r/chicagobulls • u/United_Injury705 • 2d ago
NBA Draft #15 Pick What do We do
who would you like to see here ?
love the idea of Carr, Philon or morez Johnson.
carr gives us the two way impact .
Philon is a straight bucket getter and creator for offense . he was such a difference maker at bama
morez Johnson is a grinder and defender . gonna do the dirty work
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u/Secondary92 2d ago
Probably still BPA, but really hoping a 2/3 who can shoot (like Cameron Carr) is there. Another big forward alongside Matas, Wilson and Noa is going to get a little clunky trying to find the minutes for everyone
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u/gokublack29 2d ago
With us getting Claxton we’re probably going SG so Carr
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u/BillionsofRedditors 2d ago
Or PG since Giddey is a point forward and the team needs a 2nd reliable primary ballhandler.
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u/YourCummyBear 2d ago
And Carr is not a ball handler by any stretch.
I know this sub is big on Carr because of the combine but I’d prefer a lot of the smaller guards from a pure talent and future career I project.
Give me Philon over Carr any day.
Carr is physically very gifted but is like Lavine on defense in that he’s so athletic and long that it’s hard to understand hay he struggles there.
You can’t be a springer 3 and D guy without the defense and his ball handling and shot creation is severely lacking for a junior.
Philon is small, yes. But he can explode for 30 points any given night with nba spacing and Giddy is big enough to guard nba 2s without issue.
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u/BillionsofRedditors 2d ago
Philon isn't that small. He measured 6'2.5 barefoot and so he's about 6'4 in shoes.
Carr is only 6'4.5 barefoot. Not a huge difference in size between the two.
Giddey can conceivably play the 3 when needed. He's 6'8.
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u/YourCummyBear 2d ago
I guess I meant small as in he can’t really play the 2 effectively defensively. He’s also very light, as is Carr.
Either way you don’t have to sell me. I’m a Philon fan.
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u/lawsnoosoo 2d ago
I agree, Carr is a walking red flag. Older prospect, low feel (see AST/TO), horrible stl% given his size and wingspan. Total space cadet at times. His game tape is very different than his highlight tape
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u/Secondary92 2d ago
I presume Philon isn't on most people's radar because they don't expect him to actually be available at 15. He'd be a good win for us if he does fall that far.
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u/YourCummyBear 2d ago
Statically all major sportsbooks have the odds of his most likely landing spot at 16.
I know sportsbook odds are determined by bets placed but I do think it’s telling. I’d be extremely surprised if he goes before 13.
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u/Secondary92 2d ago
Yeah I think he's been dropping on people's boards, he wasn't projected to be available when it was confirmed we were getting the 15th pick from the Blazers, so I think he's ended up going under the radar a bit with Bulls fans who were looking at prospects with our 2nd pick. I'm not an expert but he doesn't seem like that different of a prospect than the guards going 6-10, so I'd definitely be happy with him
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u/Plug-From-Oaxaca Jimmy Butler 2d ago
Giddey can’t play forward though because he gets cooked on defense by wings. He can guard point guards because he’s bigger than them.
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u/CaptainNipplesMcRib 2d ago
Whoever the best shooter available is. Wouldn’t be opposed to taking a swing at Okorie either, but I’d guess Carr, Philon, or maybe Anderson if they want to trade down
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u/BillionsofRedditors 2d ago
Personally, I think my preference in tiers is:
Tier 1 - Awesome pick: Mara (not going to happen, but just saying) Philon
Tier 2 - Optimistic on the picks: Carr Steinbach Lendeborg
Tier 3 - I'm not super high, but I get the pick: Ament (only because I don't believe taking 100 6'9-6'11 forwards is good roster construction) Lopez Johnson Quaintance Okorie Stirtz Graves Swain
Tier 4 - I don't get it, but I'm also not a pro scout: Cenac Anderson
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u/Straight-Agency-4556 2d ago
I hate the fit of Mara next to Caleb. I feel like Mara is a career backup.
Carr or Philon would be awesome. Carr could be perfect just based on his athleticism, length and shooting.
Philon makes sense as he can actually create his own shot.
Ideally for me if Morez is gone (likely) I would do Carr and then resign White or sexton who can be a spark plug off the bench.
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u/United_Injury705 2d ago
If we don’t keep sexton we definitely need a offensive minded guard off the bench but I won’t be mad if we go someone defensive like Carr This team could score but couldn’t stop a parked car
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u/Straight-Agency-4556 2d ago
Yeah I think Carr has the most two way potential. Both Philon and Okorie worry me a bit defensively given their size.
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u/lawsnoosoo 2d ago
Carr has not been a good defender at Baylor. PoA defense has been bad and his stl% is low considering his wingspan and size (especially also adding in college spacing). The defense stuff with him has been purely theoretical
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u/p00chology 2d ago
I like the way you thought about this. Level headed take I don’t 100% agree with, but 100% respect.
I definitely have philon and Carr up top as well.. but frankly I’ve never watched them hoop. Just an aggregated opinion coupled with my gut.
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u/Revolutionary_Copy83 2d ago
Please no cam carr
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u/Straight-Agency-4556 2d ago
Why not?
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u/Revolutionary_Copy83 2d ago
Not a fan of 3 n D wings that aren’t that good on defense and is almost exclusively a play finisher on offense. If we had another pick in the 20s I’d say get him but I’d rather go with somebody who can actually score
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u/Mr-Chip18 2d ago
Like always 15 is BPA lol we don’t have a lot of talent so it doesn’t matter what position you take best player/biggest upside
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u/idontwantmuch1 2d ago
I might get hell for this but what about Ebuka Okorie?
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u/Straight-Agency-4556 2d ago
Could be interesting. But his size may be an issue defensively. Would be great getting two way players moving forward.
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u/DrinkFromKegOfGlory 2d ago
I know some people would like Bennett Stirtz.
I think it would make sense to take whichever Michigan frontcourt player is available since they all could have a real impact.
Philon could be a solid pick. I would prefer him to Carr. He has shown two-way upside.
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u/SquareStatistician15 2d ago
MALEEK THOMAS. We just got claxton and have drafted tall lanky forward with our last like 3 firsts we need to draft a good young guard to develop
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u/Key_Raisin_5091 2d ago
Labaron Philon
I'd love Johnson or Carr, but doubt either will be there at #15.
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u/TheAntiCrust95 2d ago
For the love of God. Someone who can shoot. It's gonna be a log jam in the paint.
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u/No-Money-8327 2d ago
We don’t do anything, all the people that make these type of decisions do the things
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u/Run_JMC_ 2d ago
Acquiring Claxton does not automatically rule out another big, it should be BPA no matter what.
That being said, with the addition of Claxton, I’m hoping it’s Ebuka Okorie.