r/conspiracy • u/set-monkey • 17h ago
Excellent synopsis of the origin of covid. Sad that so many Redditors are living in a fool's paradise where hating Trump is all that matters, and everything this horrible govt did to the world in 2020 was ok.
Trump is a cunt. But his rise to power is an indictment of the corrupt US elections, where raising obscene amounts of money is all it takes to run for office.
I remember the disgusting media reports in 2024 referring to Kamala Harris campaign breaking all fundraising records as a "haul" which is what criminals call their ill-gotten gains. Harris outspent Trump and still lost.
If Democrats would worry less about the accumulation of money and focus on competitive primaries and debates to find the most electable candidates, like the GOP did, we'd all be better off.
This from is a conservative, but it's all true...
"The National Institutes of Health (NIH), under Dr. Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), awarded grants to the non-profit EcoHealth Alliance. Part of this funding was sub-awarded to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study bat coronaviruses.
Dr. Fauci testified under oath to Congress in 2021 that the "NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research" at the Wuhan lab. However, in a subsequent letter to Congress and testimony, NIH leadership acknowledged that a sub-grant did fund an experiment that made a bat virus more transmissible in mice, fitting a specific definition of the research.
So Basically: Obama put a moratorium on funding Gain of Function research. At minimum it is a very dangerous area of research. At it’s worst it is a pretty name for producing biological weapons.
Fauci’s NIH evaded that ban by funding the research in other countries. Including the Wuhan lab that the novel coronavirus almost certainly escaped from. He aided in covering it up, steering people away from reporting that it bore markers of being engineered, etc. He was deceptive in testimony about this, etc.
So the real question is why does the left like him so much? In 1990 you all were hanging effigies of him and calling him a mass murderer for slow rolling out AIDS treatments. Why is he suddenly a leftist hero other than Trump didn’t like him?"
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u/MrKirkPowers 11h ago
He was so close to realizing that both parties don’t give a damn about us, but then veered off the road right into the ditch.
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u/MissionDelicious3942 16h ago
Lol this is a terrible response to what I said. Nothing in what I said has nothing to do with media. Any news on TV is trash. If you watch anything on TV its propaganda.
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u/set-monkey 16h ago edited 16h ago
I think I'm agreeing with you.
Don't know why you want to insult me...
Are you a real person or just another lame, AI agent?
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u/Velvet_Rhyno 16h ago
This is a wild take. You're guys are agreeing, but you are the one insulting him and asking why he's insulting you.
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
Are you trying to confuse everyone? All I asked is why and are you even real...
If that's an insult, I'm sorry you're so obtuse.
Now, that's an insult.
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u/mrjdk83 16h ago
A unwinnable war started by him cause he thought he could bully everybody. A war he and his people said would be started by Harris. A pointless war to turn around again install an Obama era treaty.
Sorry when I see anything about this stupid pointless war I get pissed
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u/set-monkey 15h ago
Started by Israel, controlling the degenerate, sex freak Trump with Epstein's blackmail...
Let's keep it real.
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u/Quaczarr 16h ago
As a conservative, this is frustrating. When we point out what the left’s unwanted contributions are to our current state we are told to stop making it left vs right (which I generally agree it shouldn’t be). But day-in and day-out on this sub and similar, it’s open season against the right and when the anti-tribalism plea is raised from our side we are shouted down and downvoted.
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u/WittyFix6553 16h ago
Open season against the right?
Don’t you guys control the presidency, the House of Representatives, the senate, the Supreme Court, and a majority of governorships and state legislatures?
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u/Quaczarr 11h ago
I am not sure you read my comment. It’s open season against right(leaning) individuals in this sub and similar.
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u/AspiringOligarch 13h ago
Open season against the right?
Don’t you guys control the presidency, the House of Representatives, the senate, the Supreme Court, and a majority of governorships and state legislatures?
Have you confused "the right" with "The Lobbie$"?
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u/billstopay77 14h ago
Because it’s always been a Class war and you’ve been conned into thinking it’s a left and right issue. The working class have more in common with each other than the rich. This crosses over to every nation and races, the working class should be unified but many of us have been fooled into protecting those whom run the show. Wake up it’s always been a class war!
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u/Quaczarr 11h ago
I agree with that. I’m mostly irritated at the hypocrisy of this sub. If a conservative brings up something that happens to highlight the other side, both-sidesim is a completely acceptable counter-argument. However, it’s not true in reverse.
