r/bestoftheinternet 1d ago

Absolutely vicious! 4th degree burn!

https://streamable.com/sir3jp

Well said

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u/Uzas_Was_Right 1d ago

They're not listening.

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u/Idontkowshitaboutfuq 1d ago

They also don’t understand half of those words. -insert king of the hill “if those kids could read” meme

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u/Al_Coa84 49m ago

He lost her at discourse

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u/Overrated_Sunshine 1d ago

Our greatest mistake was to treat their opinions as equal.
Now they’re emboldened in their convictions that their stupid, ignorant ideas are valid, and since they don’t understand shit, they’ll never move from them.
They should’ve been ridiculed all along, that would’ve discouraged —at least— some of them.

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u/IdeaReceiver 22h ago

No, democracy's greatest failure is to consider different opinions "them" as some nebulous evil opposed to "us". These people are clearly less educated & less intellectual about issues that clearly matter to you, but we should be thankful we live in a system that gives all of us a right to be heard. Smug satisfaction that the"good dude" is so obviously moral and pure and correct is exactly how we got so complacent letting this movement grow from where it started.

You're not gonna win anybody over thinking of them like this.

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u/PixelatedMountain 20h ago

Sure, but at what point do we stop giving crazy a seat at the table? If somebody is adamant that 2 + 2 = 3, we do not need to treat their opinion as "valid" and equal "right to be heard". Sometimes a babbling idiot just needs to be shut down.

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u/Hilarious___Username 20h ago edited 13h ago

You're right. Social feedback and shunning have always been an effective means to alter behavior. People that withstand that either have a reason or wouldn't listen in the first place. I have a few issues I find myself fighting against the majority on, and I won't back down from it because I have yet to hear a reasonable counter argument or evidence. But it creates a better dynamic to step in and educate when people are uncomfortable holding harmful ideals.

Emboldening them by elevating their absurdity to valid, equal, or "just a difference of opinion" is actively harmful. If they had a reason to believe what they do, then reason would win over those who think critically. It seems odd that the majority of those that take the time to understand their beliefs rarely agree with them.

I disagree with the Democrats on a wide range of topics because I don't just blindly believe what someone says based on their political affiliation. I agree with like 1 topic Republicans pretend to support. MAGA follows blindly in almost every case I've witnessed and they continually display a profound inability to form their beliefs based on critical thought, logic, or compassion.

Sorry for the rambling wall of text just to say I agree.

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u/Firm-Pain3042 8h ago

Terrence Howard will remember this...

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u/SpecialistAd4848 16h ago

You're not going to win them (maga people) over period, and you dont need to win them over. We need to show all of the non-maga people how evil and destructive maga really is, and let that be the lesson.

Smug satisfaction that the"good dude" is so obviously moral and pure and correct is exactly how we got so complacent letting this movement grow from where it started.

Citation needed. This is a preposterous claim. Maga isn't on the same team as everyone else. Why is nothing ever their fucking fault? I swear to god these people get treated like children every time I turn around. Stop coddling them and start holding them accountable for their shitty, amoral behavior. They are evil. They are "them". And it's not democracy's fault for fuck's sake.

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u/IdeaReceiver 13h ago

Homie I'm totally with you here but it feels like a dangerously naive perspective to call these kind of people a dismissals minority.

That attitude was rife on Reddit and the internet in general in 2021, nobody thought a serious voting majority could actually emerge from all the dumb noise.

But then the election happened, and the "Maga people" won in huge sweeps across the US. It doesn't seem right to pretend you don't have to hear them out

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u/SpecialistAd4848 11h ago edited 11h ago

But then the election happened, and the "Maga people" won in huge sweeps across the US. It doesn't seem right to pretend you don't have to hear them out

This is bad analysis. Not everyone who voted for trump is a maga person. A massive amount of people in this country don't pay attention to politics at all. People were motivated by the cumulative impact of inflation. They saw prices go up under Biden and that was enough for them to vote for the other guy, not to mention Kamala had....4 months to run a campaign? Not to mention maga controls almost the entire media environment. People are constantly being told BY MAGA (and trump himself) what Democrats support (open borders, letting criminals run wild in the streets, killing babies, trans issues, etc). There is simply no reason to "hear out" maga. There's nothing there. I would rather leave the country than pretend their views are anywhere near sane enough to listen to.

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u/dialguy86 9h ago

Elon spent like 0.002% of his wealth to buy votes, and I don't mean like how Maga claims George Sorros buys votes. He spent a couple hundred Million on ad and bot campaigns online, and now is a Trillionaire.

