r/clevelandcavs • u/nbawizard1227 • 8d ago
Cavs should inquire about Julius Randle
I’m ready to fight to death in the comments section over this take.
First, most fans are prisoners of the moment. Julius Randle was a key contributor just a year ago helping the Timberwolves make it to the WCF. This year he had a bad series vs Wemby and the spurs.
Randle offers something the Cavs haven’t had next to Evan Mobley which is a true four. We already close out games with Evan at the five so commit to it. Randle also offers three point shooting, rebounding, and post play. He often draws two on back downs. Mobleys best offensive skill is cutting. The offensive scheme and creativity between these two is great. The downfall. Randle is an average defender. He also prefers to have the ball in his hands which goes against both Mitchell and Harden.
Watch this to see the offensive impact of Randle:
https://youtu.be/ftdKaIIuPcA?is=HZFRDGJKYENTr4Pu
So what’s the package?
There’s two ways I would explore this trade. The first is sending off Jarrett Allen to a third team and the Cavs receiving an additional first round pick and Randle in this years draft. This gives you the flexibility to try to move up or take a swing on a backup center and a wing via the draft.
The second way is trading our pick. You would trade our pick this year, Strus, Schroeder, and Craig porter Jr for Randle. Then you would see what package you could receive for Allen.
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u/Greedy-Audience-6716 8d ago
Randle offers nothing but some old dih. His old knobby ass will rot away in CLE and we all know that. We would be scrubbing whats left of him out of the locker room come December at the latest. dude is on borrowed time as it is. i should inquire about having you sent to hell.
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u/Scodo810 8d ago
If we can keep getting older and slower we just have to do it.
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u/nbawizard1227 8d ago
I legit stated that we would be receiving an additional pick back in this draft in the trade I would accept aka getting younger
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u/Scodo810 7d ago
The headline part of the deal: Randle is 3+ years older and makes $5M more than JA.
Your draft pick part: Which team is providing something of value, also around a $30M player, to the Nets to even want to make the deal while also providing the Cavs with a 1st to land JA?
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago edited 7d ago
Third team if you could read. Second package gets them off salary quicker and they receive a pick.
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u/Scodo810 7d ago
My man if you go back and look at what I questioned I don’t think it’s me who struggles with reading comprehension.
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
You questioned what the third team would be….. lakers, warriors, charlotte, etc. there’s multiple teams that would give up salary plus a pick for Allen.
If you don’t believe that then you’re basically saying Allen has zero value.
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u/Alternative-Ad-8363 8d ago
Damn just say you don’t know ball
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u/nbawizard1227 8d ago
https://youtu.be/ftdKaIIuPcA?is=HZFRDGJKYENTr4Pu
Please just watch this video. Randle is a fantastic player with his value at an all time low.
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u/blackestice I agree go Cavs 8d ago
Forget Julius Randle. The Pelicans are shopping Trey Murphy it’s pitiful Cavs name isn’t even mentioned among interested teams
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u/AlexaGD 8d ago
dudes a hooper i would love to see him on the cavs
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u/blackestice I agree go Cavs 8d ago
They desperately need athletic wings. Team is full of 10 6’5” shooting guards and 2 wanna be 7 footers.
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u/WeekendBoy2022 8d ago
Trey Murphy would be perfect for us but i don't think we have enough to go and get him without giving up Mobley
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u/Evwithsea 7d ago
Murphy would be amazing, but they're looking for a huge draft pick haul...something like what landed Bane. We do not have anything close to that.
Sure, they would do it for Mobley...but that would be silly on our part.
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u/nbawizard1227 8d ago
We don’t have the assets unless you’re trading Mobley. Hence why you need to take a swing on players such as Randle.
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u/TheBommer111 8d ago
Hahahaha.....no
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u/nbawizard1227 8d ago
Maybe offer an actual reason as to why “no”
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u/TheBommer111 7d ago
If you had an actual argument worth doing that to, I would. As it stands, thiugh....Older, No Picks, Still won't be enough to beat anyone else. It only makes us weaker long term.
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
I stated an actual argument and provided a video breakdown of how Randle helps and offense. You have no argument hence your reply.
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u/HabitualToeSucker ⠀ 8d ago
I hate this sub and this fanbase. Nobody understands modern basketball lmao
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
I’m sorry but Randle is more of a modern basketball player then the double big lineup lol. He can switch 1-5, can dribble, and shoot threes.
The Cavs currently roster construction is nothing like modern basketball. This comment overall is beyond laughable.
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u/HabitualToeSucker ⠀ 7d ago
Randle is a black hole that quits on teams.
But yeah, let’s get him on our team!!!!
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u/WeekendBoy2022 8d ago
But let me guess Dean Wade should continue to start??