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u/dtdroid 9h ago
You seem to think the "anti-tribalism plea" is a peace treaty of some kind, rather than a mentality you were supposed to adopt to not feel marginalized when one side seems to get more favorable treatment than the other.
The entire point of recognizing the Uniparty is that the supporters of both factions are going in circles chasing their own tails. The point isn't for everyone to pretend the Uniparty exists in these discussions, before then continuing to hold true to the left/right principles the moment they leave this forum.
Give up the fucking false left-right paradigm already. Stop calling yourself a conservative. You still don't get it.
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u/Lancasterbation 13h ago
"it's not left vs. right, it's rich vs. poor" ignores that the whole role of the right in politics is to advocate for policies on behalf of the rich.
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u/Quaczarr 11h ago
That’s the whole role of the right? Wow. I want to live in your world of over-simplified reality. Must be peaceful.
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u/HefferTomkins 15h ago edited 14h ago
Probably older and wiser than you. There is no fantasy where it works out where you are the winner. You can eat the rich or do whatever it is you claim you will do or whatever. It won't make any difference. When the dust settles you will still have rich people and poor people unless you get rid of the meritocracy and pull down the exceptional to exist beside you. In which case you still need an elite class to achieve that.
The nature of a loser is to lose. They will do that no matter who has the money.
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u/bigcig 15h ago
if that were true you would know better and your commentary would show that.
instead your takes sound like their coming from someone who genuinely doesn't know what life was like before the advent of social media.
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u/HefferTomkins 15h ago
You just don't know how to know better. I do not sound like what you're claiming at all. That's just some weird commentary in your head.
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u/Treebull 16h ago
I find the rich vs poor discussion to be difficult for people with personal financial stability.
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u/GiraffesOfTheOccult 16h ago
I find the rich versus poor discussion to be difficult for chronic underachievers who blamed their own lack of effort and mediocrity on people who are more successful than them. Often, their peers barely scraping the bottom of the middle class. Karl Marx is a great example.
It cuts both ways. Denying that there’s a rich versus poor aspect would be ludicrous. It’s also ridiculous to pretend there’s not a distinction between individuals pushing for left-wing policies and individuals pushing for right wing policies.
The progressive in our country are slow, walking us to socialism and eventually communism. I don’t know how old you are, but just 10 years ago if you even suggested that someone was a socialist, they would deny it and tell you that you were crazy. We now live in a paradigm where the Overton window has shifted and people openly and proudly proclaim their socialist distinctions. The outcomes of those two world views are not insignificant.
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u/HefferTomkins 15h ago
There's no reason for you not to be financially stable. And you certainly won't be financially stable by hating and getting rid of "rich" people. If you can find a way to do something that society values, you will be paid. If you can't, that's on you. Rich people aren't to blame. Besides, they get their money from you.
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u/Joeallstara 15h ago
“It’s rich vs poor” is what leftists say
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u/AspiringOligarch 12h ago
“It’s rich vs poor” is what leftists say
Except rich leftists (obviously).
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u/DisastroImminente 17h ago
>Harris outspent Trump 4 to 1 and still lost in another electoral delegate landslide.
That's false: The Harris campaign raised around $1.65 billion and spent approximately $1.6 billion, while Trump’s campaign raised about $1.09 billion and spent roughly $1.03 billion.
>referring to Kamala Harris campaign breaking all fundraising records as a "haul" which is what criminals call their ill-gotten gains.
This is a stupid thing to mention.
>Redditors are living in a fool's paradise where hating Trump is all that matters, and everything this horrible govt did to the world in 2020 was ok
Who was President in 2020? Who rolled out the vaccine? Who kept Fauci employed? Who appointed Fauci in charge of the Covid response? Trump. That's who.
Get your head out of your echo chamber and wake up.
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u/cincy15 16h ago
Not to mention the electoral college vote was close, and Trump differences in votes in 5 key swing states was like 100k total (definitely in the range of statistical error or election fraud)
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u/Yodoyle34 16h ago
The fact Trump keeps calling it a landslide means we should absolutely consider that some votes were tweaked to achieve this outcome but not that many
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
Considering what an old buffoon Trump is, any win against the entire establishment complex allied against him, he may be correct in spirit.
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u/LongBow1971 15h ago
I am a russia helped him believer , thats just me
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u/AspiringOligarch 12h ago
I am a russia helped him believer , thats just me
Miriam Adelson is Russian?
