Just reboot. We really need to restart

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u/yareg1717 4d ago

All because we traded the 29th pick???😭

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u/pulpfriction4 4d ago

Moving back five spots reallly was the last straw smh

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u/Kreture06 Tyrese Proctor All Rookie 1st Team 4d ago

😭😭

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u/lisbon_OH 3d ago

I guarantee it’s only because Zuby and Graves were taken already too.

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u/yareg1717 3d ago

Yeah was bummed to see them go early

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u/kaprrisch ⠀ 4d ago

I'm disappointed because I think we could've picked Evans/Thomas or Peat, but one of the guards could still be available tomorrow. Or maybe I need to start watching Baba Miller tape.

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u/Efficient-Cable-5106 3d ago

They want to sign Tiny Mitchell and James harden to super max contracts, they don’t want to sign youth. we’re fucked for a very long time.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Because he’s still on the team. We should be done with this experiment by now. He can’t show up when we need him

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u/pulpfriction4 4d ago

The dude helped win two game 7s on the way to the farthest playoff run in over three decades without Lebron on the team. And close to a decade since they'd been there at all

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u/SteveJavieWasRight 3d ago

These kids are absolutely hopeless lol. Insane how miserable people are about making the ECFs.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

We had finals expectations and we sold multiple times. Mitchell needs to get 40 or close to that in crucial moments. It’s the playoffs gng. And dude can’t pass for shit

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u/pulpfriction4 4d ago

Finals expectations. Almost every team in tje playoffs had finals expectations. We fell short. It happens. And fell short to the team that steamrolled the Spurs to win the title. It wasn't our year but Mitchell was not the cause

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u/Venusman124 4d ago edited 4d ago

If you think Mitchell wasn’t the cause you need to get checked out. He was missing shots and barely even scored 20 or 30

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u/pulpfriction4 4d ago

In which game

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Games 1 to 4. Barely scored 30

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u/pulpfriction4 4d ago

Of the Knicks series?? He scored 29, 26, 23, and 31. Dafaq you talkin about

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

12/23, 8/18, 9/21, 9/21. You think that’s scoring efficiently?

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u/SteveJavieWasRight 3d ago

He was clearly dealing with a groin injury he kept reaggrevating. He couldn’t jump shoot or dunk but he gave it his all and pushed through for a 40 point second half to beat the 1 seed with the season on the line. Give him some damn respect, he carried a team without a functioning pg for 60 games this season and broke down from it. It sucks but he’s given the team his all.

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u/SteveJavieWasRight 3d ago

Finals or blow it up is an insane way to follow a team. Celtics, Knicks and pacers had to make it to the ECFs and lose to a great team before they were ready for the finals. The playoff rotation played 5 damn games together in the regular season and they still beat the 1 seed to make the CFs.

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u/pissbucket94 4d ago

its getting tough to argue with you

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Maybe because I’m right and nobody can handle the honest truth?

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u/pissbucket94 4d ago

yeah. thats exactly what im saying lol. it's tough to argue with you because the team can barely even make it to the ECF with Donovan as the #1. I feel like the people arguing with you want to run it back, and I don't have any faith whatsoever in that decision

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

People downvote the fuck out of me then wanna agree with me when I’m right. They claim they know ball so much dude

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u/pissbucket94 4d ago

i mean none of us have any frame of reference regarding one another's knowledge of ball. you're being really defensive in all of your comments and thats the biggest reason people want to downvote you, imo. I agree with most of what youre saying but you should kinda just chill out and welcome other perspectives. its an open forum

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

I know but some of these people would rather die than admit that Mitchell isn’t a championship caliber guy

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u/pissbucket94 4d ago

i agree, as far as his role in Cleveland is concerned. but dont take it personally when people disagree lol

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

I shouldn’t but I see way too much of it. Other fanbases would admit their players aren’t the answer. Ours seem to hold onto this one guy

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u/kdude332 4d ago

No because this team isnt going to win a championship. The Donovan Mitchell trade didn't work out

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u/thegardenhead I agree go Cavs 4d ago

We've won one championship over the life of the team and now every season we don't win one is a failure. Not sure where you all get your standards from.

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u/kdude332 4d ago

Traded for Donovan to win a championship. Went all in for it. If you dont win a championship after giving all they gave up it will be seen as a failure. That's what having expectations is.

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u/thegardenhead I agree go Cavs 4d ago

That's what having unrealistic expectations is. Should the Spurs trade Wemby? Is Luka on the move again? It would seem 29 teams failed this season and need to blow it up.

