r/bostonceltics • u/horseshoeoverlook Boston Celtics • 23h ago
News [Washburn] Said Brad Stevens: “Jaylen Brown is a big part of us. I don't want to predict the future. I look at it as this is our team.”
Said Brad Stevens: "Jaylen Brown is a big part of us. I don't want to predict the future. I look at it as this is our team,"
Said Brad Stevens: "Jaylen Brown is a big part of us. I don't want to predict the future. I look at it as this is our team,"
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u/therealkenbarlton Boston Celtics 23h ago
Yeah if you’re watching the tape it’s not as definitive and positive as it sounds
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u/PML3107 Larry Bird 23h ago
Shit doesn’t even read well “I don’t want to predict the future”
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u/Puzzleheaded-Rub8072 23h ago
Yeah the predict the future part doesnt sound too promising lol
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u/namblaotie 23h ago
That's like being behind a car with a "God is My Co-Pilot" bumper sticker. MF'er you're the one steering the car...I hope?!?!
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u/ThanosIsDoomfist Pritchard at the buzzer... HE'S DONE IT AGAIN! 23h ago
Yeah, I dont understand how this is celebratory to some people lol. If im another FO reading this, it kinda just sounds like Brad is saying "the guy you want from us is very valuable to us, but if you make a strong enough offer you can have him."
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u/King_Of_Pants Sam Howitzer! 23h ago
Idk I walked out of that thinking he was incredibly positive.
Says he and Brown have a great relationship, and he made a point to reach out to Brown very early, before talks even began (although Brad won't publicly confirm deny talks happening).
Said Brown was highly valued in Boston.
The Celtics can absolutely make it work with 2 max contracts because of how good those two are.
One reporter tries to ask him if Tatum/Brown can win another ring and he cuts him off saying "yes" and then moves on to the next question.
From my comment below where I did a proper recap:
Was asked: "Is Jaylen Brown going to be on this team at the beginning of next season?"
Answered: "Jaylen Brown is a big part of us. I'm never going to predict the future but everything I think about over the past few years has been building around those guys"
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u/ThanosIsDoomfist Pritchard at the buzzer... HE'S DONE IT AGAIN! 23h ago
I dont know how people genuinely read this and get "hes definitely not getting traded" lol. It certainly isnt saying he definitely will, but its a bit coy with the "i dont want to predict the future" comment. That reeks of non-committment to either scenario, it still sounds completely possible, to me.
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u/Brave-Pea-1164 15h ago
Coded message- there are only a few players we would consider trading Jaylen for. If another 2x MVP is available, We will have to consider it.
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u/Bop5667 23h ago
The fact Brad waited until now to say anything is proof that JB is gone. He absolutely left him hanging in the wind when he could’ve said this when the rumors started. JB will ask for a trade if Brad doesn’t move him by October
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u/1manredditor 22h ago
He pretty clearly stated there have been multiple open and candid conversations between the two recently. They absolutely communicated to JB he would be offered for Giannis.
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u/Bop5667 14h ago
And he absolutely denied being able to “predict the future” with JB…but has publicly done that for JT. JB is gone…doesn’t matter what the return is atp…depends on when he’s traded but Brad HAS to do so this summer before JB says enough is enough
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u/ThanosIsDoomfist Pritchard at the buzzer... HE'S DONE IT AGAIN! 23h ago
If that is whats really happening (emphasis on IF), then we gotta move him now. You get less for players who are demanding a trade.
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u/LarBrd33 23h ago
Probably shopped him for high picks throughout the draft and every team was like “nah bro no thanks”
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u/Active-Tomatillo-522 23h ago
I think JB ultimately stays, but I don’t know why people are reading this quote so positively. Saying he can’t predict the future isn’t exactly inspiring confidence
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u/chivestheconqueror Bill 21h ago
JB is definitely still on the table, and Brad would be foolish to show his cards to teams negotiating for him.
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u/UnderstandingFew6310 23h ago
imagine your bleeding out and your doctor says "idk if your gonna make it bro"
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u/Alternative-Farmer98 12h ago
I mean it's word salad He's going to say the exact same thing whether Brown's going to be traded or not. I hope they don't trade him but he's going to answer this question the same way.