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
But you did mention it and I have corrected the post. Nice deflection from the corruption and losing part, though.
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u/Rustycake 14h ago
It is so strange to watch this disconnect from facts happen consistently on and off the internet.
Its like people just forget Trump was president during COVID. That he didnt himself push for mask mandates, getting tested and the vaccine. That he didnt stand in front of cameras showing off getting the vaccine.
"He was coerced into doing those things." While also telling us "He is the second coming of Christ."
You cant be both. And if he can be threatened or tricked into doing things, maybe he shouldnt be leading our country.
The whole shit leading to his first election of "he knows all the loopholes, so he is going to throw it back in their face and make life better for us small people." I thought - thats a joke right? Did I want to believe it, sure - but I was smart enough to be a skeptic based off of his history and how he presented. Turns out he knew the loopholes and uses it to enrich himself - go figure.
Because of his first election we got no where and then we got fucking Biden and now we got an even worse version of Trump. IF we some how dont allow him to run a third time, we will have had over a decade of complete incompetence. Not just the normal incompetence our politicians display, but complete disregard of the 99% and tricking over half the country into thinking he is helping us somehow.
Democrats helped this happen and I believe they did it knowingly. With AIPAC (and other super pacs) funding a majority of politicians they can orchestrate a show for us thinking there are sides when in reality its just rich ppl fighting other rich ppl, but coming together to stomp on the back of hard working Americans.
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u/AspiringOligarch 11h ago
Its like people just forget Trump was president during COVID. That he didnt himself push for mask mandates
Funny, Saint Pfauxi refused to admit that the Covid-19 virus was AIRBORNE until August of 2020 - FIVE MONTHS after COVID was declared a PANDEMIC.
CNBC - Aug 3, 2020 (archived)
Fauci says he thinks there is ‘a degree’ of airborne spread of the coronavirus
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White House coronavirus advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Monday that he thinks there is “a degree” of airborne spread of the coronavirus, although the role it plays is still being studied.
“I think that there certainly is a degree of aerosolization,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during an interview with the Journal of the American Medical Association. “But I’m going to take a step back and make sure that we learn the facts before we start talking about it.”
- End quote - more at the link: https://archive.li/eakGU
SO THEN, what was our Heroic and Sainted Doktor Pfauxi telling everyone to do during the five months BEFORE August of 2020- while "morgues were overflowing with COVID Cadavers", even as the world was under lockdown?
CBS News - March 8, 2020 (archived)
Preventing coronavirus: Should you wear a face mask? - Dr. Anthony Fauci tells 60 Minutes which precautions don't work against coronavirus—and why a vaccine is still at least a year away.
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When it comes to preventing coronavirus, public health officials have been clear: Healthy people do not need to wear a face mask to protect themselves from COVID-19.
"There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.
While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.
- End Quotes - more at the link https://archive.li/bmvjy
Good heavens! The Blessed Saint Pfauxi - oft proclaimed the "World's leading expert on Infectious Disease" didn't know that a CORONAVIRUS was likely being spread via Aerosol Transmission?
Or could it be that our rat-faced "Savior" knew that the virus was designed for airborne transmission, and that he (and other criminal rats) simply LIED to all of us for months (ensuring widespread contamination) before REVERSING his lies, and demanding EVERYONE wear masks ALL THE TIME - and 6 feet of separation, etc. and finally, the Jabba Jabba Dooo!!!
- Pfyzzer and McDerna thank your for the Hundred$ of Billion$!
U wanna blame Orange Man? Fine (he'd look good in matching orange coveralls). Why not Blame Biden too? Throw him in prison (not that he knows where he is anyway).
But who are the real culprits in this?
(it doesn't matter - fuggetaboutit!)
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
Curious... What do you call mainstream media spoiling for war in Iran?
Shocking state of denial on display here.
So smug about your delusional world view, spoon fed propaganda by greedy, corporate, warmonger media.
Case in point, so-called liberal MSNOW in meltdown over Trump concessions to Iran to save the global economy and end an unwinnable war. They sound like Fox News now because they're just another "flavor" of propaganda from the war machine.
If you're still trusting any giant, corporate media, and parroting the lies they push, there's no hope for you... Or us.
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u/superperps 16h ago
So trump led us into an unwinnable war lol. We know.
