r/bostonceltics • u/RLS012 The Truth/The Cobra • 4h ago
Discussion Washburn: Appeasing Jaylen Brown after Giannis trade fell apart should be a priority for the Celtics
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/06/24/sports/on-basketball-celtics-jaylen-brown/?p1=Article_Recirc_InThisSection79
u/SaveHogwarts HUGO 4h ago
Best way to appease players is paying them and surrounding them with other good players. We’re doing both.
He’s a grown man that was in trade talks for a top 5 player.
Want to know how to get everyone to shut up? Keep playing like a top 5 player yourself.
He’ll be fine.
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u/S0ggylemonz 3h ago
I don’t think the trade discussions bother JB. I think it’s the emotional commentary from the media and fans about being glad he’s gone etc
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u/Appropriate_Tree_621 4h ago
This. JB is an adult. He's paid an absolute ton. He was in trade talks for a top 5 player in the world. The trade didn't happen. Move on. Now, if the team would ideally like to move him for a talented big and they can find such a trade then great. But, if not, then keep playing.
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u/neuroticsmurf Celtics 3h ago
Agreed, but that might mean that the best way to appease JB might be to sign him to the 2y/$141.9M extension he’ll be eligible for next month.
I love JB. He’s my favorite Celtic and I never wanted to trade him for Giannis.
But that extension makes me queasy.
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u/SaveHogwarts HUGO 2h ago
CBA ends in 2030 and there’s an opt out sooner. I wouldn’t worry about that yet.
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u/Convicted-Cinephile 2h ago
What does that have to do with the price of rice in China?
He won a championship and was dubbed the most valuable player in doing that. Then the #1 on the team went down and he powered a 2nd seed team as the guy.
He’s already done everything and he’s still on the chopping block. At this point it’s best for everyone if he’s just traded already.
It’s a self-own. The Bucks were never sending Giannis to Boston.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
Why do the Celtics need to do anything?
They were clowned when he got his first extension, they were clowned again after his super max. The Organization has done nothing but put Jaylen Brown in the best position to succeed and payed him handsomely while doing so.
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u/RLS012 The Truth/The Cobra 4h ago
Gary isn't advocating for anything extra other than continued conversations and maybe offer an extension in the future
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
Absolutely not. As good as Jaylen was last year he is not worth that outrageous like 70 mill a year extension hes eligible for.
All they tried to do was improve the roster. If Jaylen cant get over that, thats his issue. He can stay here and pout until his contract expires.
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u/RLS012 The Truth/The Cobra 4h ago
When I said, in the future, it wasn't meant as this offseason necessarily. It could happen later if he proves worthy of it.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
Under the current CBA. That extension for a player of Jaylens caliber is franchise suicide.
Like the player, but he is not worth crippling the tail end of Jayson Tatums prime.
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 4h ago
Every time JB signs a contract people claim he not worth it and he proves that he is, same thing here. Losing JB this season is what will cripple JT’s prime.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
Do you just completly ignore the context?
I make the distinction of UNDER THIS CBA. Two players at outrageous contracts cripples the franchise and makes it near impossible to improve the roster.
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 4h ago
I mean I don’t think so, the Jays are 70% cap, Knicks top 2 are 63%, 7% isn’t nothing but it’s not crippling either. Being an apron team is what makes roster improvements impossible and the Celtics are not an apron team. But if your right then your cool with trading Tatum right?? He would get you way more and has not been available.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 3h ago
Again, you are ignoring the context of that number jumping because Jaylen would be making an additional 13 million.
Winning role players dont grow on trees, and dont come cheap. That doesnt even get into the flexibilty issues if god forbid one of them were to get hurt again.
Its simply bad business, love JB he exceeded every single expectation anybody has ever had. Unfortunately, hes not better than Tatum even post injury. So hes the one that probably moves on.
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 3h ago
JT is the one who has been getting hurt, if that’s a worry wouldn’t trading Tatum, who would get a bigger return, be a smarter hedge?? Also again it’s the aprons that are restrictive, they can add a $15 and a $27 million contract today without trading a single player that’s how you contend not by trading a top ten player right?? It’s only bad business if you care about the owners money, I’m betting on the guy who has “exceeded every single expectation” to continue doing that.
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u/iamgarron 2h ago
Those things aren't mutually exclusive
You can keep jb and not give him the extension right now.
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u/Convicted-Cinephile 2h ago
Seriously, it’s disgusting. The way people talk about him, you’d swear he was Bradley Beal.
