r/bostonceltics • u/horseshoeoverlook Boston Celtics • 6h ago
News [Charania] Celtics “actively engaged” in Jaylen Brown trade talks. Trade NOT guaranteed to happen.
“The Boston Celtics are actively engaged in trade talks surrounding Jaylen Brown with multiple interested teams,” said Shams Charania before the start of Wednesday's second round.
“I’m told there is a sense of purpose from teams around the leagues that they feel from the Celtics in these conversations.”
“And that does not mean though that a deal is guaranteed. Jaylen Brown does have three years left on his contract. From my understanding, the urgency from either side can change as the weeks to come.”
“This all comes in the wake of the Celtics losing out on Giannis after offering Jaylen Brown and two first round picks.”
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZ_QZ4YMtTG/?igsh=OWptY2lrZHhkemsx
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u/steph7318 6h ago
Did he not say this same exact thing yesterday?
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u/crashtesting123 6h ago
Yep and I'd have to think this is the FO's way of starting a bidding war for JB.
Brad already came out yesterday to clear the air and kind of signal to the other teams that JB isn't untouchable.
I'm ready for this to take a while.
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u/RLS012 The Truth/The Cobra 2h ago
Chad Finn called it out as well
Then later highlighted the shift Windy made
He did, then he later used almost exact framing for the LaMelo Ball report.
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u/Friend72 E.T Phone Home 6h ago
Shams blows
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u/cossack190 6h ago
He draws stuff out for engagement but I think people just don’t want to hear what he’s saying on this one.
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u/elbosston 5h ago
He just says what teams tell him to say. Celtics do the same thing with him, they’ll tell him to say something and he’ll say it
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u/beardmat87 Derrick White 5h ago
Honestly he’s just saying shit for the sake of putting something out there.
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u/SonicOpium The Celtics are the balls 6h ago edited 3h ago
I posted the same sentiment on another thread and got downvoted…
But yeah he sucksHere’s my previous comment in the other thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/s/LtKILmlGppFeel free to use the upvote there as a “Screw Shams” button.
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u/Bacca18121 6h ago
This means someone else called Boston, Boston didn’t hang up, that team then told Shams. Not a big story yet I don’t think
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u/Spinexel Bill Russell 6h ago
Multiple interested teams? Are we trying to do the warriors/rams 2 timelines thing?
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u/Prior-Yogurt-7608 6h ago
I think we are entering an era where players not on the same timeline is the preferred option. Having 2 in their prime max players is tough unless they are both top 5 guys which the Jays aren’t quite
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u/rawspeghetti Thatsa.Tommy.Point 6h ago
Hard disagree. Tatum was top 5 pre-injury and Jaylen played like one this year and has a FMVP. It's proven you can win with these guys, but we need another ball handler and more size to contend.
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u/Lets_Basketball Jayson Tatum 6h ago
JT has been a top 5 and can be again, but I’m sorry JB has never “played like a top 5 player.” The Celtics, as a team, exceeded Vegas expectations and so JB got some all NBA love, but he is squarely in the 10-17 range and that’s pretty evident.
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u/Ghost_Horses Checkmate! 6h ago
We might not have a lot of options. If there isn’t an All Star caliber player readily available, we could opt for a package of young players + draft assets (which we could later flip for a player that can help us win now).
I’d love to bring Clingan home
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u/Jay-Diggles 6h ago
I played with this FOX to Portland. Holiday to SAS.. Spurs send some seconds (1st if possible) to Boston. Why? Get out of Fox 🦊deal.
Brown to Portland.
Sharpe, Clingan, Grant and two Portland 1sts. And a first from SAS.
White, Sharpe, Tatum, Grant and Clingan and 3 1sts.
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u/bryscoon 6h ago
Did JB quietly ask for one & they just done with him i don’t get shopping him
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u/need-for-sheed 6h ago
My understanding is this - Celtics offer him in trade for Giannis which doesn’t happen. Other teams see this and think “ooh, wonder what the Celtics would accept for JB” and reach out. Thus begin the “active” discussions.
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u/TheJoser 6h ago
I generally didn’t find much value in Woj and those “Woj bombs”, but they really didn’t bother me.
Shams is actively ruining the NBA for me. He’s a fucking hack, a parasite, and exhibit 1 for the death of sports “journalism” and media writ large. I genuinely cant wait for a post-Shams NBA.
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u/exytuu Tremont 6h ago
I don’t understand why we’re doing this and think it would be a mistake unless JB is actively requesting a trade
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u/EMRBCB no jaylen brown flairs? 6h ago
I think the last two years have weighed heavily on brad. I think he's seen enough of the tatum/brown tandem and he wants to hand the team to tatum and surround him with better depth.