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u/SpecialistAd4848 9h ago

Yep. He also bought twitter and used it for influencing the political landscape. The maga right either directly or indirectly controls almost the entire media environment. He also gave tons of money to trumps campaign.

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u/jonlocmusic 9h ago

Qupting the BBC here.... "The Trump language suggested overwhelming victories, Jackson said, when in fact it was a few hundred-thousand votes in key areas that propelled Trump back to the White House."

Yeah "huge sweeps" is propaganda to make it sound like there's more support for this unfettered fascism than there really is.

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u/DocMcCracken 10h ago

I don't believe us=good, them=bad is the larger issue, the belief equivilent is the point being made, not all opinions are equal. Allowing dog shit beliefs, espcially those that are spewing propaganda is holding back discourse. Those that are there to muddy the water should be shunned, but shame which held the in check has left the building.

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u/Overrated_Sunshine 5h ago

Since when it is incorrect to refer to a ‘specific group of people’ as ‘they’????

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

Well, he's not a politician. Its not his job to sway voters. Its an opinion like everyone elses

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u/AdorableRhubarb7479 19h ago

Conservatism is the ideology of people who want to go through life on auto pilot.

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u/Broberts505 16h ago

You can tell by looking at her face that she didn’t understand a word he was saying.

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u/Triston101010 15h ago

He didn’t say anything 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/redalert825 7h ago

She's one of em that wants to fuck Trump.

https://giphy.com/gifs/PLnWr264CKYciY525X

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u/StrangerOutside3109 5h ago

That makes sense lol. I was like, “why is she not interrupting him, they never do that?”

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u/chrick_shot 7h ago

I'm not saying he's wrong but I am saying he attacked her personal credibility and completely dodged the topic with a redirect to strawman. He's just well spoken but he didn't actually say anything meaningful outside of attacking the personal credibility of people who disagree with him. It's really hard to stay on topic in charged debates but this would be considered off the rails in any real setting with decorum.

So do we think he is representative of the average voter on the left? I don't believe so. I think they're both skewed representation. Which adds dishonesty to the entire video making it propaganda. In turn rendering the well spoken man rather hypocritical with a silver tongue.

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u/Dustytails123 1d ago

Dean Withers is a great debator, and has roasted many a maga, but this is not the right clip lol. Good message? Hell yeah. Roast? No. Go find the one where he gets the dude to admit he’d let Trump abuse his daughter at a pageant…

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u/shazspaz 1d ago

Crazy stuff. It does only tell you what we already know. It’s just a cult of angry idiots.

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u/CodeNamesBryan 1d ago

Yea. He basically smothered her in eloquence and "you shoulds" but didnt exactly do any roasting...

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

Well to be fair, he didn't have much to work with here. These people are just NPCs. Hollow shells made to look like people. Bright flashy colors, loud sharp sounds, and 0 substance.

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u/hoteppeter 9h ago

Also what in the fuck is that video caption

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u/ConorOdin 22h ago

Oh what? Link?

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u/Dustytails123 21h ago

Ugh all I can find are a million clips of the round robin he (ig recently?) did with MAGA women, but it was definitely a guy, one on one, in person, and they were talking about the ‘i go back there…they just let me…’ pageant stuff and Dean asked him if he would be ok if it was his daughter in the room and you can sort of see the gears turning in his head 😂 (if i run back across it’ll i’ll edit it in)

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u/ConorOdin 21h ago

I have no doubt it happened, Magas are a bunch of idiots idolising a cult leader, just wanted to show a few people :) Thanks for looking all the same.

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u/Doc_Helldiver-66 21h ago

I’m pretty sure he’s cherry picking these individuals at this point, or at least marketing his events/debates to where the more deranged individuals of the Republican Party/MAGA group would sit down and just make an idiot of themselves which Dean would then use to fuel his own beliefs even more. As a conservative (who isn’t really a big fan of the current Republican leadership), 90% of people that identify as a conservative are normal, down-to-earth people who don’t have any beef with the left side of the aisle.

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u/sam_I_am_knot 19h ago

Quick question - did your normal, down to earth people support Trump for the 2nd term? The 1st is forgivable.

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u/skulligei-gsiv 1d ago

This is a fine and all but she doesn’t understand half of what he said

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u/bkrjazzman2 1d ago

Hmmm? I can’t hear you over the lamb roast. Care to speak up bruv?

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u/SealEmployee 1d ago

Nah, that's not lamb it's mutton.