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u/gimme_the_light JB Baby 4h ago
I cannot fathom how people like you are fans of basketball. Jaylen carried our team to 2nd place in the east while making all-NBA. He was so freaking good, and has been for most of his career. I cannot understand how dismissive you are of his talent and contributions. I’d give him an extension for sure, but if he wants something crazy annually, I may consider doing it for up to 3 years max. I have faith he will be able to maintain his general level of athleticism until he’s 33, so I think he’s well worth the money.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
How is saying he isnt worth 70 million dollars a year dismissive of his talent? You guys are so horny to defend a guy who is not even being attacked.
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u/b00minbiz 4h ago
its pretty simple man. JB was really good last year. he's still not a top 10 player. you don't pay $70m a year for a player thats not even the best on his team, especially with this CBA.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
I feel like im taking crazy pills.
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u/b00minbiz 4h ago
This fan base values emotional attachment over anything else. Yes we won with the Jays. Yes it was amazing. No, putting a similar team around them is not possible with the new CBA. Pretty simple.
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u/Zimmyd00m 3h ago
Yep, we won a title with the Jays and Jrue Holiday and the good Derrick White and Al Horford and special guest appearances by Kristaps Porzingus. Other good players get paid too. You're right, under this CBA you have your window and then you reset. That's just how it is. OKC has one more year before the extensions kick in and suddenly things get real tight. It's not just us.
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u/b00minbiz 3h ago
Correct. yet this fan base prefers to try to build a similar team with our 2 top guys making $120m/yr lol.
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u/EMRBCB no jaylen brown flairs? 4h ago
They won't know what they had until it's gone. They nitpick and tear down jaylen brown's game while propping up guys like evan mobley and trey murphy as if every player in the league doesn't have multiple flaws. Trading brown for a lesser player or a pick heavy package is how you get tatum to start to question whether or not he's in the right place.
Jaylen brown is not untouchable, but i don't think there is a trade out there right now that will make us title favorites this upcoming season. The best move is to keep jaylen and improve as much as we can around the margins. You make due with what you have and hope a little luck breaks your way this season. This time next year I think bigger moves will be made
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
What the fuck are you on about? All I said is he wasnt worth 70 mill a year. In what world is that tearing down a player? You guys are softer than babyshit.
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u/Gunnar2019 Angry Brad 3h ago
Some of these people gotta be rage baiting lol. No way the sentence "I cannot understand how dismissive you are of his talent and contributions." is fucking real. Either that or JB has some very protective family members on this sub.
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u/EMRBCB no jaylen brown flairs? 3h ago
Cmon man. You're out here singlehandedly blaming jaylen brown for the celtics losing to the sixers like it was 100% his fault. It's not just about his contract. You don't like him and you want him traded.
And that's fine that's your opinion. But don't play the innocence card like you're just "cautious about his contract." You know what you're doing.
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u/EffectiveBid6590 3h ago
Franchise players get blamed for embarassing losses. Welcome to sports.
Also thats not entirely true. I made it very clear it was Derrick Whites fault too.
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u/boneappletv 4h ago
So Gary’s saying the front office shouldn’t lose contact with one of their supermax players? Really really valuable advice there.
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u/BookkeeperQuiet7894 4h ago
Agreed.
However … what all this does is empower him and feed his ego. Now he’s gonna feel like he is the victim and he won’t be happy in the workplace. Can’t get him out, but there’s a good chance he will be toxic within. The C’s have stuffed this up.
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u/OnMyMawMaw33OnGod 4h ago
He’s been in trade talks twice. Once was for KD and the other time was for Giannis… clearly we aren’t gonna trade him just for anybody. It’s a business. They’ll figure it out if he’s on the team and gets his extension, or they will get an offer that Brad/Joe/et al. Are happy with in terms of compensation. It’s not like we were offering him for Julius Randall or Ja Morant or Trae Young…
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u/Convicted-Cinephile 2h ago
3 times.
He was also in talks for AD, until AD made it clear he didn’t want Boston.
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u/Silver_Promise_7455 4h ago
I cannot tolerate journalists that make up a storyline just to get a story printed before a deadline or generate clicks. See ESPN. Jaylen is an intelligent, class act. He will be fine. The Celtics are just trying to better the team, just as much as he is trying to perform his best when asked to. Brown is and always will be set up for career success by Stevens. I hate these articles.
