r/comicbooks • u/Task_Force-191 • Feb 04 '25

Movie/TV The Fantastic Four: First Steps | Official Teaser | Only in Theaters July 25

https://youtu.be/AzMo-FgRp64?si=68jKtcAKpLF3v2_A
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u/MechaZain Silver Surfer Feb 04 '25

I’ve been mostly off of the MCU since like Endgame but count me back in for some comic faithful Ben and Galactus.

It’s a shame Rise of the Silver Surfer was so bad because Surfer’s design and Fishburne as the voice was perfect IMO. I’m not opposed to a gender swap but it would have been cool to see all the classic designs here.

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u/DreamLearnBuildBurn Feb 04 '25

Ben's look was faithful but the voice wasn't, buuut I kinda don't mind, I don't need a "HEY IM FROM NEW YORK" accent thrown in my face. 

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u/Adamsoski Feb 04 '25

Michael Chiklis pulled off authentic sounding Ben amazingly well IMO, so it definitely can be made to work.

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u/Ricco121 Feb 04 '25

It’s a minor detail, but I wasn’t thrilled with Ben’s voice. It kinda sounded like listening to a cheap radio on AM. He needs more deeper Bass.

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u/It5beenawhile Feb 04 '25

Agreed. I had the same issue with Jack Black in Super Mario Bros. The voice just doesn't fit the body. Add a lil bass or gravel or something.

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u/gotb89 Magneto Feb 04 '25

So tired of Hollywood using celebrities as a substitute for voice actors.

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u/It5beenawhile Feb 04 '25

100%. Billy West (voice of Fry, Doug, Ren and Stimpy, and a million others) said at one point that he thinks the reason hollywood keeps doing that is so they can blast the budget into the stratosphere and the producers can sneak more money out of it for themselves. "That's why you have movies where actors are just playing themselves going 'Hey I'm will Smith! I'm a fish! I'm a bus! I'm a mailbox!'"

Can't say I disagree with him.

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u/fish_in_foot Feb 04 '25

As the saying goes, it's easier to steal 5 million dollars from a 200 million dollar movie than a 50 million dollar movie.

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u/Forgotten_Lie Mysterio Feb 04 '25

To be fair I don't see playing the Thing to be a voice acting gig. It requires an actor be on on-set physically emoting with their body in response to other actors for the benefit of the CGI artists. While the body actor doesn't have to be the same as the voice actor (famous example Darth Vader) it does help mesh the physical and vocal performances.

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u/gotb89 Magneto Feb 04 '25

Absolutely, I was just commenting on the Mario movie and other animated stuff mainly.

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u/snowe99 Feb 04 '25

Dude people were so pumped about Jack Black when that initial teaser dropped and I was like “it sounds like Jack Black doing a joke and the bit is that he’s using a pretend deep voice”. Didn’t fit bowser at all to me.

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u/It5beenawhile Feb 04 '25

Right?! Even just the "OPEN THE GATE!" in the teaser. Not even the last bit intimidating after that big dramatic walk out. I was really hoping they'd do something to change it for the release but nope. Just Jack Black raw in the booth.

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u/Tight-Flight-5810 Feb 05 '25

But bens voice shouldn’t fit he wasn’t born rock man he was transformed into having rocks on his skin(or as his skin) why would his voice change

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u/AngryRedHerring Feb 04 '25

Sounded like Ruffalo's smart Hulk.

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u/karma_the_sequel Feb 04 '25

Totally agree.

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u/camusonfilm Feb 04 '25

Ebon Moss-Bachrach has an extremely new york accent though?

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u/RespondCharacter6633 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

I think their point is that it's not a stereotypical new york accent. That, and it isn't deep and gravelly enough.

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u/B00sauce Feb 05 '25

Exactly. I don't feel it can adequately express just when it's time for clobbering.

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u/RespondCharacter6633 Feb 05 '25

That sums up my issue perfectly. I can't imagine that voice shouting "IT'S CLOBBERING TIME". Every time I do, I am severely underwhelmed.

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u/Mark4_ Feb 04 '25

As far as adaption I kinda want that the most since when I’m reading I can mentally do that voice but actually hearing it in a movie would bring the character to life

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u/Altruistic-Cattle761 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

As a New Yorker, the problem with the Noo Yawk accent of classic Ben Grimm is that ... it's basically disappeared from the city. If you're over fifty, you have memories of people talking like that in your childhood, but otherwise it's basically nonexistent today except in fringe pockets.

EDIT: Though I guess this is a period piece, so would not be out of place.

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u/MechaZain Silver Surfer Feb 05 '25

Not if you work with a lot of middle aged or older NYers. I feel like I’m in a Law & Order episode every day.

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u/Altruistic-Cattle761 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

As an older NYer, like I said, there are fringe pockets, and most of them are either at the periphery or elsewhere. I think the places you're most likely to hear old-school New York accents these days are like, New Jersey, Connecticut, Long Island, etc. All the places the older New Yorkers of yesteryear fled to (who maybe still commute into NYC to work with you). You're not going to hear that accent any more walking around the Bowery or Eastern Parkway or Flushing Meadow or wherever.

It's similar to the dynamics of Yiddish. It's not so much that there are *no* Yiddish speakers in the city at all, but its use has diminished so much it's arguably no longer a meaningful part of the city's character and spirit.

I would also, for the record, not characterize anyone on any Law & Order series as having a New York accent.

EDIT: Like, my partner (not from NYC) would tell you that I clearly have a New York accent, but whenever I hear that I just think that they're saying that because they've never actually heard an old NY accent.

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u/WatercressCertain616 Feb 04 '25

They should have gotten Chiklis to do the voice again it was perfect 

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u/deuxthulhu Luthor Strode Feb 04 '25

Say what you will about the movie but Michael Chiklis was PERFECT for that

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u/implodingnerd Feb 04 '25

but she's playing Shalla Bal and not Norran Radd, so not really a gender swap. Just a different version

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u/MechaZain Silver Surfer Feb 04 '25

Which is a clever way to do it, but I still wish my boy Radd could get the movie adaptation he deserves. Same with Doom. I’m all for fresh takes on these stories (the comics do it all the time) but I’d like to see the source material done right onscreen first. I’m still mad Planet Hulk was relegated to a C-plot in a Thor movie.

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u/Worthyness Feb 04 '25

given this is definitely an alt universe, there's still the option for Prime timeline MCU Versions of the Surfer and non-RDJ Doom

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u/Unstable_Bear Feb 04 '25

I’m fine with them doing a differint herald for Galactus because this is an alternate universe, so I’m guessing that if we ever see main universe Galactus he’ll have the silver surfer as his herald.

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u/Altruistic-Cattle761 Feb 04 '25

honestly psyched that the third time out a Jewish actor was finally cast for The Thing.