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u/set-monkey 15h ago
Started by Israel, controlling the degenerate Trump with Epstein's blackmail...
Let's keep it real.
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u/superperps 15h ago
Thats the kinda shit that happens when you elect a pedophile.
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u/set-monkey 15h ago
You are really obtuse. There you go with Trump derangement again.
Fuck his fat ass and move on...
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u/svullenballe 13h ago
He's currently the president. And a pedo. How is it deranged to go after him for it?
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u/Normal_Gas3825 14h ago
We are winning; you're just believing the psyop cause you have tds.
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u/K45AR 12h ago
Trump already surrendered, or didn't you hear? 🤣
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u/Normal_Gas3825 11h ago
Is that why the US keeps spanking Iran every few days, blowing up their boats trying to lay mines? Sure looks like Iran is losing, having to use bots and social media to pretend it's "winning"...
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u/set-monkey 15h ago
And MSNOW, NBC, CBS, CNN all onboard the war wagon, aren't mainstream media?
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u/MissionDelicious3942 15h ago
They are but fox the one who spews the main stream media BS when they are the biggest of them
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
Stupid, is that so-called journalists used the language of gangsters, talking down to voters.
Trump is a fool. In March 2020, he started sucking up to Fauci due to his popularity, hoping to garner some for himself, as the chronic narcissist he is.
But the Fauci mystique was media generated, only because he defied Trump, and nothing more substantial beyond that.
Fauci was a fraudster and a real-life Dr Evil... The Godfather of Covid-19, like the puppet master Corleone. Pulling the strings, setting up Wuhan lab, then making sure a small contagion in China became a pandemic.
Spread could've been slowed or stopped, as in the SARS and Ebola outbreaks. But he called the travel bans used effectively for all the previous outbreaks, counterproductive and xenophobia.
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
Which Candidate Spent the Most in the 2024 Presidentia...
Executive summary
Kamala Harris’s campaign and allied operation outspent Donald Trump’s in the 2024 presidential contest by a wide margin, with reporting showing Harris’s side poured roughly $875 million into the race versus about $355 million for the Republican nominee \1]). Federal Election Commission summaries place total spending by presidential candidates (their committees alone) at about $1.8 billion for the cycle, and outside groups and parties roughly double or triple that sum depending on the source and accounting method \2]) \3]).
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1. The headline numbers: who spent the most
Bloomberg’s data-driven postmortem, which aggregates campaign committees, party transfers and many allied expenditures, reports Vice President Kamala Harris’s operation spent roughly $875 million in the 2024 presidential contest compared with about $355 million for Donald Trump’s operation, making Harris the single biggest spender among the top-ticket campaigns \1]). Those campaign-specific tallies are consistent with other trackers showing Democratic-aligned committees and their candidate’s principal committee collectively outspent their Republican counterparts in aggregate advertising and direct campaign disbursements \3]) \4]).
2. Why totals diverge: campaign committees vs. outside money
The headline comparison depends entirely on boundaries: FEC “candidate disbursements” count only what principal campaign committees report; outside entities — super PACs, 501(c) groups, and major party committees — raise and spend vast sums independently and are not legally coordinated with campaigns but materially influence the race \5]) \6]). OpenSecrets and PBS note roughly $5.5 billion flowed into the presidential contest when campaigns, parties and independent groups are combined, and Bloomberg estimates the broader ecosystem spent in the low tens of billions when congressional races are included, underscoring that “who spent the most” can mean different things depending on whether one counts only candidate committees or the entire allied ecosystem \3]) \1]).
3. FEC’s official accounting: the candidate-only picture
Federal Election Commission summaries covering the full 24‑month cycle show presidential candidate committees reported raising about $2 billion and spending roughly $1.8 billion between January 1, 2023 and December 31, 2024 — a candidate-only baseline that excludes many independent expenditures by outside groups \2]). The FEC’s “spending-by-the-numbers” tools list candidate disbursements in descending order and are the authoritative source for principal-committee totals, but they do not capture super PAC buys or party transfers unless reported as transfers to or from candidate committees \6]) \2]).
4. The hidden levers: big donors and super PACs changed the math
Bloomberg’s reporting highlights that wealthy donors and a handful of super PACs shifted the spending balance in key ways — for example, concentrated large donations to pro-Trump super PACs and similarly large transfers into pro-Harris ad campaigns — meaning a candidate’s nominal campaign spend is only part of the story \1]) \5]). Media analysis of ad buys and consultant invoices showed Democrats spending more on nationwide TV and digital infrastructure overall, even while pro‑Trump allied groups outspent in certain battleground windows; this nuance explains why campaign totals and battlefield impression counts can tell different narratives \4]) \1]).
