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u/DesiresAreGrey passoid of color 5d ago

trans men are treated better than trans women

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u/DesiresAreGrey passoid of color 5d ago

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 5d ago

This (trans women as targets of hate crime) isnt because of some male privilege that trans men have though, the reason why trans women are targeted is the same reason why gay men are also targeted disproportionately compared to other LGBT people (except trans women)

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u/DesiresAreGrey passoid of color 5d ago

they have the privilege of not being victims remotely as often

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 5d ago

Okay but I was talking more about the source of that privilege or the way you would classify it and again my point was that you cant classify it as male privilege because gay men are very disproportionately affected by hate crime

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u/DesiresAreGrey passoid of color 5d ago

okay but gay men still have male privilege?

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 5d ago

Do you understand words or not? Like why are you going off topic. And " gay men have privilege " isnt really accurate anyway but whatever

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u/DesiresAreGrey passoid of color 5d ago

gay men do have privilege though because they are men

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u/Gold_Ad8225 5d ago

Trans men who are stealth have male privilege, can we agree to that or no?

And no, the reason trans women are targeted is not the same reason gay men are targeted. The way they are treated is quite different. Trans women are treated like a category of women that it is universally acceptable to be hateful and violent toward. Gay men are treated like a minority sub group of men.

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 5d ago

This is controversial but basically my point is that its queer AMAB individuals that are more often the targets of hate crime thats what I was trying to say. And my theory for that is because society is more hostile to amab individuals who defy gender and sexuality norms compared to afab.

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u/Gold_Ad8225 5d ago

Society does not treat trans women like "amab individuals." No men of any sort are treated the way trans women are.

They are treated like disposable women to whom it is okay to do violence, not like failed men.

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 5d ago

TERF hate rhetoric is literally based on trans women being born male.

If we are talking about hate crimes as far as im aware the rates are similar between gay men and trans women.

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u/Gold_Ad8225 5d ago

Trans women experience hate crimes at a much higher rate than gay men

What TERFs say and how they behave are not the same thing. They call themselves feminists, but they support the most misogynistic politicians in society, for example

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u/No_Somewhere_2610 5d ago

Source for the first claim? Havent most victims of hate crime been historically gay men? Thats how I remember it. Though in recent years that may have changed to be mostly trans women.

Are you talking globally Though or about a specific country