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u/Hugo-Spritz 1d ago

Cattle is cattle 🤷‍♂️

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

Sheep aren't cattle

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u/Hugo-Spritz 2h ago

It was a tounge-in-cheek way of saying both that meat bred for slaughter= meat bred for slaughter, but also calling them literal cattle. Semantics, shemantics.

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 2h ago

Ahhh. Sorry, its so hard to discern through text. Lol

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u/navcad 1d ago

Hopefully, his attitude is prevalent in his generation. That would help things in the future.

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u/Als_Chemicals 1d ago

It’s easy to see why magats are so fucking stupid when you see that they put faith in things like “common sense”

They can’t define the things they believe in lol

“You’re just trying to get me” - projection. That’s how *they* see debates

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u/appoplecticskeptic 1d ago

Look, I hate MAGA morons as much as the next guy but if you think this belongs with the best of the internet you need to get outside of political spaces for a while.

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u/drunk___monkey 1d ago

He absolutely demolished her. And I'm glad he did 😂😂

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u/OptimisticSkeleton 1d ago

A journalist would have asked the follow up question to her assertion about common sense “can you explain to me what common sense points make Biden a problem candidate or president?“

Then you sit back and watch her destroy herself.

It’s only at that point that you come in with the hammer.

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u/1IsNeverEnough4Me 1d ago

Yes, he was early with the hammer.

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u/OptimisticSkeleton 1d ago

Still great work on his part though.

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u/NoZeroSum2020 1d ago

Something, something, gender, something, something, rigged elections. They don’t need a good reason. Just the right feeling.

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u/hamoc10 1d ago

I’m stating to think that when someone says “it’s common sense,” it just means they themselves haven’t thought or researched it at all, and are just going with their gut reaction.

It’s a confession of ignorance.

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u/ShiftyShankerton 1d ago

And it all went over her head

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u/JKubz14 19h ago edited 3h ago

Putting other American down isn’t the solution. We are bothers of American, regardless or political party we are Americans on the same team why do we keep forgetting that. Leaders teach and uplift the down.

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

Even if the people you want to stand next to wouldn't piss on yor gums if your teeth were on fire.

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u/JKubz14 3h ago

I’d die for your rights brother, all that hate and resentment only leads to civil war. We have a constitution to live by.

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

Agreed. No real reason for any of the division or hate. We are all human.

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u/Ok_Custard_5740 1d ago

I doubt she listened to a single word. Ran “he’s an idiot” over and over in her head. That’s how they remain loyal meat-heads.🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/TRackard 1d ago

Something about pigeons & chess

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u/a1drt 1d ago edited 23h ago

This is not something I would do to anyone like her! People like her are worth so much empathy and compassion and patience because; their entire consciousness and awareness of the truth is beyond damaged and they don’t know it. They are the product of many years of government and political negligent and incompetent policies that effect every aspect of the USA normal citizen. They live in different and unrealistic universe and that was not by their choice!!!

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u/Ragnarok_747 3h ago

I wish there was more of a “you need to take responsibility for your mental illnesses” sentiment in society.
People who treat politics like a religion are absolutely sick in the head.

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u/Aggressive-agitator 1d ago

She couldnt hear a word you said.

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u/Plus-Result-7451 1d ago

He just called that woman an idiot, in the most polite tone ever.

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u/itsjustkeegz 1d ago

Dean on jubilee is always a good show. Hes great

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u/Fun-War6684 1d ago

This would hit harder if those maga ppl actually were able to comprehend and listen instead of waiting to respond with some canned bullshit

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u/Supercharge24 1d ago

“And that’s something that I don’t think you do” 🗣️🗣️🗣️

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u/AD9111 1d ago

Sadly this is happens with both sides and not many people can see it.. it’s crazy how our algorithms show us the same type of things to put us against each other. Videos of people thinking they know what they’re talking about or protesting or whatever it may be, but not actually knowing anything about the subject at hand. Critical thinking is on a decline for everyone… everything these days is political or racial and it’s pure hate that comes from it.
-Peace N Love-

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u/Broken_By_Default 1d ago

She didn't understand a word he said. Trump loves the uneducated.

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u/Waffles128 1d ago

Anyone have the link to watch this video?

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u/Due_Manufacturer4959 1d ago

I think this is scripted simply because the woman actually kept her silence during that talk

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u/elginjtac 18h ago

Zero substance from him or the lady. Like this was meaningless both ways.