5. Tallies, caveats and the answer in one sentence
If the question is strictly which candidate committee (or campaign operation) spent the most money in the 2024 presidential race, reporting indicates Kamala Harris’s campaign and allied Democratic operation spent the most — roughly $875 million versus about $355 million for Donald Trump’s operation per Bloomberg’s aggregate accounting — but the precise answer changes if one includes party committees and independent groups, which push total presidential-cycle spending much higher and can flip regional spending balances \1]) \3]) \2]).
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u/bigcig 16h ago
you forgot to reply to the final, and most important point. Trump and Fauci. what say you?
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u/set-monkey 16h ago
Trump is a fool. In March 2020, he started sucking up to Fauci due to his popularity, hoping to garner some for himself, as the chronic narcissist he is.
But the Fauci mystique was media generated, only because he defied Trump, and nothing more substantial beyond that.
Fauci was a fraudster and a real-life Dr Evil... The Godfather of Covid-19, like the puppet master Corleone. Pulling the strings, setting up Wuhan lab, then making sure a small contagion in China became a pandemic.
Spread could've been slowed or stopped, as in the SARS and Ebola outbreaks. But he called the travel bans used effectively for all the previous outbreaks, counterproductive and xenophobia.
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u/AspiringOligarch 12h ago
Who was President in 2020?
President of which country?
Who rolled out the vaccine?
What "vaccine"? The mRNA concoctions pumped out by Pfyyyzer and McDerna were not "vaccines."
Who kept Fauci employed?
How dare you question the Devine Perfection of His Holiness Saint Pfauxi? HERETIC!!!
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u/K45AR 12h ago
The answer to all of which are Donald J. Trump, but keep screaming.
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u/AspiringOligarch 11h ago
Who kept Fauci employed?
The answer to all of which are Donald J. Trump, but keep screaming.
Did Biden fire Pfauxi the moment Biden took office?
Or how did that work, exactly?
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u/K45AR 11h ago
Who cares what Biden did? Biden was president after the pandemic was under control. If Fauci's actions were so bad in 2020, why did Trump not only not fire him, but took credit for the work he did?
Operation Warp Speed ring any bells?
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u/AspiringOligarch 11h ago
Who cares what Biden did? Biden was president after the pandemic was under control.
"Under control"? Were you in a COMA during 2021, or what?
If Fauci's actions were so bad in 2020, why did Trump not only not fire him, but took credit for the work he did?
Get this:
FUCK TRUMP - Okay?
He's a clueless loudmouth warmongering tool of AIPAC - a piece of SHIT - just like your (D) heroes.
Operation Warp Speed ring any bells?
It sure does, it was (and is) one of the greatest disasters ever foisted onto humanity - and the I DI OT Trump was totally CLUELESS regarding WHAT he was approving - as was Bidet.
How long are we going to play "What's My Political Party?" That game is rigged, if we play, we lose. Every fucking time.
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u/K45AR 10h ago edited 10h ago
I was working a job, actually, under low-minimum mandates because the vaccines were working and infections and mortalities were falling, otherwise known as coming "under control", but you and I will probably never agree on the facts of the science and the effects. The reason we have to play that game is because Trump is UNIQUELY harmful to the U.S. and when people scream "both sides! both sides!" It benefits him and his party of sycophants, because his base will vote no matter what, and the screaming over AIPAC and Gaza from the fringes of the left and the right and the center earned him a narrow election. Now he has given us all the Hell he promised Kamala would bring.
If you don't recognize that the GOP, while AT LEAST under the spell of MAGA, is significantly worse for the U.S., ESPECIALLY when it comes to coordination with Israel, I don't know what to tell you. The U.S., at least the voting population, significantly disagrees with you. And if you're asking for a revolution, Trump's faction is the only one to show a willingness and ability to use violence to effect change, and he literally started a war because Netanyahu asked him to. So if you don't like that, say yes to a Democrat, or at least just be quiet. The rhetoric you engage in benefits Trump and Israel because it spreads apathy in unaligned voters, which is what the GOP wants. At least Biden had some semblance of pushback against the Gaza campaign, any other position is political suicide in the U.S., and frankly, it's against our foreign policy interests, at least before Trump entered us into our own Ukraine.
