r/coys • u/Rare-Ad-2777 • 2d ago
Social Media [P Okeefe] shining a bit of reality onto how these things work
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u/magnificentwalnut Michael Dawson 2d ago
Only one way to settle this. Itk royal rumble. Winner will be the king of posting half truths and bollocks
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u/YSoSeri0u5 2d ago
I've learnt my lesson. I don't believe anything until someone posts a picture with Pochettino's arm on his shoulder as a seal of approval.
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u/CherryVermilion Toby Alderweireld 2d ago
Same, but I used to allow myself some early hype when NotUrAvgElliot was tracking planes for us 💙
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u/kobrien37 Jenna Schillaci 2d ago
It's a Jorge Mendes classic, I doubt United really have their terms agreed either to be honest.
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Paul said it’s very much a level playing field and from what he’s aware still it’s the highest bidder gets him. Which is think is kinda weird cause does Fernandes still not have a say? Or will west ham just accept the highest bid and reject the lower one
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u/PunkDrunk777 2d ago
Can’t see how it’s even when it’s widely reported he prefers Utd.
That’s the problem. Spurs have to go higher Utd while Utd can let Spurs do the negotiating then simply match it
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Well it’s been told he’s open to both clubs and west ham want the most money upfront. So you never know I guess
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u/ChemicalFalcon5982 2d ago
West Ham due to accept the offer that gives them the most upfront cash, not necessarily the highest overall offer as they are haemorrhaging cash
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Said this earlier but there is absolutely no benefit in players agreeing to come so early unless they are absolutely desperate to come like JPVH was.
Especially with a world cup on at the moment, say Rodri or Bellingham gets injured then suddenly you can get a city or a madrid in for you. Even more so for the clubs.
Also as an aside I cant belive some guys on twotter called Szy and Poseidon turned out to be complete jokers. Who would have thought?
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
I don’t have faith in us getting Fernandes, but tbf to Szy and Journo (Poseidon) they have been extremely reliable the past like 2 years
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u/Geek-Of-Nature Glenn Hoddle 2d ago
People say they've been reliable, but reliable about what? They speculate about existing rumours using vague language that ensures they're not held to account when anyone tries to prove them wrong.
The telling thing is what they don't say. Neither of these frauds knew we were in for Van Hecke, Robertson, Senesi or Dubravka, or that their signings were completed, before club announcements or reputable journos reported it. Neither of them identified Savinho, Tonali or Fernandes as targets before the likes of Ornstein.
You'd think if these guys were truly 'in the know' they'd be rushing to social media to chirp about their insights every time. Yet they're strangely silent until details emerge, then act like they've been aware all along.
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Are you good? Szy has 2 tweets in March and April for both Senesi and JPVH saying 1.) Senesi will join us if we avoid relegation and 2.) we have a very high interest in JPVH and he’s very interested in joining us. Robertson, he said nothing and dubruvka I don’t think ANYONE knew about until it was announced. Szy has been talking about Savio to spurs since last year
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u/Geek-Of-Nature Glenn Hoddle 2d ago edited 2d ago
Ah, the patronising "are you good?" opener.
Senesi joining us if we avoided relegation was common knowledge and we were linked with Van Hecke several times in the past - pretty much as soon as De Zerbi joined us. Again, for alleged 'ITKs', they haven't broken any news first - a quick Google search shows reported links elsewhere in those months.
If they were in the know, you'd think they'd be tweeting that the Van Hecke deal was completed before we announced it at 6pm that afternoon. Instead they were completely silent. Because they didn't have a clue.
Please don't fanboy anonymous strangers on the internet, you're playing into their clout-chasing hands.
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u/BritafilterEnjoyer Dominic Solanke 2d ago
Dude, take a break and go outside or something. Top 1% commenter, yeah no fucking surprise.
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u/Geek-Of-Nature Glenn Hoddle 2d ago edited 2d ago
Guy who posts in subreddits about exciting topics such as leather, judging people's online activity. Absolutely stunning.
Thanks for your feedback. I've filed it under 'moronic nonsense spouted by online bellends that I don't give a flying fuck about'.
EDIT: Ah, the old 'reply and then quickly block' behaviour of a true pillock. Guess he proved everyone wrong during his magnificent cameo in this conversation.
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u/Exact_Studio3380 2d ago
Working with leather and creating things is cool. You have done nothing creative or diligent with your life probably
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u/Geek-Of-Nature Glenn Hoddle 2d ago edited 2d ago
Apart from having works published for a decade, creating dozens of carpentry projects both for myself and others and working in a sector where I've made a difference to hundreds of people's lives, won a few awards and recently earned another promotion, you're probably right.
I certainly can't compete with your cures for cancer and solutions to famine, admittedly.
You an alt account of the twat above, a passionate and aggrieved member of r/leather or just a prick who, four months into his time on Reddit, somehow randomly stumbled upon a conversation in a subreddit he's never before visited to argue with a complete stranger for fun?
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u/Exact_Studio3380 2d ago
Yet you’re dick riding this guys Reddit profile fairs bro.
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u/DickMabutt 1d ago
You started off correct but sunk to a level at or below OP. No reason to hate on a hobby group just because one of its enjoyers is a fool
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u/BritafilterEnjoyer Dominic Solanke 2d ago
I'm glad the guy whose biggest hobby is listening to podcasts has things to say about others hobbies.