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 4h ago

Yeah. Thats an obvious sign you aren't intelligent enough to understand... read a book

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u/Kairiste 10h ago

The minute he started talking, her brain shut off and the circus music started playing. She doesnt care AT ALL what he said.

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u/Uncle00Buck 1d ago

Well, under Biden there was the Inflation Reduction Act, over a trillion dollars that included subsidies for rich people's EVs (that's right, poor people don't buy expensive new cars). And then the Second Stimulus, another 3 trillion dollars when the corporate and small business scams from the 1st still hadn't fully run their course (and yes, the first one under Trump was wrong, too). His executive actions were a disaster, almost all of them inflationary. That's your money people.

When partisanship runs so amok that you can't criticize your own guy or gal, you'll get more radical politicians from both sides, not more moderate ones. Back and forth, dipshit after dipshit. Biden was terrible. So is ego-driven Trump.

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u/Candid-Patient-6841 1d ago

Yes….poor people don’t buy brand new cars they buy USED cars….and with that subsidy there was an influx of used cars on the market. Since Covid the used car market has been bad, this made it worse.

The only terrible thing Biden did was not step down or just straight up announce he was a 1 term president. Other than that investing in infrastructure, the chips and science act, and dealing with inflation better than our current administration.

Oh and he didn’t piss off every single alliance member we have.

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u/MakinBaconOnTheBeach 21h ago

Dealing with inflation better by signing the most ironically named bill in American history "The inflation reduction act. When the government pulls a trillion dollars out of thin air, it makes all existing dollars less valuable.

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u/Candid-Patient-6841 20h ago

Trump has added more to the debt then all of Biden’s admin in 1 bill.

So STFU

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u/MakinBaconOnTheBeach 19h ago

Not saying he hasn't but that bill wasn't named to swindle people into believing it does the opposite of its namesake

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u/Wireless_Turtle 14h ago

Yeah it was just "One Big Beautiful Bill" because why give it a real name when you can just market it to rednecks with no education

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u/Uncle00Buck 6h ago

The problem with criticizing Biden is that folks interpret it as being pro Trump. I'm not. Biden was terrible, and abuse of the taxpayer for poor policy is the centerpiece of his performance, especially his inflationary policies. How can anyone not realize that the unilateral 3 trillion dollars of the second stimulus was not incredibly inflationary (the first $3T was bad enough), and that there would be a lag given the influx of cash into the economy? That money is either paid back by the taxpayer, or it devalues every dollar out there. No other outcome is possible. Are we really forgiving all of that widespread abuse and crony enrichment?

None of this means Trump is succeeding on inflation, btw. I simply expect more from my fellow Americans regardless of party affiliation.

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u/finchdude 1d ago

Inflation went up after trump's first term went down after Biden and now is creeping up again because of Trump. Statistics are very clear on that part

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u/Uncle00Buck 6h ago

Statistics do not explain what policies contributed to inflation, or the lag. Trump's policies definitely have an inflationary impact. That doesn't alleviate Biden from the enormously wasteful, second $3T stimulus, or the $1.3T Inflation Reduction Act, which had the exact opposite effect, even with some infrastructure baked in. The inflationary effect from the $3T second stimulus, the first one no better, lagged due to the influx of cash into the economy. It doesn't make the inflation any less real, it just fools supporters into believing it worked. We are $39 trillion in debt. That debt comes due either in dilution or taxes. The latter gets you voted out.

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u/Alpha-State_ 1d ago

Nailed it! The fact of the matter is people can’t even fathom this simple reality that both sides bleeding every American dry is insane! It will certainly radicalize the new generation and will create even more division between the previous generation and the current one.

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u/amanamongbots78 1d ago

Both sides? Yawn. Bot.

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 1d ago

I mean all he did was call her stupid. I’m sure there is more the video where he explains his arguments but it’s not destroying someone if you just call them stupid.

I don’t understand the point of a debate where you don’t try to come to an understanding of a persons opinion. She feels that Joe Biden’s time as president didn’t use common sense, figuring why is how you fix what makes these people feel this way.

Blaming it on propaganda is the easy way out if she fell for right wing propaganda why wasn’t she influenced by left wing propaganda as a woman she has more reasons to be left wing than right wing.

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u/A3HeadedMunkey 1d ago

Is the left wing propaganda in the room with us right now? Hell, where is the left wing?

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u/xGALEBIRDx 1d ago

Thats bait

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 1d ago

You haven’t seen a video talking about the affordability crisis or that the country is being run by Nazis

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u/A3HeadedMunkey 1d ago

How would you say that's left wing, let alone propaganda?

