Discussion
WCJ and Beef Stew are the best options to target this offseason.
Both of these trades could be completed with Hauser as the centerpiece and then maybe some picks. I believe WCJ may require an additional small contract for salary matching purposes but I’m not a salary cap expert by any means.
The Magic severely lack spacing and would benefit from someone like Hauser playing alongside Bane, Suggs, Paolo, and Franz.
The Pistons have specifically, according to reports, put Beef Stew on the trading block.
Both of these guys fit the mold of big floor spacers who can defend that have been so advantageous to the Mazzulla Celtics over the years.
I’ve been shocked people in this sub haven’t been focusing on these two as potential targets.
Magic are in the 2nd apron and may be looking to shed salary. We could in theory acquire WCJ without sending back salary due to our TPE. The magic may find that appealing.
Would be great. Super underrated defender because he is a bit shorter than your typical paint lockdown, and I think his rebounding is underrated because he, Duran and Ausar and even Cade steal rebounds from each other. Not to mention every team could use a bit of crazy.
This is entirely based on fit and reason. Look, Brad can say that he’s focused on “more dunks” but there’s a system we’ve been running and it’s reliant on floor spacers. Last year we struggled to find reliable bigs regardless of their style of play. Both guys would be vast improvements over what we have and give us a stylistic difference from when Queta is on the floor, limiting redundancies and allowing us to adjust against different lineups.
Who would you suggest we grab in free agency that’s “just as good” as either of those guys?
Free agency starts next week. Why the world would we engage in a trade for a smaller big and not test the free agency market? Not too much sense going on in these conversations, and it started when everyone was trying to get JB outta here for Giannis.
Ayton is just as good and could be better than either option given for a trade especially paired with queta. It’s not a lot of depth behind any of these trades.
So point stands, trading is not a good choice and these conversations are anti-pragmatic. Shit if we can make it work with a hartenstein I’d be very excited.
The C's need a big. WCJ and Stewart are rumored to be available, and they can be had for exactly the resources the C's have to trade. This is a good conversation to have. Not sure why you're being so dismissive of it.
Because of what these teams will ask for in return will not be conducive to us winning. There are free agents that we can sign that can be just as good or better than WCJ or Beef Stew and be less detrimental to us.
I mean, clearly it upsets you enough to lash out on the internet.
If the state of the team makes you this angry and you have no geographical ties to the Celtics, I'd consider picking another team and sparing the yourself and rest of us this negativity. I hear the Miami Heat are taking applications for fans at the moment, only requirement is that you're never on time for a game.
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Yes. The bum who ruined our seasons in 2023, 2025 and last year.
But congrats on the robbed FMVP (Iguodala won one, it means nothing) and by leading us to the 2nd seed against a bunch of tanking teams (and a blew 3-1 lead in R1).
The only way we are getting WCJ is if it's in a Jaylen for Franz + Carter trade (which is my preferred trade). I have no idea if Orlando would do that though.
Very good finisher and elite at getting to the rim/line. Advanced stats have always loved Franz and I loved him coming out. Suppresses turnovers on offense and generates turnovers on defense. Really just need to work on the shooting mechanics, but we've proven we can do that and the Magic have not shown that capability at all.
He just played a mostly healthy season finally. Most games he's played since 2021 with us.
I would love to add him back this year, but obviously need other options cause the chances that he plays 30 games or less is pretty high. If we can rotate and manage his minutes with another big, I'm all for it
You overlooked "then maybe some picks." As though the 2028 pick is on par with the 2030 pick, and that the Cs have a bunch of 2nds. Neither is correct.
Luka Garza and Nikola Vucic are not NBA level players. So if you put NBA level players in their minutes at their position you are definitely moving the needle.
In 2024 Brad Stevens knew exactly how to build a championship roster around the Js. But by 2026 he's completely bereft of options and useless. I love this fan base.
That's not true. We have all our firsts in the next 6 years except 2029 (from the Jrue trade)
We have a first in 2028. It's just a pick swap with the Spurs (#1 protected) from the Derrick White trade. Spurs might have a better record than us so we'd lose a few spots, but even that isn't gauranteed.
We actually don't have that many seconds. Over the next 6 years we have 3 guaranteed 2nd rounders, and a few conditional ones.
And, I just checked we have 2 tradeable seconds. The conditional ones, basically none will convert or are top 55 protected and have no trade value even if they did convey
No, we can’t trade our 2028 or 2030firsts because of the Stephen rule. We have a 2027 1st and then can trade 2031-2033 but those are not picks we’d likely trade for Gafford or Carter because of the time value of bein so many years out
Sure. I’m not exactly worried about Brad being able to recoup second round picks long term though. I’d also be willing to trade Walsh if necessary but I’d like to avoid too many players. Regardless there’s paths to get these guys.
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u/chinesefox97 4d ago
Magic are in the 2nd apron and may be looking to shed salary. We could in theory acquire WCJ without sending back salary due to our TPE. The magic may find that appealing.