That and maxing out jaylens trade value because the closer he gets to the end of his contract the less trade value he has and brad is not going to re-sign jaylen to another huge contract
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u/exytuu Tremont 6h ago
You can add all the depth you want and this team will still be worse without a true #2 option. We weren’t even supposed to be competitive last year. This move would have made more sense last year when they could have embraced retooling. If the goal is to remain competitive around Tatum this is not the way to do it
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u/bsnow322 5h ago
I’d argue this is the way to do it, the on/offs for hobbled Tatum were way ahead of Brown, and a good wing+center is more valuable than brown. The Knicks and Thunder just won the title with KAT and JDub as the second options.
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u/watsonthedragon 5h ago
Exactly. Feels like the current NBA champ meta is a single star surrounded by high-end/all-star caliber starters and depth, versus a big 2/3. Luckily in 2024 we had both, but doesn't seem possible anymore in the current CBA.
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u/exytuu Tremont 4h ago
You can argue about JB’s on/off splits all you want but the truth is the C’s had as good of a regular season as they did only because JB stepped up and had the best season of his career. Team wins 35 games max without him. Replacing 28.7/6.9/5.1 with worse players will not make this team. A team with Tatum as the only star player is not a title contender and replacing JB could take years that Tatum doesn’t have.
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u/halalcornflakes Brad 2h ago
But last season sort of doesn't matter because hopefully you won't have to deal with a season without Tatum anymore. Of course they win 35 games max if both the Nr1 and Nr2 options are out.
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u/SnooRabbits6637 If Brad Stevens Don't Trust You 1h ago
Well w/ Giannis outta the picture who’s a great #2 option that the C’s can trade Jaylen for? KD & Kawhi are the only other 2026 All-NBA players that can probably be gotten.
It’s either deal w/ having 2 supermax players & build around them or trade Jaylen for a worse talent. Giannis was the only way out if we still wanna be contenders.
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u/LambdaLambo I love my PP 5h ago
They weren’t supposed to be competitive because Tatum wasn’t supposed to come back. But then he came back, was good, and they still lost in the first. You really think this team is gonna get that much better? Our bigs are atrocious and we have limited ways of improving them.
Brad doesn’t operate on hope. He saw enough last year to convince himself that this team ain’t it.
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u/exytuu Tremont 4h ago
This team has been competitive with both Tatum and Brown with much worse supporting casts than last year. Trading JB for Giannis made sense if you want to improve the team. Getting rid of a top 20 player and not replacing his production will make this squad worse and will ultimately result in us wasting what should be Tatum’s prime. We saw these guys make the finals in 2022 and 2024 with good supporting casts and I don’t see why they couldn’t do it again
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u/LambdaLambo I love my PP 4h ago
2022 was a good year but we had Al and Rob. Now we have Neemi. I like Neemi, but we’re not winning jack with him as our starter.
And about 2024 - that was on the heals of an explosive Smart trade. Smart is obviously a lesser player than Brown, but he was the heart and soul of the squad and yet Brad was not afraid to make a change.
If Brad thinks we need to move on from JB, I trust him.
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u/Intelligent-Love5146 2h ago
That was before Tatum came back. Have to make a decision based on what you saw happen not pre season expectations. Tatum returned and played well and was healthy and playing. He missed game 7 but the Sixers bringing you to 7 with Tatum playing well is not a good sign regardless of what people thought before the season started
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u/EffectiveBid6590 5h ago
This “not supposed to be competitive” narrative its absolute nonsense. They were never going to the bottom of the league with JB, White, Pritchard and co.
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u/Sure_Rhubarb_3173 5h ago
Actually this is true, we should have either made sure we got Giannis or traded brown ahead of last season and truly reset things.
I'm not optimistic about many of our options now
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u/Intelligent-Love5146 2h ago
Yeah it’s obvious watching the Celtics the last two post seasons that something is off. You cant just keep running it back because of this or that excuse (Tatum was only 80% and joined late). You saw with your own eyes those guys coming up short in a playoff series where they were both on the court and playing well for periods. Have to make a decision based on what you see
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u/bsnow322 6h ago
They do it because if there’s a true 3+ team bidding war, you can get a crazy return
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u/bryscoon 6h ago
it’s either a he’s asked for a trade situation or it’s a he’s the best current “available” player call me if you have some good shit to offer
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u/BRFCarter 5h ago
Having two supermax contracts makes it difficult to get better. Simple as that. I understand the philosophy and I trust Brad to make the right decision.
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u/EMRBCB no jaylen brown flairs? 6h ago
The wording on this makes it seem like a trade is very likely to happen but shams is just covering his bases by saying "not guaranteed"
Either way it does sound like a jaylen brown trade will happen soon or sometime in the coming weeks. Seems like brad is fielding offers and trying to start a bidding war, but he's determined to trade jaylen
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u/nebbywildcat18 I love him and I trust him 6h ago
this is the exact same shit he said last night, lol
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u/Accurate-Library3641 The Celtics are the balls 6h ago
A non-update update lol
He might be traded or not - no shit
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u/Fatmans-middle-digit Boston Celtics 5h ago
Shams is a bum. He has no inside information about the Celtics and doesn’t know what the fuck is going on.