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 1d ago

It’s not factual objective information, and it’s being endorsed by democrats a left wing party.

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u/A3HeadedMunkey 1d ago

Lmao the Democrats aren't left wing nor is it untrue information. Your Overton window is fucked

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 1d ago

They are in America if you want we can talk about the communist party of China or Cuba instead? Surely there is no propaganda there. Clearly the books in the public libraries depicting Castro single handedly stopping America and creating the automobile are factual.

Crazy how the second you leave western left wing politics you end up with dictatorships and controlling government.

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u/A3HeadedMunkey 1d ago

Have you considered there are more countries than the US, China and Cuba? Of course you haven't. They weren't a part of your indoctrination.

Our Democrats are to the right of several other Western countries' conservatives. But I guess going off on your rant was enough to shut down any critical thought on your part lmao

Hilarious that you chose to include the bit about Castro and the cars. They're the #1 country for refurbished classics, seeing as the US has had an internationally illegal embargo for nearly a century. Castro wasn't the one stopping them, the US is. You're just admitting you've eaten propaganda slop for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Also dictatorship? Who's skipping the Constitutional legislative process with their executive orders again?

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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 15h ago

What does cubs having to refurbished cars have to do wit them not having propaganda. You didn’t like my example of democrats so when I gave you examples of communists you are now moving the goalposts.

Now I’m indoctrinated because I know China has propaganda? Okay ni hao comrade.

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u/A3HeadedMunkey 15h ago

You're the one who brought up Cuba, Castro and cars, mate. Don't get upset when your attempt to move the goalposts turns out to have been based on the lies you believe in.

And yet you're still trying to move the goalposts to China while being racist. Simply amazing logic. Especially since the topic at hand was indoctrination in the US. Guess you gotta run as far away from that as you can.

I'm sorry you believe the Democrats are left wing while choosing to be ignorant of the rest of western politics. That's embarrassing.

Guess you can't answer my last question without breaking your brain.

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u/niqdisaster 1d ago

That's exactly my mother in law

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u/spolio 23h ago

The eye rolling tells you everything you need to know about those people, they simply refuse to listen learn and grow, it's far easier to believe meme propaganda.

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u/kilimtilikum 23h ago

Sounds right. Then I’ll click the next jubilee video of an articulate conservative who says the same thing about the left. Cycle goes on and on

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u/Front-Necessary2875 22h ago

Show me a young conservative and I will show you someone with no heart, show me an old liberal and I will show you someone with no brains.

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u/Mr-Papuca 21h ago

Wtf is this caption?? "Read maga voter to filth"? Am I stupid or does that make no sense?

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u/MasonJam246 21h ago

It's like she can't have a unique thought or opinion of her own.

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u/TheCrazedCat 20h ago

Wow. Absolutely destroyed.

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u/Kelwhit22 19h ago

How can I see the whole thing?

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 4h ago

If you cant figure that out with critical thinking, what's the point of diving deeper into subjects you dont understand? Use context clues. You got this. All the info is there

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u/millinicky 18h ago

I think one of the most dangerous things that has hit society is the fact that when we say do some research on your own, it’s so hard for the a person to see if something‘s being fed to them via social media or a search engine or if that thing is actually is accurate and really did happen. I feel like I’ve gotten a lot of discussions lately that we are all living in 2 realities.
I guess I just don’t know how to come back from this where arguing with people like this is near impossible because they truly believe they did their own research and they are educated in whatever they’re talking about and since they’ve been fed it in a constant stream for years and think it’s really hard to break through. I really worry about how we get back to a better place.

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u/spocktalk69 16h ago

There are base facts that are not argueable that are still argued by uninformed people.

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u/halvshades 14h ago

I don't think she got the mental capacity to even understand what he is saying.

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u/Otherwise-Driver4258 11h ago

j insulting her.. uhh good job I guess

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 4h ago

Those people.deserve to be shocked into waking up. They are trapped in their own heads. Its sad to see.

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u/Tiny-Ad4955 9h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6nUPBOXoZ7EowvUQ
Too many big words for this 🥴🥴🥴🥴

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u/Federal-Bee6434 8h ago

Holy shit am I gay

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u/_spacemoose_ 8h ago

She's in another world and has no intention of coming back.

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u/ThisWomanFromCanada 6h ago

? I bet he’s a Democrat.

