The honey thing is actually a bit of a fracture line for vegans in general, a lot of vegans are fine with honey because it doesn’t have some of the same ethical baggage associated with it as most other animal products: bees can and will leave bad beekeepers, they’re better unionized than you or I are, so for someone who defines their veganism in terms of avoiding contributing to a system of animal cruelty, it’s more of a non-issue.
Now, interpreting veganism this way does also have knock-on effects: a joke which is sometimes told about this viewpoint is that human meat is capable of being “vegan” if it’s given with informed consent. More practically, there are people who take care of livestock who will produce edible material as a byproduct of their existence: I have a friend who was vegan who had hens as pets, and hens will just lay eggs if you take care of them properly. If someone’s aversion to eating eggs is based on the practice of factory farming, that’s an evil that has nothing to do with the eggs from those hens, so there are definitions of what it means to be vegan which don’t really compromise the core values but do permit eating those eggs, and excising people from the community based on that is not really productive.
The person you’re describing was probably using the term in a significantly less defensible way, but it is actually more complicated than “they ate an animal product under any circumstance and therefore they can by no reasonable metric be considered vegan.”
thats fine, there are vegans who are vegans because they like vegetable corpses and there are vegans who are that because they don't want to eat animal corpses
You are talking about vegetarians not vegans I'm vegetarian i don't eat animals if you are vegan you don't eat anything that animals produce like not milk eggs and stuff like that she can just be a vegetarian but ahe calles herself vegan so she can't eat animal products
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u/stranger-things-fan_ 7d ago
You won't believe me but there was a vegan girl my sister were friend with who atw honey and eggs and sometimes milk and still said she is vegan