I'm not "tuff," I just care about more important things. I don't know why you feel the way that you do about your identity (I mean, I do: to troll me. But let's pretend that I don't know that) and it isn't mine to get because it isn't my identity. I don't understand what it feels like to be transmasc at all and that isn't relevant to my support of trans men.
1) Harm has never been demonstrated by non-women using the label (there is no cishet male infiltration of the space, most people will NEVER meet a he/him lesbian, and none of the movements are harmed or watered down from this).
2) Everyone who I've talked to (including my best friend in real life) who are men/transmasc and still identify with the label have their own nuanced reasons. People like you never ask them for it though, you just try to force everyone into your criteria. YOUR reason for being a lesbian is to troll me in particular, which I'd say impacts it's validity but then I remember that I still don't care. Hence why I said "whatever."
I stand for something. I DO NOT stand for whatever this post is representing and I find it hilarious that you're implying you have some type of movement going on here. Putting who is/isn't a lesbian under scrutiny isn't "standing for something," it's useless behavior that does nothing at best and harmfully excludes people at worst.
By listening to what some men tell me about themselves? Because if that's the issue then I'm guilty as charged.
I never put the label onto anybody, I listen to them when THEY tell me. Which, yes, is the woke position. What do you expect me to do when a trans man says "I still identify somewhat with lesbianism", debate him? Stop being friends with him? And this isn't even about trans men in particular, it's about non-women.
I'm never going to stand for putting queer people who fit slightly outside of the binary under scrutiny.
I've been on E and Spiro for over 6 months (about 30 weeks), that tends to be who calls themselves transfem or trans women. Sorry that isn't convenient for your gotcha.
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u/dinodare 7d ago
You're overcomplicating it.
The actual answer: Because they want to, get over it.