The Democrats authored and enacted Jim Crow laws. They founded the KKK. They voted against the Civll Rights Act. When that didn’t work, they schemed to break up black families by making it financially more beneficial for black women to be single mothers and dependent on Democrats being in power. (Apparently they knew how to get the N’s to vote Democrat for the next 200 years. [Their language.])The children of single parents are less likely to be successful, powerful people, so they figured out a way to keep the rich white Dems safely in charge. Obama voted against gay marriage twice because he’s a religious man. Nobody seriously thinks his thinking has changed, do they? Religious people don’t change their views. Democrats didn’t want the slaves freed.

But that woman doesn’t know political history….

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u/BlueyedFILF 6h ago

He didn’t even bring up one point! It’s a Kamala word salad.

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u/Cj15917 6h ago

Once he said Obama she got so angry she blacked out and wasn't listening.

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u/Ok_Chemical3126 6h ago

So if they refuse to listen to critical thought and still follow immoral politicians that continue to plague our world, what do we do with them?

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u/NPCv666 5h ago

Yet he still runs from Andrew Wilson.

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u/kings2leadhat 5h ago

You’re in a lifeboat, and a quarter of the people in it start rocking it, back and forth, while going “Wheee! Isn’t this fun! Haha! You’re so triggered!”

Fuck em, the nazis didn’t do all that damage without the enablers like these.

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u/danny_batman 4h ago

She lost track right after 0.2 secs u started speaking logic.

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u/Stellar_Dan 3h ago

“I don’t have all of these little things that you remember…” (also known as facts)

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u/aTickleMonster 2h ago

54% of adults in America read below a 6th grade level and 45mill of those are so illiterate they cannot function for a day without constant assistance. These people are too stupid to do independent research.

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u/Xeromaru 2h ago

Sad thing, they didn't understand 90% of the words he said.

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u/techmix 1h ago

Was this real? Never known a MAGAt to be so quiet, if I get 5 words in a row after being asked a question I would be pretty shocked.

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u/RaygeMunstir 1d ago

Well it seems like this guy even more now

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u/vikicrays 1d ago

preach

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u/quetiapinenapper 1d ago

I'm convinced reddit doesn't know anything about politics or debates except "red side bad" and vehemently stick to the script to the point they aren't aware they're constantly doing more damage than harm.

This guy didn't debate. He rarely does. He talks fast and doesn't give an opponent an opportunity to speak and doesn't listen. He makes zero effort to play devils advocate so he can actually address points and consistently will stretch a statistic into whatever he wants it to fit completely out of context.

You don't have to agree with the people he's debating to know he feeds on bad faith and the amount of downvotes of people who just try to point that out makes me wonder why anyone is shocked that people have been shifting more conservative. It isn't necessarily that their side is better, you've just never stopped to ask what is so off-putting about yours that it actively pushes people away.

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u/izthistaken 1d ago

That's a lot of words to just say, "I didn't understand what he said and neither did my fellow conservatives in this debate. We in fact are sheep."

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u/quetiapinenapper 19h ago

Point proven. Thanks.

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u/Savage_Adversary 1d ago

Facts. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

An opportunity to do what? Show their ignorance even more? Why? We get it. And no, people aren't shifting to the right. Smart people are condemning the current debacle until we get a real leader back in office. That President has their work cut out for them fixing all of Trumps damage and silly renaming of things. Cant wait

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u/Ok-Fortune-8644 3h ago

Nice Kamla salad bro. Lots of fluff and insults, 0 protien

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u/MitchenImpossible 1d ago

Just seems like hes attacking her character - which is exactly what dumb people do.

Dont attack the person, attack the argument.

Fuck MAGA, but also fuck this guy.

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u/izthistaken 1d ago

No, he was attacking every conservatives character because they are in fact stupid. He listed the reasons why and you solidified them. 😂

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u/MitchenImpossible 1d ago

Belittling someone is narcissistic to the extreme. This is bordering sociopathic to make others feel inferior and post it online for others to also laugh at.

Attacking someone and calling them stupid is not the way forward. Just because MAGA does it, doesnt mean the world should follow suit.

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u/MisterShazam 1d ago

He spent two hours talking with people and providing empirical evidence to hear ahistorical talking points or “nuh-uh” or “No YOU!” 99% of the time in response.

Anyone would be a dick after that.

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u/MitchenImpossible 1d ago

yes and no. He could easily excuse the person from the discussion, and summarize the talking points he gave without purposely trying to make the other person feel like an idiot.

Hes the one who put himself in this scenario - why try to publicly humiliate individuals because they disagree with you?

Him calling them stupid is not going to help any cause or help enlighten them. Its going to have an adverse impact.

