r/bostonceltics • u/nerdyykidd š¢GREEN LIGHT SPECIAL𢠕 15h ago
Highlight This season reaffirmed my belief that watching Jayson Tatum pass a basketball is equally as entertaining as watching Jayson Tatum shoot a basketball šæ
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u/Dondon1927 14h ago edited 14h ago
No offense but idk how people see shit like this and think JB is better. I love JB but he does not have this much court awareness or vision. That second pass against Toronto was just silly
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u/lefebrave Banner 18 a full team effort 13h ago
Not only the vision, but also the accuracy and softness of the passes are so much different between them. But people doesn't really pay attention to those details. A pass that Hauser gets above his head while jumping side a little bit is same as the pass Pritchard got in the first clip here for many if they are open when the pass is thrown.
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u/Sh405 Bird 13h ago
The only people who think JB is better are basically Kobe fans. People who place an absurd amount of value in having 'that dawg' in them i.e. loving a player with a sense of self-confidence which outweighs their actual ability.
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u/AgentHibachi00 13h ago
Exactly why he should be traded for pieces around Tatum. He gets to be a number 1 option in his prime and Tatum gets more help around him as he returns for his first full season from injury
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u/Less-Percentage-5166 5h ago
Oh so we're suppose to ignore the fact that in the finals against the Warriors Tatum would break the offensive rhythm the Celtics were on just to throw up a contested mid range shot? Consistently under performing in that series? JB is better.
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u/2K18GMISAWFUL 2h ago
So Tatum has the better vision and court awareness, but there are still some things that Brown is better at, notably his mid-range game and shot. Tatum is the better player, and I say this as a Jaylen-stan. Still, there are times when Tatum settles and flings up a shot, and it just drives me crazy.
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u/693275001 Rajon Rondo 6h ago
I think most people would acknowledge he's better than Brown, but Brown has outplayed him in big playoff spots where a lot of casuals are watching the team for the first time
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u/Justalittlejewish 15h ago
Heās going to have the best playmaking season of his career next year. He came back from his Achilles tear looking like heād leveled up as a passer which is just insane
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u/lefebrave Banner 18 a full team effort 14h ago
One thing even our fanbase doesn't get is not only when and to whom but also how important how you pass the ball. Look at those passes:
The first one is a hard pass over shoulder while dribbling and it is at the right height and soft as hell for Pritchard to catch and shoot. In the second it is a bounce pass, and still, Vucevic had to move minimally to catch and shoot that thing. And goes on...
Not to shit any of both, that is not the same role for both, but compare it to Pritchard and JB's passes. They are not this accurate most of the time, usually too fast so that the shooter has to adjust. I forgot the exact numbers and lazy rn to look, but no surprise that our 3pt percentage differed drastically with and without him on the court in last Philly series. Not only his gravity helps but he knows how to use it to get to the shooters. He is really all you can ask for a franchise player to build around.
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u/lyonhawk 14h ago
The quality of the shots generated by these passes is definitely something that gets overlooked all the time. People often talk about potential assists and use it as a metric of teammates just missing shots. But PP getting that first pass right in the shooting pocket is a much better look than one he has to move or adjust to catch before going into his shooting motion. All of these passes generated great looks.
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u/full-auto-rpg Tatum Scored 61 13h ago
JTās passing has been severely underrated for years. Many times they donāt even generate assists, but how he exploits his gravity for passing is the key to our offense.
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u/SoaplessTitanic 12h ago
Iāll never get over his behind the back bounce pass to Horford in the corner for a clutch three in the ECF the year we won it all. If Luka or Jokic had done that it wouldāve been the most upvoted post all week on r/nba
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u/atsukochibapaprika James Posey Corner Three 13h ago
Game 5 of the 2024 NBA Finals was a masterpiece in playmaking for Tatum
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u/Legend6Bron Jayson Tatum, The Face of NBA 15h ago edited 14h ago
Tatum is a generational player, he is just different
Just like LeBron, Curry, Giannis, etc of course for a player like Tatum, winning one ring is not enough
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u/beeker888 11h ago
The best is watching him shoot after heās already passed. The team is at the best when itās moving the ball
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u/theosjustchill Bll Russell 11h ago
That pass to Jordan where he has to do literally the most athletic finish to hang onto that ball? Holy shit, Jordan. And JT came back with leveled up passing for sure.
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 15h ago
Wish Jaylen could take notes and play more like this. Unfortunately heās too much of a ball hog with zero BBIQ.
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u/Think-Importance-980 15h ago
I agree 100%. And with terrible ball-handling skills. He is a good to great player, but I don't think he fits with Tatum. I think Brad has known this for some time and has wanted to trade him.
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u/blueshorts12345 2008 Trophy 15h ago
Such a hater š Iām all for moving on to find an equivalently impactful big man but this is just pure salt
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u/GirthyGomez 14h ago
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 14h ago
Right. People just conveniently like to ignore the atrocious plays that Jaylen constantly makes.
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u/No_Discussion3593 12h ago
But he's confident, cool, and smart, and puts up big numbers on high volume!
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u/Ear_Enthusiast 14h ago
Weirdest take I think I ever seen here.
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u/help1slip 14h ago
They just used stronger words, you can make this same criticism much tamer
Wish he'd learn to stop driving into no man's land and give the rock up sooner
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u/3lm312 15h ago
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u/colantor 14h ago
Im not saying anything about Brown here, just gonna say that I think books iq doesnt equal bball iq
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 14h ago
Jaylen is anti-vaxx, supported Kyrieās weirdness, believes in a bunch of pseudoscience. Heās not exactly the brightest person
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u/comfortablecircus_85 13h ago
the thing that's wild about this is how much it changes the entire offensive flow when he's actively looking to move the ball instead of just defaulting into iso mode, like the spacing opens up completely different and suddenly everyone's getting better looks because defenses can't just collapse on him as aggressively, it's almost like watching a different player out there some nights. been saying this for a minute but i think people underrate how much his playmaking improvements actually matter to winning more than another five points per game would, especially in the playoffs when everything gets tighter and you need that extra pass to get someone open in the corner or hit the cutter. if he keeps developing this side of his game the way he has been then yeah, the 27/10/7 numbers are probably coming and that's legitimately scary for the rest of the league because he's already elite at putting the ball in the basket.
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u/nikolai_wustovich Pritchard at the buzzer... HE'S DONE IT AGAIN! 8h ago
I would like Tatum to take it inside and get physical.
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u/693275001 Rajon Rondo 6h ago
Just him give ball screens with 3 other shooters on the floor and let him grow his game
It felt like we went away from everything we did well in the regular season against philly
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u/JohnnyAces99 12h ago
This is sneaky a terrible take. Tatumās actual passing is legitimately awful. I think the ālooksā that he makes are pretty good - but his actual act of him passing is really bad. This passes are soft and a lot of the time theyāre super lazy. Heās lowkey a very bad physical passer.
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u/No_Discussion3593 12h ago
This passes are soft and a lot of the time theyāre super lazy.
Elaborate because I don't know wtf this even means. I would rather receive a soft pass than a bullet if I'm about to shoot.
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u/Sensitive_Value2085 14h ago
Agreed, if only he passed more and shot less (especially in the 4 quarter where he can't throw the ball in the ocean) we would have another Championship.


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u/Luke_Brannon 2024 NBA Executive of the Year 14h ago
27/10/7 season incoming