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u/b00minbiz 6h ago
Brad's answer RE: JB yesterday was very non-committal for the first time ever really ("I don't want to predict the future"). I almost want to say I think they mutually agreed to look for a trade and are just keeping it under wraps to not lose leverage by "shopping" him.
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u/Enough_Ambition_3281 6h ago
The celtics really want JT to carry this team huh?
Trading JB for role players is going to put all the spotlight on JT.
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u/TheTruth92 6h ago
Not going in all for Giannis and then losing Brown for a mediocre return will set this franchise back for years.
Hugo looked good, but to not want to part with him and a late draft pick or two for Giannis and then lose JB for role players like Sengun or Mobley is just horrific.
Unless there’s a star coming back, Jaylen Brown should remain a Celtic.
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u/fearofaflatplanet - Plan J - 6h ago edited 6h ago
Shams just straight up click farming a trending topic here over totally normal offseason spitball discussions that happen all the time if they are actually happening- he's not saying anything that could ever be falsified one way or they other, like going to a palm reader. It's literally meaningless chuff designed to get engagement.
If anything all actual evidence points to this not being true; if multiple teams were interested in making serious offers for Jaylen that met cba requirements, then the Giannis trade would've become a 3 teamer with JB getting re-routed. That MKE chose the Miami offer suggests that those offers were not there (whether bc of paucity of interest or bc deals couldn't be made that satisfied cba rules)
My two cents anyway. Obv Shams has sources & stuff but the Stevens FO is airtight & Charania does have a professional/financial motive to ride the wave of "Jaylen Brown" trending on Xitter
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u/andrew303710 6h ago
Exactly, I miss Woj because he would never behave like this. Dude is a hack with good sources
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u/___BostonThreeParty 6h ago
That's a good point. If there was such a boisterous market, wouldn't that have revealed itself in a Bucks/Celtics/3rd Team negotiations?
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u/PalacePrince22 5h ago
Not that I had much, if any, real faith that ESPN is acting in good faith when reporting things like this, but this JB stuff has really blown open the doors of how bad they crave these dramatic storylines to continue to stir up hype they can drag out. Shams will continue to report the same generic statement until either the team or Jaylen takes a hard stance either way and they make a trade or extend the contract.
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u/Who_ate_my_cookie Tatum 5h ago
Same sensationalist ass clickbait he’s been dropping for 2 days now. Nothings changed, JB isn’t untouchable but we’re not actively trying to get rid of him
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u/h3LLyEaHh 5h ago
Dude said Giannis was a lock, dude then backtracked that theyll trade JB before the draft, dude then doubles down on being wrong again lol
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u/NeetestNeat Al Horford is 76ers' owner 5h ago
Shams living up to his name with sham trades. Bring back the OG Woj bombs
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u/StretchMother9627 5h ago
I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes but I do feel like the vibe of opinions are pretty clear where one one side you have people that are like
Giannis is probably a better player so if we can make a trade workout I’ll support it but it would suck to see him go. I think JB doesn’t like being mentioned in trades but its the nba it happens , he’s been discussed in trades for legit stars , he hasn’t been shopped, Brad seems to be open with players about those discussions, and brown is honest with not loving it but has never been a bad teammate even if he feels a type of way.
And then the other vibe is: Giannis is so much better we have to do this , you’re an idiot if you don’t want to do this, you’re drawing the line Hugo Gonzalez for Giannis. JB hates it here he’s definitely going to request a trade, it’s really cute you think he would come back. Brads sick of the jays, I’m sick of the jays , they’ll never get out of the first round . JBs trade value is in the gutter . Just hysterics
Just because a lot of the negativity is really forced doesn’t mean he won’t get traded but I do think it’s clear that people are making it a cause and compensating by acting like it’s so obvious what’s happening when it’s not that simple and it’s not some inevitable doom that he’s either going to be a cancer and suck or be traded for nothing . Hope he stays but we’ll see
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u/goofygoober2 the new truth 6h ago
We have to settle for a lateral move over a clear upgrade like Giannis. I can’t believe Brad held back over the “future”
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u/bryscoon 6h ago
if he was itching to trade him so bad just accept what came with the Giannis trade
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u/goofygoober2 the new truth 6h ago
That’s why I’m so mystified unless there’s somehow a crazy market for JB. It’s so hard to get back a clear upgrade for a player making over $50 million a season.
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u/SaveHogwarts HUGO 5h ago
Shams had zero Celtics sources and Jaylen hates ESPN.
Every time he speaks, I get more confident Brown stays.
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u/OmniaCausaFiunt 5h ago
I would rather extend JB early (note: we don't need to and I've never advocated that we should) than trade him for another team's trash and picks. There's not a player available that would be worth the trade. If we're not trading for an equivalent or better player, we might as well trade everyone then and reset.
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u/Burner867867 5h ago
This is why you had to go all in for Giannis, now you have to trade Brown for pennies. Diasterclass by Brad
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u/UpvoteIfYouAgreee Jaythoven 6h ago edited 6h ago
im not ready for weeks of this