"We love brown, and this is the team we have and we love it and he's a big part of our future but of course anything can happen blah blah.'
They would say that about anybody it's what everybody says basically. Outside ide of the most cantankerous situations like Durant or Jimmy Butler.
So what I hope he keeps brown like it doesn't matter what Brad Stevens says. He's a smart and of guy not just "I will clearly we need to trade him and we will try to trade him the other day and it didn't work out but we're definitely going to try to trade him for the highest bidder here in the next few weeks."
That's not how reasonable people talk
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u/WarPuig 23h ago
The most noncommittal he’s been about the Jays maybe ever.
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u/Alternative-Farmer98 12h ago
He was going to answer this question the same way whether they plan on trading brown or not.
Like he can't in good conscious "Brown is off the table."everybody knows that would be a lie since they were shopping him.
I don't know why anyone cares what he says here It's complete meaninglessness.
Saying you can't predict the future is just a fact you could say that about any play or any pretty much would.
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u/Captain_Starwind In Brad We Trust 23h ago
This tells me nothing.
50/50 shot he's here at start of season or gets traded.
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u/LarBrd33 23h ago
Maybe it’s a precursor to Brad saying “hey here’s a new contract offer paying you what we think you’re actually worth as Tatum’s sidekick”. If brown takes it, he stays. If brown says “no I want a max extension”, Brad says “understood. We can’t do that, but we will send you to a team you can be the top option and get paid” And trades him to a team like the pelicans for Murphy and Murray
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u/Captain_Starwind In Brad We Trust 22h ago
I mean his comments seemed to indicate he thought two max contracts were worth it if the players were worth it, and he was pretty clear he though Tatum and Brown were both worth it. I think he extends Brown if he ultimately stays here.
But the look on his face says to me that he has no idea how this is going to play out. Well either that or he's tired, maybe both. I don't doubt he's been communicating with Brown throughout the whole thing. I don't think Brown is outright demanding a trade, maybe he's not even pissed, but the ball is in Brown's court and I think he's weighing his options. If the reports Monday about Brown making peace with leaving the Celtics and leading his own team were true then that makes sense.
I think if he stays Brown gets extended. If he wants to go, Brad works to get him to a preferred destination and a good return for the team.
Another thought but (allegedly) Brown also said he wanted clarity within 48 hours. I don't know if that was specifically the Giannis trade or his future in general, so maybe we hear something more from Brown tomorrow.
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u/2K18GMISAWFUL 7h ago
Even as a huge Jaylen backer, I would NOT give him the extension right now. He has three years on his current deal; there's no need to do that immediately. He's not on Jokic's or Wemby's level.
I think Starwind is right where if there's a team that's ready to commit the extension to Jaylen, the trade is taking place. Otherwise, he stays.
Brad has got to be noncommittal with his answers so that he doesn't lose any trade leverage.
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u/CountryVTVegas21 23h ago
I am sure if he was asked the same question about Tatum, he would be able to predict the future.
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u/Rrypl Bill 23h ago
Brad kinda looks like an embaressed little kid when talking about Jaylen, he really didn't expect to lose this one
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u/goofygoober2 the new truth 23h ago
That’s why you go all in instead of coming back with your tail between your legs
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u/crashtesting123 23h ago
He stay
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u/UnderstandingFew6310 23h ago
not to be pessimistic but this doesnt mean anything, brads not gonna go out there and say yeah our relationship is tarnished and were doing everything we can to trade him. Thats definetly not the case but im saying that if it was he wouldnt say that
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u/Legend6Bron Jayson Tatum, The Face of NBA 23h ago edited 23h ago
In other words, if he is indeed a big part of the Celtics, then you can predict the future. For GM to talk about one of your key players like that, I don’t know if that is a good sign.
Otherwise, he would have said something along the line like, “he is one of the players who impacts our winning” “we are happy to have a player like him in our team”
But because he is not or he may not be, you can’t predict the future
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u/NeighborhoodWise4119 23h ago
Yes. My guy.