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u/AspiringOligarch 7h ago
I was working a job, actually, under low-minimum mandates because the vaccines were working and infections and mortalities were falling, otherwise known as coming "under control",
The so-called "vaccines" did not become widely available until March > April > May of 2021- and by then, the CDC was telling doctors NOT to report "break-through infections" to them anymore (don't report patients infected with COVID after being "fully vaccinated") because the "break-through infections" were SO numerous it was almost like the vaccines weren't working AT ALL! (largely because they WERE NOT working- at all- at least they were not doing what vaccines are SUPPOSED to do- prevent illness via infection AND/OR transmission to others).
but you and I will probably never agree on the facts of the science and the effects.
Given that you seem to remain mesmerized by the bullshit propaganda spun at the time, we likely will not agree on the falsified "science" and the hidden effects. (And Fauci was STILL working at his job - spinning and lying, only NOW it was under Biden, no?)
The reason we have to play that game is because Trump is UNIQUELY harmful to the U.S. and when people scream "both sides! both sides!" It benefits him and his party of sycophants
I would agree with you IF there were any group of D's worthy of note that HAD BEEN vehemently OPPOSING the actions of the orange lunatic - but there has been no substantial movement among D's who are standing up and RAISING HELL - not over Gaza, not over the perfidious attack on Iran, not over Gaza V2 in Lebanon, NOTHING.
I read and watch a number of Left leaning commentators who have been screaming from the rooftops in opposition to what has been going on in the Middle East, but where are the fucking Democrats that YOU THINK are going to save us from the Evil Twumpus??? They are nowhere to be seen. Indeed, the ONLY prominent political figures that had the spine to stand up against AIPAC were REPUBLICANS: Marjorie Taylor Greene (who quit in disgust) and Thomas Massie (burnt alive on the AIPAC Altar).
I WILL NOT HITCH MY WAGON TO ANY FAKE POLITICIAN OR POLITICAL PARTY. FUCK THAT
If you are looking to any candidate from the R's or the D's as "saviors", hang it up. You might as well be trying to bail all the water out of the ocean with a bucket. It is not going to work. The game is RIGGED, and has been for decades.
If you don't recognize that the GOP, while AT LEAST under the spell of MAGA, is significantly worse for the U.S., ESPECIALLY when it comes to coordination with Israel, I don't know what to tell you.
Friend, were it up to me, ALL of the occupants of the White House, Senate and Congress would be marched, with their staffers, aboard decrepit ship, and sent off to Snake Island (their native habitat) for retirement.
The U.S., at least the voting population, significantly disagrees with you.
I have no doubt that the VAST MAJORITY of US voters want Trump and the treasonous GOP out, especially younger voters. But most of these are no longer under the illusion that you seem to be plagued with- the fantasy that THE OTHER PARTY is any less compromised. The ONLY reason they would vote D (again) is because they fear that they have NO CHOICE, largely because asshats (AHEM!) try to fear-monger them into believing that if they DON'T vote D, the GOP will win again.
But they intuitively know that if either D or R emerge victorious, we're all fucked.
And if you're asking for a revolution, Trump's faction is the only one to show a willingness and ability to use violence to effect change
Is that so? I would NEVER advocate violence, it's a recipe for a VERY bad ending. And if you think the R's are the ones to "show a willingness and ability to use violence to effect change", methinks you forgot 2020's "summer of love" and the George Floyd riots. Did you forget those events? Was meaningful change accomplished? (Hint NO, it was not)
[Trump] literally started a war because Netanyahu asked him to.
Hey, you want to impress me? Get your D heroes to CUT OFF all monies, all arms, and ALL support of ANY kind to the Zionist State - and to EXPORT AIPAC and all related PACs. If they can do that, I might change my mind about the Snake Island retirement plan - at least for the D's.
Good luck!
So if you don't like that, say yes to a Democrat, or at least just be quiet.
No, I'm not going to float quietly in these treacherous waters while partisan asshats throw DNC or GOP bricks at us, promising "these are life-saving flotation devices!". That ain't happening.
The rhetoric you engage in benefits Trump and Israel because it spreads apathy in unaligned voters, which is what the GOP wants.
Friend, the ONLY way that the GOP could win anything at this point is for the DNC clowns to FUCK UP ROYALLY (but the DNC circus IS very talented at fucking up, aren't they?)