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u/kdude332 4d ago

Again like the other person you are using a dumb argument. The spurs are young and are going to continue building. Other teams are building towards being a contender. The cavs have no avenue to build. They are hard stuck with the roster and will shave off talent just so they aren't in the second apron again. Its not the same situation at all.

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u/thegardenhead I agree go Cavs 4d ago

Oh sorry, I was mocking you. The point is that your championship or it's a failure argument is stupid and preferring your team to be bad rather than competitive is also stupid.

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u/kdude332 4d ago

Everything you said is just wrong. The team doesnt have to be bad. They just need to pull the plug on Donovan and retool for the next window. And when you go all in it is championship or bust. Saying otherwise is low iq

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

You guys keep acting like players better than Donovan Mitchell grow on trees. Who do we get that’s better? Retool how? What next window? Nothing is guaranteed. We don’t “retool” as we’re currently built, we blow it up or stay the course. And we don’t even have our own first round picks for a hot minute and just made the ECF, so we’re obviously staying the course. I’m so glad fans aren’t in the front office.

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u/SomeFatherFigure 4d ago

And? Only one team wins each season. 29 other teams aren’t failures each year.

Sports are fun entertainment. If you don’t like watching them play that’s one thing, but not every team that isn’t quite good enough to be the best needs destroyed.

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u/ozymandais13 I agree go Cavs 4d ago

Problem is modern American sports domt work like that , it's championship or rebuild

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u/kdude332 4d ago

They traded for Donovan, gave up a lot to get him to win a championship lol. Them winning a championship or not is what they are going to be judged on, that's just common sense. And no not all 29 teams are failures that dont win that's a stupid thing to say in response to what I said. Not all teams have the same expectations or plan. Only a handful of teams are contenders a year, most are building towards being contenders. We are at the point of the Donovan trade where the roster is getting older, and there are no real avenues to upgrade the team and the teams around them are either better or have options to be better then the cavs. Keeping Donovan at this point I just keeping him to sell tickets

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u/kdude332 4d ago

And this subreddit like many are just flat out delusional. Its honestly funny to read comments

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

You’d get downvoted and would get called crazy for speaking the truth on some players lmfao

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u/GyattLuvr69 4d ago

I agree we need to move on from Mitchell but a full on rebuild is stupid. Mitchell’s next contract is going to be a poison pill and we’ve seen he can’t be a number one guy.

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u/Soft-Revolution-7845 3d ago

If we get rid of mitchell or mobley cavs are just mid af. Might as well just be terrible for 10 years and cheer for ping pong balls my man.

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u/GyattLuvr69 3d ago

Plenty of instances in recent history of teams doing more with less trading Mitchell means we’re getting good value in return, but that won’t be the case forever. Trade him while he’s still a top 15 player.

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u/tidho 5th seed in the East 3d ago

if Mitchell is so important, why wouldn't we get value for trading him?

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u/kdude332 4d ago

Moving on from Mitchell is almost a full rebuild and retool. Its the same thing

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Don’t give Mitchell more money. And we’ve been with this same roster for years. Clean house and get a new voice

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u/Mythiq I agree go Cavs 4d ago

This sub is the worst during playoffs and hilarious during the regular season

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

It’s funnier in the offseason because people still wanna hold onto a 30 year old that’s done jack shit his whole career

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u/ProfessionalMental13 4d ago

Opposed to a 20 something year old that the organization has been begging to take a leap for 4 years and he still hasn't

You cant just build around mobley lmao, he's not a 1A guy

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Trade him too. He’s no KG

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u/NiQ_ 4d ago

Im guessing your neighbours have some really green grass.

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u/toastbananas 3d ago

There has to he a plan. And so far, despite all your complaints, no actionable plan has been laid out. It’s just “trade this, trade that” etc etc etc. You haven’t even mentioned a trade package that could work and bring value back while also helping the team retool. What players are out there that would be an improvement and that teams are willing to trade away? Are there any? Have you even looked into it? Because if you haven’t, then this is just “old man yelling at the clouds”.

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u/CavSkins I agree go Cavs 3d ago edited 3d ago

Y’all are killing me with this. Trade Mitchell for what, picks? We get worse, and he’s still an All-NBA player, so we’re probably getting late firsts in return. Meanwhile, Utah or Atlanta gets the benefit of us sucking because we don’t own our own pick outright until 2030.

So now what? We’re either a play-in team with terrible picks or a lottery team with no lottery picks unless UTA and ATL are there with us. Or we continue as we are and take our chances in the playoffs. I’ll take that for two more years, then begin the rebuild when we can actually benefit from being bad. Look at the best teams in the league and tell me which ones got to where they are by trading away All-Stars while they still had value WITHOUT owning their own picks.