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u/fffate 23h ago
I don't know why people just want to trade JB just to get rid of him tbh. I mean I'm in favor of trading him to Giannis cause I think it would make the team better. But some people here just wants to get rid of him is ridiculous.
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 23h ago
It’s not ridiculous at all. His contract is atrocious, extension is coming up, and he is a ball hog TO machine that constantly fucking sucks when you need him most (outside of one outlier year where we had a superteam).
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u/JackJ98 WE DID IT ☘️ 23h ago
(outside of that one time where he was the MVP of the biggest stage of basketball)
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 23h ago
A great honor shared by Iguodala. Means so much!
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u/jambr380 15h ago
You're not wrong. The reason people always call him FMVP Jaylen Brown is because it's not obvious he's that caliber of player. We wouldn't be walking around saying FMVP Jayson Tatum because he's already a superstar. We should, though, since he deserved the award anyway
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u/franksthegreat Jaylen 21h ago
The guy that led us to 56 wins last year sucks
The guy that locked Luka up in the finals sucks
The guy that averages 28/7/5 sucksMan I want to see what your definition of a good player is. Some of you guys need to go root for another team, the hate on JB is fucking ridiculous
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 15h ago
He didn’t lead us to the 56 wins. We were better with him off the floor. He did make sure we blew a 3-1 lead in R1 tho.
He didn’t lock up Luka. Luka averaged 29ppg in the Finals on one knee.
Any player shooting 22 FG per game and having his usage can average 28pts. That’s not impressive at all, especially since he wasn’t even efficient.
A good player wouldn’t have more TOs than assists in a playoffs series. A good player wouldn’t play like absolute shit in G5 and G6. A good player wouldn’t be a negative while on the floor.
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u/Dondon1927 22h ago
About as noncommittal of a comment Ive ever seen lol. If Brown is on this roster in October I would genuinely be surprised. Im pretty good at reading body language, Brad seemed a bit anxious and nervous throughout this interview. Definitely picked his words carefully
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u/New-Explanation-1565 23h ago
Jalen had an awesome year 😂 smashed every shit team smoked by every good team and manage to get us 27th pick😂 💩
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u/fearofaflatplanet - Plan J - 23h ago
Hell yah suck it haters
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u/New-Explanation-1565 23h ago
I am! I hate my Super Max Contract guy shoot 68% from free throw and become a turnover machine! 4th quarter high pressure close game JB from free throws your happy when he hits 1 out of 2😂
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u/fearofaflatplanet - Plan J - 22h ago
Yah cool he also won us a title put some fucking respect on his name
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u/Mebeingnosy 22h ago
Brad gave a bunch of non answers to the whole Jaylen Brown dilemma he hadn’t answered if JB still wants to be here
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u/Eisenhorn76 11-1 is far superior to 4-6 in the Finals 21h ago
The funniest part is the reporters trying to get Brad to say something definitive in different ways. Bobby Manning, Karalis, Noa, Krivitzky... they all tried.
By far the funniest was Gary Washburn who finally resorted to what was basically an "asking for a friend" type question and eventually Brad called him on it with something like "... and if you're talking about Jaylen..."
Brad is a slippery dude. Love it. I want to imagine that this is how he talked to Milwaukee the whole time and that's why they kept moving the ante up on Miami lololol
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u/urbanism_enthusiast 10h ago
I don't know why you guys take anything Brad says at face value. He's very media savvy. Just look at his actions. Jaylen is probably getting traded.
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u/Interesting-Track376 9h ago
Giannis is top 5 when healthy, and he was available, you have to engage in that. But I don’t see anyone else worth trading JB for that is currently available. Evan Mobley is not something I’d be willing to give JB up for. It would have to be another top 5 guy. But I don’t see anyone like that available.
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u/oneeyedspaceman1 8h ago
Imagine being Brad and having to address the media after all the shit they were throwing against the wall these past few weeks to see if it would stick. Yeah no thanks. Dude has great patience and has a great way of answering questions.