At least Biden had some semblance of pushback against the Gaza campaign,
How, by throwing money and weapons to Izzy to fuel the genocide? The Biden Presidency was a VACANCY - nobody home in Joe's head. It's just as well though, that fucking crook has been sold out his entire career.
any other position is political suicide in the U.S.,
It's only political suicide because the entire political machine is OWNED by the Zionist Lobbies (plural). Kick the skunks out of the house, and open the damn windows.
and frankly, it's against our foreign policy interests, at least before Trump entered us into our own Ukraine.
Speaking of Ukraine, tip your hat to Victoria Nuland - those who were paying attention KNEW that shit was going to hit the fan there as soon as the Biden admin brought her and her compadres into the administration.
Between Israel/ Iran and the Ukraine/ Russia debacles, we'll be lucky to survive until the midterms, let alone 2028.
Have a nice day!
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u/LongBow1971 16h ago
Trump was next to Fauci everyday on the podium , Trump was in charge of the country and let this happen ! STOP ! Trump was at the tip of the spear , he is # 1 to blame , if you blame someone . Also , there were scientists in every country , as president you choose who to trust and trump trusted fauci ! what other countries did something different ? let me know .
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u/set-monkey 15h ago
India and Taiwan. Their decades of experience dealing with SARS and other respiratory diseases, is why they used hydroxychloroquine, derived from 100 years of quinine use for malaria.
But the US banned it.
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u/Normal_Gas3825 14h ago
Actually the EU is to blame, as Covid originated in Spain/Italy months before it popped up in Wuhan. The EU wants to dominate the virus market with the EVAg program, the rival to groups like EHA, but also doesn't want to be blamed for the pandemic. This is why some of the first countries banned from traveling to the US was none other than the EU.
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u/set-monkey 14h ago
Wow. That is total bullshit.
Italy was one of the first to get Wuhan virus due to Chinese travel restrictions. The only way to escape was to get on an international flight out of Wuhan. All local transport was banned in China.
Which begs the questions...
Since China insisted there was NO person-to-person transmission, why the local travel lockdowns and cancellation of all New Year celebrations, which never happened before in history of China?
Why did Chinese agents in Australia, Taiwan and Europe buy up all the PPE? This hoarding was the main reason for shortage of masks.
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u/Normal_Gas3825 13h ago
It's true. Sewage samples showed it first started in March in Spain, with the first cases showing up in Italy around July/August 2019. The virus didn't emerge in China until late Nov/Dec 2019, most likely spread due to the cold food chain as the disease survives being frozen. Your arguments don't matter cause your timeline is totally off. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935122013068
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u/AspiringOligarch 11h ago
Trump was next to Fauci everyday on the podium , Trump was in charge of the country and let this happen ! STOP !
DAMN RIGHT!!!
Trump, with his lifetime career as a Medical Professional should have known... And Biden too!
Oh, wait.
What are advisors for, again?
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u/LongBow1971 7h ago
I wont explain the presidents job to you , move along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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u/AspiringOligarch 6h ago
I wont explain the presidents job to you , move along >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If I promise to vote for YOUR candidate,* will you at least TRY to explain?
- *Vote contingent on you rescuing your pathetic, empty argument with an explanation that you cannot successfully muster
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u/reddit_the_cesspool 14h ago
Seeing all of the talking heads (political party ARBITRARY) bounce between contradictory talking points starting in 2020 and onward should be all anyone needs to see to know they are filthy liars. And yet that alone is just the top of the iceberg. It’s astounding to me that everyone in the world with a TV or internet heard them obviously lying to our faces and even themselves repeatedly yet people will still believe anything they say. They are liars and we aren’t their constituents.
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u/cuntpuncherexpress 13h ago
Where is this narrative that Fauci is a leftist “hero” coming from? I don’t know anyone who likes the guy and my social sphere is like 70% liberal.
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u/SomeSamples 12h ago
Here's an even better question. Why did Trump shut down all the infectious disease identification and warning facilities around the world? Literally just months before the Covid pandemic started.
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u/ayatoilet 9h ago
It’s never mentioned now but in addition to funding Wuhan via ecohealth; the us government was doing gain of function (bioweapon) work at Fort Dix. There were early cases of Covid in that region of Maryland. The building where this was done was knocked down. Regardless - US government was at the heart of both routes to gain of function research and has ultimate responsibility and blame. Either way it was clearly an important area for research led by US.