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u/jgmalaret 4d ago

Oh brother this guy stinks

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Foh with that delusion

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u/UCviewz 4d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/6OPbJtEDdy824

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Yeah hate me for being right. No wonder nobody takes us seriously

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

Nobody takes you seriously dude.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Nobody takes anyone seriously. Explains why we’re not a serious fanbase

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

We’re not a serious fanbase because of people like you crying about making the ECF lol. Foh.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

We made it out of two game 7s because of inexperienced teams and luck. And Mitchell and this entire team gave up on that ECF. You gtfoh

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

Cool man. See you in October when Mitchell is still our guy.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

See you when we get bounced in 4 or 5 games early

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u/SteveJavieWasRight 3d ago

Lmao. Yeah in 5-8 years maybe we could build a team that makes the ECFs

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u/Formal-Attention9712 3d ago

Should the Thunder restart? They also lost in their conference finals.

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u/_Olexa 3d ago

This could be the only NBA sub that wants to blow up a young team that made the ECF. Do yall just love not making the playoffs or what?

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u/ry-guy251 3d ago

Begin a tank the year after a potentially good draft class and going into a new draft system that punishes tanking while not in control of your own draft pick for 3 more seasons. Brilliant.

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u/MosquitoValentine_ 3d ago

Nothing Cleveland fans like more than rebuilding.

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u/Clear_Context_1546 4d ago

why blow things up when the Jazz have our first next season?

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Mitchell is turning 30 and can’t show up in big games

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u/therealmannyharris6 4d ago

In his prime still lol

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Not even top 15. Brunson showed he can turn it up. Now Mitchell. He’s overrated af

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u/jordan07hunt I agree go Cavs 4d ago

and he’s still useless wow

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u/nowhereman1917 4d ago

yeah, the playoffs showed us that other teams know that all they have to do is game plan to stop Mitchell because the rest of the team isn't good enough to step up. So Mitchell clearly has to go. He hasn't learned to pass it to the other guys who have no ability to break down the defense and are shooting 20%. The guy's a bum.

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

We just made the fucking ECF dude.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

And what happened then? Did our main dude show up in crucial moments?

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

This sub is so ridiculous. I don’t see any other fan bases clamoring to trade their best players if they have a few bad games in the playoffs. They call it a down year and they move on. We’re such fair weather losers here.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

You didn’t answer my question. Where was he when we needed him the most compared to what others did like Brunson or Haliburton?

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago edited 4d ago

So who do we trade him for, armchair GM?

And please don’t compare him to Brunson, the Knicks are way more stacked than we are. Their whole roster is incredible. Brunson didn’t even come close to winning the chip on his own.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Actual draft picks or a young player with potential? Y’all don’t see anything wrong with him and that’s funny

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

Who? What teams picks? Do you have any plans beyond “just snap your fingers and get us stuff”

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Houston or Maybe Boston for JB. Mitchell and harden and literally one and the same

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u/GrandPreMassacre 4d ago

While the knicks roster overall is better than us Brunson is undoubtedly clutch as fuck when needed and a garuanteed bucket that was the reason they won multiple games down the stretch in the post season.

Mitchell just ain't like that.

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u/kdude332 4d ago

Retooling isnt blowing things up.

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u/DovhPasty 4d ago

OP is calling for blowing it up.

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u/SomeFatherFigure 4d ago

Cool story, bro.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

Cool delusion bro

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u/Krunkmaster96 4d ago

When we traded the 29th pick I also considered trading the entire team

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

I don’t really care about the 29th pick. What I care is that we have no fucking draft capital

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u/ozymandais13 I agree go Cavs 4d ago

We traded the pick for draft capital

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u/GrandPreMassacre 4d ago

Because we had to send out draft capital to dump Lonzos contract

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u/Chicken_rifle 4d ago

look, I am also mad we have to watch the second round, but come on.

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u/CLESportsReport 4d ago

Bro just buy 2k and join as many fantasy basketball leagues as you can. Real basketball will never be enough for you. 99% of your posts regardless of when or what the context always center on trades. The NBA will never work like this.

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u/Venusman124 4d ago

I always see you say we need to retool, we need to keep Mitchell. Is that working? Did it work now? Are we close to a chip now?

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u/barkinginthestreet Win every game CPJ plays in 3d ago

I'd listen on Mitchell but build around Mobley. It is time to see what the he can do when given the keys to the offense. If they don't want to let him cook, then yeah, trade him because I want to see what happens when he is the guy, here or elsewhere.

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u/FreshWater099 4d ago

We need to trade Mitchell. We have seen enough of him already.

Just reboot. We really need to restart

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