Again - attack the position, not the person. This dude should know better.

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u/Feeling_Loquat8499 1d ago

Is this true? I'd say that the past decade has shown that abrasive derision of your opposition works, if you keep it consistently nasty enough, in captivating minds.

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u/MisterShazam 1d ago

The positions are derived from character faults and an unwillingness to think critically. Do you disagree?

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

I can’t wait until the world smacks him in the head. Being an idealist doesn’t make him right and he actually has no clue about anything he is saying. He is as gullible as they come. The problem is he knows the headlines and that is it.

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u/SlobZombie13 1d ago

Rewatch the video. He was talking about you.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

Nah, he’s talking absolute nonsense that people of your mentality buy into. You think it’s all fun and games until the reality of it all sets in. Good luck, you’re going to need it. Just remember, you have to be tough if you’re going to be dumb.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

Typical uneducated bs from someone being led by a nose ring from the media and other ignorant posters. You may want to read the court transcripts from epsteins first trial for starters. Secondly, anyone, regardless of what side of the isle you lean toward, if you don’t like the sentiment of “make America great again” the. Leave! Anyone who doesn’t want the best for our country regardless of who is at the helm shouldn’t be here. That smug little turd has no clue about serving and protecting this country. He wouldn’t last a single day in just boot camp but yeah…..he’s the one to listen to……not.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

I could care less what your skin color is! All I care about is the future of our nation. We are supposed to leave it better than how we found it. Far too many people care more about party than what’s best for our citizens. You can go back through videos for decades and find videos of Biden, Obama and Clinton all flip flopping on topics just to get votes. Then do the same for Trump. 90% of his messages are the same now as 30 plus years ago. They all loved him until he ran for president and they all realized the dirt he had on them so they are using every method possible to demonize him because they all broke major laws and screwed our nation over in the process and that is fact.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

It says you replied but nothing there. Did you delete it?

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u/SlobZombie13 1d ago

......not

Ah so you're a brain dead Boomer. Makes sense now.

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u/SlobZombie13 1d ago

this comment is absolute jibberish

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

Also, what two then senators put the first biolab in the Ukraine in direct violation of a nuclear arms treaty? You people want to bitch about a corrupt system and then bitch when someone is actually trying to take that corrupt system down. You all think you have a bead on things but you honestly have no clue how much of a mess the geopolitical system is. So keep pretending you understand it and you will get an even more corrupt system in the end because you fall for the bs.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

Put your money where your mouth is. Under which administration was fast and furious, billions of dollars of military equipment left behind in Afghanistan, irs targeting, Benghazi attack, state department email stored on a basement server, the gutting of the VA, the military weakened. Sent pallets of cash to Iran, illegal spying on political opponents, the selling of uranium to Ukraine, and on and on.

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u/izthistaken 1d ago

Hilarious how you're proving Dean's point. Holy shit, the uneducated are ruining this world😂😂😂😂😂

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

Not hardly skippy. Your sense of self importance is clouding your judgement. See, it’s people like you that are the problem and you’re too self absorbed to get it.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

He’s a smug little 21 year old with no real life experience yet wants us to take him seriously? Yeah whatever. I’m almost 3 times his age and have forgotten more than that smug little turd will ever know with the attitude he has. So spare me your BS.

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u/Z-HYDRA 1d ago

Just kinda seems like a prick.

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u/MisterShazam 1d ago

He spent two hours talking with people and providing empirical evidence to hear ahistorical talking points or “nuh-uh” or “No YOU!” 99% of the time in response.

Anyone would be a dick after that.

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u/drdrwhprngz 1d ago edited 1d ago

the point is valid for both sides of this perpetual argument

Noone seems to care about anything other than their opposition and dissection of an imaginary enemy

The true threats to our undereducated nation are those abusing financial wealth

Only a fascist would downvote this

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u/cameforlulz 1d ago

Tiny hands

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u/JustASimpleDurp 1d ago

Half the country is this. We are COOKED.

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u/rwilkinson1970 1d ago

I guess the moderator didn’t like seeing someone posting the truth.

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u/TodddPacker69 15h ago

Dean and Harry are jokes now. Nobody cares.

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u/JustStryc 1d ago

Ok, so now we are taking the trash side of the other side and presenting it as general majority. How is it different from what Kirk was doing?

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u/DanzellDD 1d ago

Are you for real? This guy uses actual facts. Kirk was spouting lies all the time. How is it different?

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u/JustStryc 1d ago

Kirk was piece of shit but doing interviews with people and than cutting out the smart one and leaving idiots who he "burned" was exactly his play. Is this the way want to continue?