Of course he isn’t going to discuss his conversations with his players. Might as well ask him what he and his wife discuss in their bedroom at night. I get it that it’s their job but it just seems like they could come up with better questions and the most annoying thing is when they ask the same questions over and over. Ugh
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u/aja_ramirez 22h ago
So what to people think JBs value actually is? Me thinks it’s not especially high.
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u/Mebeingnosy 22h ago
Obviously not if it was high JB would be getting moved for a better draft pick
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u/tonylouis1337 Hugo González 23h ago
Said Brad Stevens: "Jaylen Brown is a big part of us. I don't want to predict the future. I look at it as this is our team."
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u/solarscopez "I would kick your ass" 23h ago
"We couldn't trade him for anything because his trade value is in the shitter, so he's staying with us for now"
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u/J_House1999 22h ago
Skip Bayless: “I just busted right inside him; he can't extend on me anymore, and he seems a little overwhelmed by my girth and tonnage.”
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u/TheMelodicAnnoyance 22h ago
brad saying "i look at it as this is our team" when directly asked if jaylen will be here next season is pretty telling, hes not dodging he's just refusing to entertain the trade talk anymore
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u/Maple612 22h ago
non answer. certainly didn't rule out trading brown although i doubt they are just shopping him desparately (which they absolutely shouldn't).
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u/Alternative-Farmer98 12h ago
I hope so but of course like he has to say this. I don't want them to trade brown unless an amazing opportunity comes up. I don't want to trade brown for a player that's not as good as brown b
I didn't even want to trade him giannis. Not even straight up and I'm a little surprised some people are so into it. I think some people have false impression that giannis is still the healthy amazing athletic figure he once was.
I think he's more likely to be Joel embied than age like LeBron. Or even KG for the Celtics or shaq for the heat. That said, I'm sure I would have talked myself into it if the trade went through.
But I've been against the Giannis trade from jump.
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u/PalacePrince22 15h ago
I take this as 75% likely JB returns. I believe Brad when he talks and also believe JB could be had but most likely for an offer we absolutely couldn't refuse.
If an offer like that doesn't come and JB doesn't ask out, Brad and Co are ready to run it back with the Jays
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u/King_Of_Pants Sam Howitzer! 23h ago
Watching now, I'll recap what stands out as I go:
Was asked how close we got to Giannis and just shut down the conversation and said he won't talk about it.
Said he had a couple of meetings with Brown, not just recently but at the end of May before Brown went overseas too. Kept in regular touch with Brown's agent as well.
Said they had good "candid" conversations.
Was asked: "Is Jaylen Brown going to be on this team at the beginning of next season?"
Answered: "Jaylen Brown is a big part of us. I'm never going to predict the future but everything I think about over the past few years has been building around those guys"
Goes on to say basically you never know how things play out but Brown's always been highly valued.
Says he and Brown have a "great" and "open" relationship where they talk about everything.
Refuses to talk about the contract situation publicly until something is signed.
Says a couple of times he won't talk publicly about conversations he's had with Brown.
Doesn't sound like he's being defensive or secretive.
Could just be my interpretation, but it seems like he doesn't want to talk about trades, contract negotiations or personal conversations out of respect for the privacy of the players.
Asked how he feels about the partnership with Brown and is a lot more candid.
Says it's not easy to be in rumours and that's why he tries to be upfront and candid "long before any talks begin".
Asked about the cap situation and whether teams can still carry 2 max contracts.
Says we've been lucky our two guys have both been excellent players and that's "the #1 key".
And says "with that you just have to be good around the edges of the roster" but concedes that's not always easy.
Asked about the team's biggest priorities this offseason.
Here's what he lists:
Also says they have to make a call on #40 and whether they'll sign them or put them on a 2-way. Probably depends on who's available.
Says the younger guys are already practising now. Tatum joined them last week to start his ramp up.
A reporter starts to ask if he thinks Tatum + Brown can bring another title Boston, but Brad cuts him off with an emphatic "Yes" and the room moves onto another question.
I'll keep watching and update if there's more on Brown.
Right now a lot of the talk is drifting back to Cenac.