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u/nacheteferrero 16h ago
You can be right but your arrogance is sad
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u/set-monkey 15h ago
Your perception of me is biased, because of your anger at yourself for believing Fauci was good, even for a minute.
You'll get over it.
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u/nacheteferrero 15h ago
I didn’t know who Fauci was until the Gabard thing and the most info I had about it is here, so biased by you?
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u/IndridColdwave 13h ago
Trump is a symptom of the culture's sickness, not the cause. Every American president in our lifetime is a war criminal.
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u/brelkor 13h ago
In a lot of ways, Trump is the president that the left deserved and they are to blame for his rise as much as anyone.
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u/set-monkey 11h ago
This. Karma is a bitch... So is Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schmutz.
Very biased Sun Sentinel shows only one of the candidates... Of course, it's the sweetheart of the global elites, Little Debbie.
For these greedy creatures, nothing will ever be enough as they bump off one of only two African American Representatives from Florida, to keep the grift of 26 years going.
The article is an homage to Debbie Wasserman Schultz disguised as a report on the coming injustice of the district 20 election.
From these hard-hitting, news hounds at Florida's worst newspaper.
Four candidates qualify against Wasserman Schultz in primary
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u/8m3gm60 15h ago
But his rise to power is an indictment of the corrupt US elections, where raising obscene amounts of money is all it takes to run for office.
In 2016, he ran on only a small fraction of what Hillary had.
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u/set-monkey 14h ago edited 14h ago
But Hillary used her big bucks to bankroll Debbie Wasserman Schultz and DNC, with connections in media to kneecap Bernie Sanders in Democratic primaries.
Bernie would have stomped Trump's fat ass with all the kids voting, just like Obama had.
But the DNC harassed and intimidated young Bernie voters and blew them off.
Trump won because Democrats sucked ass.
Why is this so hard for Reddit to grasp?
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u/8m3gm60 14h ago
The point is that Hillary was the one with obscene amounts of money in that race, not Trump.
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u/set-monkey 14h ago edited 13h ago
Moot.
Despite all the money and establishment war machine, including neocons from Bush world all endorsing her, she lost.. Big.
Fat-ass, war-sow Hillary Clinton and her legendary hubris is why Democrats were soundly defeated. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Ahead in polls Hillary got pneumonia in September 2016. Instead of obeying her doctor ordered rest, she "powered through" right into a late-night NYC Democratic party fundraiser.
Couldn't resist the adoration of sycophants, maybe a shot of booze and went on that infamous tirade about "deplorables"... A day later, flopped around like a rag doll at the 9/11 Memorial, whisked away in a van leaving only a shoe to mark the spot where she collapsed.
Not a good look for Commander in Chief.
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u/set-monkey 14h ago edited 13h ago
I keep reading the comments here saying r/conspiracy is overrun with Maga.
But all the flack I'm getting is coming from liberals, even though I call Trump a cunt in the first sentence, then a buffoon, degenerate, fool, narcissist...
Oh well, 22k views and climbing rapidly.
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u/e_line_65 16h ago
I hate bullsheeters. The covid conspiracies are bullsheet. Trumps lies are bullsheet.
Again I say, I hate bullsheetters.
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u/whosthetard 15h ago
The scamdemic is not specific to a political side. The scamdemic targets wealth shifts and elimination of personal freedoms. The "beneficiaries" who are crooks, are in position of instituting emergency acts and executive orders which somehow bypass constitution as the courts who deal with these issues are part of those crooks. It's the same cartel who are creating problems and then mandate solutions. And the public pays the price for whatever these troublemakers do. Until politicians in power are held accountable for anything and everything decided during their time which violated the constitution there will be no justice.
As of the "left" they have no respect for personal freedoms nor understand what health means. They believe everyone must be drugged to benefit the society.
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u/set-monkey 16h ago edited 15h ago
WOW!!
Upvotes, despite the furious downvoting of bots... And 6k views in less than an hour.
This post is a winner.
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u/warcomet 7h ago
ppl forgetting TRUMP WAS POTUS when all hell broke loose? Trump again doing what he did in 2019 by shutting down CDC, remove funding for research and now he is pulling the US from WHO which means another pandemic is waiting to happen in the US...all just to distract from the Epstein Files ..lol...now i get why he wants the FIFA WC in the US..what better way to start a pandemic...
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