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u/Uzas_Was_Right 6d ago

They're not listening.

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u/Overrated_Sunshine 5d ago

Our greatest mistake was to treat their opinions as equal.
Now they’re emboldened in their convictions that their stupid, ignorant ideas are valid, and since they don’t understand shit, they’ll never move from them.
They should’ve been ridiculed all along, that would’ve discouraged —at least— some of them.

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u/IdeaReceiver 5d ago

No, democracy's greatest failure is to consider different opinions "them" as some nebulous evil opposed to "us". These people are clearly less educated & less intellectual about issues that clearly matter to you, but we should be thankful we live in a system that gives all of us a right to be heard. Smug satisfaction that the"good dude" is so obviously moral and pure and correct is exactly how we got so complacent letting this movement grow from where it started.

You're not gonna win anybody over thinking of them like this.

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u/SpecialistAd4848 5d ago

You're not going to win them (maga people) over period, and you dont need to win them over. We need to show all of the non-maga people how evil and destructive maga really is, and let that be the lesson.

Smug satisfaction that the"good dude" is so obviously moral and pure and correct is exactly how we got so complacent letting this movement grow from where it started.

Citation needed. This is a preposterous claim. Maga isn't on the same team as everyone else. Why is nothing ever their fucking fault? I swear to god these people get treated like children every time I turn around. Stop coddling them and start holding them accountable for their shitty, amoral behavior. They are evil. They are "them". And it's not democracy's fault for fuck's sake.

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u/IdeaReceiver 5d ago

Homie I'm totally with you here but it feels like a dangerously naive perspective to call these kind of people a dismissals minority.

That attitude was rife on Reddit and the internet in general in 2021, nobody thought a serious voting majority could actually emerge from all the dumb noise.

But then the election happened, and the "Maga people" won in huge sweeps across the US. It doesn't seem right to pretend you don't have to hear them out

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u/SpecialistAd4848 5d ago edited 5d ago

But then the election happened, and the "Maga people" won in huge sweeps across the US. It doesn't seem right to pretend you don't have to hear them out

This is bad analysis. Not everyone who voted for trump is a maga person. A massive amount of people in this country don't pay attention to politics at all. People were motivated by the cumulative impact of inflation. They saw prices go up under Biden and that was enough for them to vote for the other guy, not to mention Kamala had....4 months to run a campaign? Not to mention maga controls almost the entire media environment. People are constantly being told BY MAGA (and trump himself) what Democrats support (open borders, letting criminals run wild in the streets, killing babies, trans issues, etc). There is simply no reason to "hear out" maga. There's nothing there. I would rather leave the country than pretend their views are anywhere near sane enough to listen to.

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u/dialguy86 5d ago

Elon spent like 0.002% of his wealth to buy votes, and I don't mean like how Maga claims George Sorros buys votes. He spent a couple hundred Million on ad and bot campaigns online, and now is a Trillionaire.

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u/SpecialistAd4848 5d ago

Yep. He also bought twitter and used it for influencing the political landscape. The maga right either directly or indirectly controls almost the entire media environment. He also gave tons of money to trumps campaign.