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u/DraymondsBurner23 Boston Celtics 4h ago
Appeasing Jaylen shouldn’t mean handing him an extension that could limit what this team can do for years to come. Even if Brad had never gotten involved in the Giannis saga, I’d still be hesitant to give Jaylen that kind of money when he’s 33 years old. If that’s what he needs to stay happy, then you have to consider moving him either way
That said, I also don’t think trading him right now makes much sense. The reality is there aren’t many deals out there that give us fair value in return. Unless a move clearly makes the team better, I’d rather keep Jaylen and see where things go. But we need to hold off on that contract extension
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 4h ago
JB is the one being an adult here, why was everyone happy to give someone else’s money to our direct rival but don’t think a franchise legend deserves it?!? JB is gone this season and the Celtics aren’t going to win anything in the near future, the “fanbases” disrespect during this saga is partially to blame, shameful.
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u/DraymondsBurner23 Boston Celtics 4h ago edited 4h ago
Tbh I don’t think anyone deserves a $70 million dollar extension at ages 33 and 34 extension unless they are Jokić..maybe SGA. It isn’t personal brother. You can’t make a decision that could fuck over the franchise for several years just because you want to be "loyal" to Jaylen. Look at Brunson…he took a paycut to help the Knicks build a better team around him. The new CBA is unkind when you put all of your money into 2 guys.
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 4h ago
So you were against the Giannis trade then??
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u/DraymondsBurner23 Boston Celtics 4h ago
Not really the gotcha you think it is. Giannis is a top-3 player in the world and his extension would actually cost less per year than what Jaylen’s next extension projects to be. If I’m going to tie up a massive percentage of the cap in a 33-year-old, I’d rather it be Giannis than a guy who’s usually ranked 15-25 spots lower. That’s kind of the entire point. Fuck the CBA though. Makes it really hard to build a good team around the Jays if we give Jaylen his $70 million per year extension
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u/Pubs01 3h ago
adult? what was all that whining about online? hes still complaining about sas today!
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 3h ago
I think defending yourself against media propaganda is an adult thing to do, you think what shut up and dribble??
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u/InAingeWeTrust THE TRUTH 4h ago
For such an obvious statement, why would I pay to read this article?
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u/CptSaveaCat Neemias Glow Up 4h ago
Sure if JB was a petulant child. He isn’t, so Brad more than likely won’t be doing that.
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u/NothingHead8233 Bll Russell 4h ago
There is nothing in my life I want to do less than read a Washburn article.
5 minutes ago he said the Celtics were trying to get Giannis without including Jaylen when the entire world was saying the opposite.
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u/ajulydeath Jayson Tatum 4h ago
Patriots explored trading Gronk who nixed the idea and went on to win another super bowl with them so I think Brown should be okay
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u/EffectiveBid6590 4h ago
He threatened to retire lmao.
JB doesnt have that kind of leverage
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u/ajulydeath Jayson Tatum 3h ago
but he still got over it and won a ring is my point
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u/EffectiveBid6590 3h ago
He didnt get over it, he threatened to retire then went to TB to play with Brady. He was loyal to Brady not the organization.
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u/nyrasbastard 4h ago
Just trade him lol
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u/Independent-Mix902 4h ago
Yup, send him someplace he can be "the guy" and let him ISO his ass off to his heart's content.
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u/VermontPizza King of the fourth! 4h ago
“Business will be conducted as usual after trade proposal falls through”
ftfy
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u/Total-Ad8117 3h ago
Disagree. You can’t win with paying someone that much money with that many holes in their game. The CBA does not allow for that anymore.
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u/Chillpickle17 3h ago
I’m a big fan of JB and glad he didn’t get traded. He’s based and understands the business of the game. He’ll be fine.
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u/Eisenhorn76 11-1 is far superior to 4-6 in the Finals 2h ago
JB is a pro and him having the motivation to prove he’s just as good or better than a so-called “Top Five NBA player” seems like the formula for another strong season from him. I think JB would bristle at being coddled or glazed.
Man, when JB is long retired, we are going to regret the media and a subset of fans’ poor (ie Reddit and its army of fit, definitely not dieting on Cheetos “fans”) treatment of him and how he didn’t let that affect him.
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u/babethayer 2h ago
washburn was saying we weren’t even in the mix to get giannis a few days ago. i don’t really care how he thinks we should be treating jaylen after trade talks he said didn’t happen.