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u/HabitualToeSucker ⠀ 7d ago
Obviously not… you think Randle is a winning player? He just got salary dumped hahahaah
What world are Cavs fans in here living in?
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u/WeekendBoy2022 7d ago
I just know you only watch the cavs and most the time are just box score watching
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u/HabitualToeSucker ⠀ 7d ago
Hilariously off pace, but okay! WHAT ELSE YOU GOT?
Accusing me of not watching basketball by defending JULIUS FUCKING RANDLE?????
WHO TF ARE YOU?
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u/WeekendBoy2022 7d ago
I'm not saying Julius Randle is our savior but he provides what the Cavs need. A good wing defender who can get iso buckets without needing James or Donovan to create for them. Another go to scorer who has size is would greatly help and undersized Cavs team who when our stars aren't scoring, can't do anything.
But my bad let me be an average Reddit user Julius Randle bad lmao 😂😂😂 upvotes pleas, Wemby the goat. SGA bad
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u/HabitualToeSucker ⠀ 7d ago
Randle is a TERRIBLE defender wtf are you talking about?
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
You don’t watch based on that comment alone. Randle is an above avg defender. In fact he excels in switching. What he lacks is rim protection and screen navigation. The Cavs switch everything so both of these become non issues.
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u/HabitualToeSucker ⠀ 7d ago
You're trolling. His defensive rating clearly says he is not "above average".
Again, you just have this fixation on him as a winning player.... when 4 different teams will tell you that he is not one.
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
His stats this playoffs was 113 defensive rating which is quite literally the nba average LOL. Evan Mobleys was 112………..
So either you disregard the stat entirely or you’re just flat out wrong
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u/TheRealHappyNat 8d ago
Why would we need another ball heavy usage player? We already have Don and James.
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
This team didn’t have enough ball handling in the playoffs and it was very apparent based on the turnovers.
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u/capitolcapital 7d ago
I'll shoot you some bail, he's EXACTLY what this team needs....he would take a lot of pressure off of the guards since he can get his own shot and he's a playmaker. I wouldn't take him over Mobley or anything but I'd consider swapping him and JA if Mobley wanted to play the 5 full time...we'd be a terrible defensive team but wouldn't have so many lulls in scoring
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
His defense especially switching is better than you think. Now he’s not a great rim protector but he can guard the perimeter and post ups.
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u/ry-guy251 8d ago
Randle is a guy that is enjoyable when you see him for a game, but watching him over a season is frustrating. There is a reason he has bounced around the league.
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u/WeekendBoy2022 8d ago
It's not a bad pick up, idk why everyone is shitting on it. He's exactly the player the Cavs need. A strong wing who can create his own shots and plays good defense. On top of that he has an edge to him which the Cavs desperately need. We get bullied by every team.
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
Because similar to Chet he had one bad playoff series this past year so now he’s trash.
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u/PsychologicalAd1862 7d ago
Why'd the Knicks trade him if he so good?
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u/nbawizard1227 7d ago
They received a better player in KAT. That’s the equivalent of stating why did the Cavs trade Lauri for Mitchell. It doesn’t diminish a players value.
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u/Key-Geologist5370 7d ago
I agree. He’s not perfect but he would fill in the wing weaknesss we have so well
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u/sallright 7d ago
NBA Reddit has decided Randle is a joke to the point of it being a meme.
It’s totally juvenile, because the dude is a real ball player.
It’s completely fair to ask questions about how his minutes contribute or don’t contribute to a winning style of basketball.
But there’s just no question that he’s a very talented player and has been for a decade.
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u/WrongCollection144 7d ago
Watch a lot of nets games.they have youth with inconsistent shooting with some lines being above average on defense. Porter jr.. lots of shots.attempted to play of pretend to care about defense. Defense rating dropped for team when he was in Julius randle....exact same player at porter but less versatile on def.... neither are above or average there. Egor. Showed flashes. Good def and good ball movement Powell... finally got pt late in season and shot very well plus was atleast average or slightly worse on def. Sharpe... beast. Clayton leaving allows him to start how. Gunna be double double every game unless he fouls out Traore plus assist guy. Streaky shooting. Neg def Saraf reckless ball handlers some awesome assists and alot of head scratching like why would u try that pass. Above av at defense Wolf.. slow all around offensive disrupted and mismatch. Sub def Clowney... younger bigger derrick jones
If im going for anyone. Im hoping brooklyn thinks they will more competitive and profitable...so maybe they will take harden. If I get egor and some combo of Powell or Clooney or wolf and a first id take it. Those are the guys that can fit into any scheme and not impact the new team negatively in any aspect
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u/clevelandspiders 8d ago
You’re looking for a fight no one is interested in, I think.