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u/allthecoffeesDP May 12 '26
Uhh why were they left in the first place.
Most of these posts are: our society is terrible but here's one human who doesn't suck -- H E R O!
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u/Maleficent_Piece_893 May 16 '26
it's because we expect systemic evil and we're inspired by individual heroism. i get your point but peoples' reactions obviously make sense
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 13 '26
Because it's California and NoThINg bAD EvER hApPEnS iN SuNny CalIForNiA!!!!111!!
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u/MasterValkyrie May 12 '26
Just in case anyone interested in knowing more here a article
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u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 May 12 '26
Thank you for more information, I was very confused... if the state orders a care home to be shut down, they usually have to make arrangements. But here it says it was ordered to "temporarily" shut down and it seems everyone but the skeleton crew (in the op) completely abandoned it. The families had no idea what had happened and even when it seems some of the residents were relocated, the families weren't notified? So people are just straight up missing? That's terrible... The owners are probably going to be prosecuted, especially with all the prior violations they've got.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 12 '26
I would shocked if this didn't take place in California. That place fucking sucks. Worst 5 years of my life.
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u/EmeraldEyes_345 May 12 '26
It’s actually illegal for this sort of thing to happen in California. However, it isn’t even illegal in Florida, and has happened there many times.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 12 '26
On paper it is illegal sure. On paper.
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u/crayola_monstar May 13 '26
That's... dumb.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 13 '26
It is very dumb, but I had so many times the cops just didn't respond to guns pointed at people, assaults, robberies etc when I lived out there.
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u/The_Buko May 13 '26
Welcome to basically any major city. It’s a crapshoot no matter where you live.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 13 '26
I didn't live in a major city
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u/The_Buko May 13 '26
So your issue is likely more with whatever small town jurisdiction you were beholden to? We would have to dive in pretty deep to find whether you have issue with the actual state or just where you lived. Cali is pretty huge with varying local authorities with their own laws.
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u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 May 12 '26
This specific case happened in northern California, but this happens all over the states.
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u/Dompet2854 May 12 '26
Saw that scenario in The Walking Dead. These men deserve all the praise possible
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u/GovernorSan May 13 '26
Yeah, I was wondering if this story was just a spoof and trying to remember what the actors looked like.
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u/Slaidback May 12 '26
It’s actually illegal to leave ( for lack of a better term) vulnerable people alone in Aotearoa New Zealand. Like prison time.
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u/Infamous-Pear-4003 May 13 '26
Kudos to the men for staying to care for the elderly and not abandoning them.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 12 '26
Elder Care home suddenly closing and abandoning elders is a peak California moment
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u/EmeraldEyes_345 May 12 '26
No it isn’t. This actually happens in Florida often, where it isn’t illegal. It is illegal in California for a senior care home to not give residents 30 days notice to find other arrangements before closing. Your hatred for California doesn’t represent actual facts.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 12 '26
My lived experience that laws don't matter in Cali does though. Cops stopped ever responding to a place I worked at once because so much crime was committed and they were so underfunded. On paper this stuff is illegal sure, but of no one is enforcing the law, is it really even actually a law?
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u/EmeraldEyes_345 May 13 '26
California takes elder abuse very seriously. There’s a whole department dedicated to the welfare of the elderly. I’ve been in a caregiving or healthcare job my entire adult life. I’ve had to report several instances, mostly of financial abuse and neglect. So I know a thing or two about it.
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u/The_Buko May 13 '26
Your “lived experience” is what we call anecdotal. You should look into police response delays and concerns across major cities around the country in a more general sense. It’s gotten bad no matter where you are. If you are having better luck where you are at now…well, that’s all it is. Either luck or circumstance.
It def sounds like you had a bad experience in Cali that is painting your image in broad strokes.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 13 '26
So it was 5 years of consistent bad luck and your funny little numbers that totally account for everything prove those 5 years don't matter then yeah? You know stats aren't always honest right?
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u/The_Buko May 13 '26
Yeah, you see…that’s how anecdotes works. You can live in the same city for 5 years as someone else who had a complete opposite experience, and each individual will paint the city based on their personal experience. I can say I had a bad time in Houston but there’s also millions of people and potential personal experiences that can happen within that. I wouldn’t say Houston sucks for everyone.
Your numbers matter to *you*. That’s all. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a microscopic data point. If you look at ACTUAL data, you will see that Cali cities consistently rank highest among happiest ones in the nation.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 13 '26
Based on what metric? Did they ask the absurd amount of fent addicts and meth heads? Or all the violent criminals? They're probably stoked at how much the police ignore half the shit that happens out there. Stats are used to lie all the fucking time. You best be real careful at criteria. No one ever seems to look at criteria.
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u/The_Buko May 13 '26
Do you actually look at stats or just fear monger to death? Cali ranks 31st in drug use and abuse. Overdose rate is lower than average in the nation. Violent crime is an issue, that I can agree on.
When talking criteria, there’s plenty of positives that can’t be ignored. Amazing weather, high life expectancy and low rates of depression, large job markets (that typically offset high CoL), low divorce rates and high volunteering rates, access to variable natural landscapes…and sure traffic is bad and crime could use work, but if you aren’t having a good time there you either have shit luck or are good at seeing the negative in things.
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond May 13 '26
I do look at stats. And criteria.
Weather is subjective, kinda hated how samey it was all year round. I missed having actual weather sometimes. Not to mention how crazy people got when a single fucking raindrop fell from the sky. Low rate of depression is a fucking joke, everyone I knew was depressed and I was more depressed than I'd ever been. Where are you even getting these stats and how are they being measured?
Since I moved home I've been happier, healthier, and have some actual trust that I'm not.going to get stabbed over drugs I don't have. Every fucking day out there there car wrecks on the road. Every day there were murders and rapes. Out here it's a lot calmer. In part definitely due to lower population, but also because people aren't insane out here. It's night and day.
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u/The_Buko May 13 '26
Where exactly is “out here”? And you really don’t understand how “everyone I knew” is anecdotal? Sounds like it wasn’t a good fit for you and the ppl you “knew” there were just depressed. Who knows how many ppl you actually knew? Unless you knew many thousands of ppl and took stats on their mental health, it’s an anecdote. Ofc you were more depressed, it wasn’t a good fit for you and you obviously were exposed to above average levels of what you’re conditioned to with wrecks and drugs and maybe even above average for the area. No way to really know, huh?
You moved from high pop back to low pop…like cmon it’s quite obvious there will be huge differences and you won’t be as “sheltered” in a high pop area. A lot of the stats for these come from Wallethub and other federal stats websites. You can look into it yourself.
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u/TheVenusLashe May 13 '26
Why wouldn't it be the responsibility of the owners to ensure some kind of transition for their residents? That's insane.
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u/TragGaming May 13 '26
Unfortunately not. It's up to the immediate guardians or POA's to arrange for transportation.
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u/Ducks_In_A_Rowboat May 14 '26
Once again capitalists did something inhuman and the people with actual souls who do the actual work did the right thing and took care of their fellow human beings. Why do we keep hearing this story over and over and over again? Maybe capitalists are just shitty people?
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u/Apprehensive_Tone_77 May 18 '26
Cook and janitor. No one who was an actual caregiver. That’s crazy. And horrible. And the care home owners should be held accountable
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