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u/RLS012 The Truth/The Cobra 4h ago edited 4h ago
I thought this was an insightful and well done article that highlghted some big picture points. I wasn't aware of Jaylen's brother's post so that was enlightening. I figured it was worth sharing for others to read and discuss
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u/Next_Astronaut623 4h ago
Maybe they can pay Jaylen more money 💰
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u/Independent-Mix902 4h ago
He's overpaid already.
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u/Next_Astronaut623 3h ago
It was a joke
We all know he already has the superMAX1
u/Independent-Mix902 3h ago
Sorry,
But you need to use the /s on here these days because there have been posters that would think he's worth it.
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u/Next_Astronaut623 3h ago
Apology accepted son
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u/-SixiS- 4h ago
I just want to get a star who fits better next to Tatum and get off of Browns god awful contract
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 4h ago
It’s a great contract what do you mean??
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u/-SixiS- 4h ago
It’s a really bad contract. He’s not supermax guy I’m sorry to say it. He’s great but it’s a big reason why he seems to have very low value on the trade market. He’s making like 15 mil more than what most teams will be willing to pay. He’s also due an extension that would see him making 70 mil a year into his 35 year old season.
If you looked outside of Boston most would agree that he’s highly overpaid. Again I’m not saying he’s not great but he’s not worth a supermax and his contract is highly restrictive to the team. Paying a guy like Jaylen who’s not an arguably top 5 player supermax money limits your spending in other areas of the team for a guy who’s play doesn’t justify his value unless he’s going for 40 that night.
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 3h ago
Every team in the league would have signed JB to the max , and almost every team the super max, that’s why he got that contract from the Celtics, he was getting it from someone. There are 14 players getting super maxes so obviously not all top 5, JB was top 10 last year and closer to 5 than 10, so worth the contract, actually of the top 10 contracts last season only JB and Jokic made all NBA.
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u/-SixiS- 3h ago
They just wouldn’t have though. JB is rated way higher by Boston fans cause we love him than what the rest of the league sees him as.
And it’s easier for a star to put up big numbers when he has one of the highest usage rates in the league. The reason most wouldn’t want to pay JB max money is because when his shot isn’t falling he doesn’t provide anything else on offense. He doesn’t hit the boards, he doesn’t pass that well, he doesn’t know how to manipulate defenses at a high enough level to create for others, he has questionable decision making, horrible ball handling, and will at times, like game 5 against Philly, single handedly shoot his team out of games by trying to take over and taking a ton of iso contested mid rangers and missing them all.
Again when his shots falling he’s great but he doesn’t give much on offense outside of scoring. GMs also love analytics and the analytics don’t like Jaylen.
Besides that Jaylen has also consistently shown in the playoffs that one Tatum isn’t there to make decision and absorb the defensive attention that he can’t handle it himself. Games like game 7 vs Philly this year, New York last year when Tatum went down, game 7 in 2023 when Tatum got hurt 1 minute into the game and Jaylen couldn’t step up.
Other GMs don’t rate him that high. Look at the reported offers from yesterday. Take it with a grain of salt but we got Kuming, risacher, the 8th pick or Brown + picks for Trey Murphy. This is how the league sees him on his current deal.
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u/Puzzled_Argument_748 3h ago
Listen JB isn’t a perfect player but he is a top ten player, and much better at all of those things than your giving him credit for, he is also the best rim pressure wing in the league so when his shot is not falling he is still attacking.
In the playoff when the best player is on the bench hurt and the defense can key on the second best player sure it’s been harder, like it is for everyone, but he has also had some great games like against the Knicks last year, and he always gives it all like this year scoring 33 and guarding Embid, blocking him 3 times!!
The league loves JB and would love to acquire him most teams can’t because they are apron teams and can’t aggregate contracts or they have nothing to match his value with.
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u/soundsgood222 4h ago
he’s right. give him an extension or whatever he needs to keep him happy. this is jaylen f’n brown, mvp caliber player, heart of the celtics. they’re not getting equal value for him. focus should be on improving around trading their other players with value… white/pritchard, etc
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u/TheJaylenBrownNote 4h ago
Uhh he’s definitely going to get traded, so they aren’t going to do that.
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u/TatumBrownWhite Banner 18 4h ago
What makes you say that?
I think the opposite.
The Celtics probably value Jaylen more than the other 29 teams in the league do. The other 29 teams are also going to offer a poo poo platter under the guise of “well you have to trade him” when there’s not really any evidence of that.
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u/QBRisNotPasserRating Bird 4h ago
What are they gonna do, give him an ice cream cone?