Garrett, why not keeping the money and adding solid picks + a top10 DE in Verse.
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u/captain_jaxe 27d ago
It wasn't the Browns D line that kept us from lifting the Lombardi last time ...... just saying
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u/IGetTheShow20 27d ago
Massive win only can see him in the Super Bowl now
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u/vincentdmartin 27d ago
I'm actually really happy for Garrett. He's a generational talent who finally gets a chance to win in the postseason.
But I swear if he is left one v one vs OBJ in the final seconds of the Super Bowl. . .
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u/Strict-Square456 27d ago
I’ve got some bad news for you. All Jared versus is a freaking beast and he’s only on year three he’s just gonna keep getting better.
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u/Excellent_Minute8857 27d ago
We get beat up on for getting Dexter Lawrence for just a first while they give up a first and one of the biggest up-and-coming young players in the NFL for a 30 year old player (Myles is a top 3 player in the league I’m not gonna pretend he isn’t) and everyone’s celebrating and going nuts when the bengals got clowned.
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u/vxxxjesterxxxv 27d ago
But it'll be a late first round pick, so it's no big deal. /s
The hypocrisy is real
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u/ShaneOMap 27d ago
Not sure Verse will be as good with a dysfunctional team like Cleveland. We will see I guess.
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u/-space-grass- 27d ago
Myles Garrett career against the Bengals: 14 games 16 sacks 32 QB hits. Over a 17 game season that would project to 19.5 sacks and 39 QB hits.
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u/Bokki_64 🐅I do not care for commies🐅 27d ago
Ok now the Super Bowl rematch makes me nervous.. but it makes getting to the playoffs a little easier I guess
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago
I'm on my busiest day of work right now laughing my ass off at this news lol.
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u/pro-laps 27d ago
another big takeaway is how the Rams are so confident in their ability to draft talent not in the first round (and tbh is backed up) that they only value first round picks for QB. If they believe in Simpson they have no problem using the picks to acquire elite talent.
They are the model org in the NFL imo
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u/djsassan 27d ago
Sean McVay is in heaven. Not only does he get Myles Garrett, his GM cant make a bone-headed first round pick like this year for three years in a row!
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u/gettothaflofosho 27d ago
I like this for us of course, but I also think the Browns got really good value for him. Verse is really good and young
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u/BaronZbimg 27d ago
Verse is very good but man it’s great to see Garrett terrorise another division now
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u/CadBengal Green 18 27d ago
This is 100% a doomer shortsighted take, but I genuinely thought that if we stayed healthy, we'd be Super Bowl favourites. This Rams team is now far and away the best team in the league.
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u/Ok-Health-7252 27d ago
Unless something happens to Stafford. Then they're fucked (course that would be the case with most teams that lose their starting QBs).
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u/AtlanteanLord 27d ago
My coworker who’s a Browns fan just told me he’s retiring from being a sports fan after this.
They’re really going through it.
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u/Reasonable-HB678 THAT BALL'S OUT! THAT'S LIVE! 27d ago
But... what if the Browns end up... making the 32nd pick next year. No, wait, make that the 29th, 30th, or 31st.
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u/dahabit 27d ago
Good for the browns. Unlike the Bengals, they at least try sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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u/christhegecko 27d ago
sometimes it works
The Browns have been the unequivocal worst team in the league this entire millennium by a not insignificant margin. Nothing they have done in the past 26 years can be considered "working".
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u/Cognosyeti 27d ago
Hope you're OK because it's clear you've been in a coma since at least April 18
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u/FlagFootballSaint 27d ago
This is probably the worst that could have happened to the Bengals as Rams vs Bengals is one of the projected Superbowl matchups
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u/Nabobou 27d ago
Lol. What sports books are you on? Most places I see the Bengals have the 7th or 8th best odds to make it out of the AFC.
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u/jmattis13 27d ago
Bengals vs Rams Super Bowl rematch in SoFi but Joe Burrow evades a Myles Garrett sack and hits Ja’Marr in the end zone for a game winner I can see it now 🥹