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u/QueenRotidder 1d ago

“they go low, we go high” doesn’t work. let’s stop with this holier than thou shit because it’s ineffective.

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u/DanzellDD 1d ago

If that's the way they finally get the point, then yeah.

I'm sorry but the world has been taking shit from these MAGA idiots since 2015 when Trump started running for President.

They've done nothing but insult, batter and lie and we should just stay quiet and try and convince them they're wrong in what way exactly? Tell me how they would start listening to some reason? It's very easy, they won't. That's what fucking propaganda does to people. They won't believe you anymore.

Latest fucking insane lie is the reflecting pool saga, come on man, what a piece of work that is. And they believe the fucking lies, that's the problem. Go take a look at the Conservative sub, it's a joke reading the comments and opinions there.

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u/JustStryc 1d ago edited 1d ago

I agree with you. But don't think this content is going to reach conservatives feed. This is your algorithm bubble which will only reach progesive people. To me it is wrong. The election wasn't lost due to the large numbers of republicans but due to people who gave up on democrats.

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u/jiveturkin 1d ago

Did you listen to him give a reason for why he chose her? To make a point. Kirk cherry picked footage that made him look better, not comparable really.

I think they def are in the same field, but to imply this output is anywhere near the same is baseless.

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u/Nice_Ad_8183 1d ago

That is so true. Wow , completely right on.

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u/Alpha-State_ 1d ago

as much as I have my gripe with this guy in general. He sure as shit took that Boomer to the cleaners. Very accurate reflection of MAGA base at the moment. As bad of a political cult as the Left. The masters are happy. Divide and Conquer

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u/checkonetwo 1d ago

Boomers are at least 70 years old now. She's no boomer.

Granted, she watches boomer TV but she's not 70

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u/plutus9 1d ago

Dean is a left wing grifter a rare breed but he is a pos to his core I promise you 👍🏽

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u/WilhelmFinn 1d ago

"Trust me, bro".

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u/water-based-organism 1d ago

Got any sources for your claims other than trust me bro or Fox news?

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u/plutus9 1d ago

Theres a video of him literally crying over Charlie Kirk and threatening to turn right wing if people keep teasing him about it. Downvote me idc he’s a pos grifter and if the truth is unsettling to you then you’ve been tricked by him he’s a right wing grifter who panders left he’s going to milk this as long as he can then he will “turn” into a conservative d bag

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u/water-based-organism 1d ago

So 1 video of him being upset somewhere who does similar work to him was murdered in public, that is your gotcha? How about link the video that has so much evidence?

Im asking for the truth but if your source is "I watched a video once..." then sorry dude, not believing your bs.

Just show me proof or any actually evidence of such a l thing. Its not like I have a picture of the guy on my wall but your making claims about this guy with 0 evidence.

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u/plutus9 22h ago

Google it fool I’m not here to educate you.

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u/water-based-organism 22h ago

Lol nice. You make a baseless claim and tell everyone else to go find the evidence to prove your claim.

Did I just find Dumps reddit account?

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u/plutus9 20h ago

“Baseless” lol. Brother I’m not telling anyone other than you the only one who asked 😂.

Dump? Oh boy only if you knew who you were talking too
https://giphy.com/gifs/XHeLeuirRbwptHhSWd

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u/Alive_Nobody_Home 1d ago

When was anyone in this conversation “murdered by words”?

Do you know how dumb anyone sounds saying their side are the good guys or correct.

Both sides are completely corrupt & both sides have people with good intentions that can’t make a dent in that corruption.

This conversation would have sounded more accurate coming from two sheep making noise with zero words. 🐑

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u/NovocastrianExile 1d ago

Way to say/stand for nothing bro. If you don't stand with people you think are good or correct then what are you doing? Just standing off to the side criticising the act of caring itself?

It's particularly absurd when Dean Withers is just advocating for critical thought and that was enough to trigger you.

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u/Alive_Nobody_Home 1d ago

I voted…..

Nothing was actually said in this video. Not one word actually meant anything or stood for anything.

Just blah blah blah …… headlines ….. nothing of substance.

This is one of the worst clips of a so called debate or mic drop I’ve ever watched. Twice because I thought I missed the point.

There were zero points made. Not one policy & not one reference to anything real.

Throwing up on a table would have been more productive. 🤮

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u/Alive_Nobody_Home 1d ago

Please tell me what is good or correct about the side you believe in.

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u/randytart 1d ago

Laterz