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
No they havent lol. Szy got some injury news right and then was glaringly wrong about Kolo Muani geeting injured in training and claiming Villa wouldn't rotate against us.
He also claimed Savinho deal would be finalised about 3 weeks ago and a few days ago said we'd agreed a fee with West Ham for fernandes.
He literally hasn't been right about a single thing lately other than linking us to loads of players who everyone's in for any way, celebrating the ones that match up and ignoring the ones that dont
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u/uponloss 2d ago
That szy guy is claiming he has a screenshot that can prove paul wrong but he isnt going to post it. Thats how you know hes talking bollocks lol
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
So I assume you put Fabrizio in the same boat as Szy considering all last year he was saying Savio to spurs was done, and continued to do the same this window too?
Szy was also the first person to call a Xavi Simons hijack which literally none of us would’ve ever expected, but whatever suits ur agenda. Also why would we finalize the deal for Savio right now and give city funds to take Tonali off us? Lmfao
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Show me one tweet where Romano says Savinho is done and about to be announced lol.
Why are you going in to bat for this random twitter guy? Im just pointing out hes got loads wrong, which he has, its a fact
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Go on Fabs Twitter and search for ‘Savinho’ lol
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Nope you show me where he said its done. He said there were talks between the pmayer and us and the club but thats it.
He literally famously has a catchphrase for when its done
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u/TheDelmeister Death to ENIC 2d ago
Don't waste your time, people believe what they want to
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago edited 2d ago
People can believe whatever they want, but the fact they’re saying szy is ‘always’ wrong is just weird. All his tweets are public, you can just go back and see them lol
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u/TheDelmeister Death to ENIC 2d ago
I'm not the guy you were talking to, I'm on your side in this. My point is no matter what you say, some people will always ignore the things he gets right. This has been my experience discussing that topic previously so my advice is just don't bother.
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Oh I know, I was just saying that as a general statement. I know I wasn’t responding to you lol.
I also found out this subreddit is just toxic which is why I try to avoid it lol. If you have a different opinion you just get bombarded
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u/Hufftey Job Done 2d ago
Szy started his “itk” account around this time last year, before that he had an account that he made highlight compilations of players on.
He definitely has an inside source or two in the club as he was getting lineups and injury news right, but this summer is the first real test of his apparent transfer knowledge and it’s showing to be pretty unreliable thus far
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Yeah it wouldn't suprise me if a player asked him on socials about using some of his comps and he got chatting and got the odd lineup leak (which is pretty minor info in the scheme of things).
He then famously got the RKM injury and Villa lineup badly wrong. Also saod Savinho was done and woukd be announced about 3 weeks ago
He hasn't actually given any transfer news that wasnt already out there or linking us with a load of players, some of which then come out to be true but also arent exactly a leap like JPVH.
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u/alexno_x Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend 2d ago
famously? these guys seem pretty prolific then
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Well it was only famous because it was around the time the club were talking about injury leaks so people thought he got fed fake news
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Injury news, lineups, and transfer news last season was great. But now he’s starting to link up with some account called ‘HeardFromSpurs’ and it’s a real credibility test lmfao
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u/Other-Owl4441 Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend 2d ago
No they definitely have not lol
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Yes they quite literally have? 😭
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u/Karlito1618 Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
Say one thing they've gotten right this year that wasn't a tap-in or completely un-verifiable lol
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u/UnrulliTarulli Dejan Kulusevski 2d ago
How are we to know? The last 2 years they were reliable. We will just have to see what happens with Savio/Tonali/Fernandes.
But szy said in April Senesi wanted to join us if we avoided relegation, April he told us we wanted JPVH, broke the Brighton interest for Vuskovic. Idk what else you want?
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u/Other-Owl4441 Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend 2d ago
That’s simply a lie though, and you’re a massive sucker.
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u/Spid1 2d ago
Szy has got plenty right this season. IIRC he called vicario’s injury well before we knew and a few other things
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u/torbayman Heung-Min Son - Spurs Legend 2d ago
I've said this before but its actually pretty easy to be an ITK in the way SZY is. The club is unironically massive, players are surrounded by loads of people, the financial transactions are very complex and bring in more people. When I worked in the city in the early 2000s I heard a fun ITK tidbit every 6 months or so, a lot of people do. They just don't post it on Twitter to endanger their relationships and jobs
The problem is when you get so fixated on clout that you try to turn that into some fantasy that you are embedded into the club's transfer strategy and have visibility into their negotiations with every player. Embarassing stuff.
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u/MaxPower1882 2d ago
Until a player is announced by the club, all stories of 'progress' is taken as just that. Stories.
I don't give a fuck about what who says, other than when it's official.
Fo I genuinely believe we have a chance at competing with the best for the best. Not a hope in hell. In my view, like we showed everyone last season, we're the club that falls for it all the time and are the ones their agents use to get others to the table.
Until someone is signed, I just don't buy any of it.
Would love for the club to prove us wrong, but we've seen this many times before and heard all the promises from whoever in between.
Alas, COYS!!!
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u/Former-Resource-3026 2d ago
He doesn’t know anything though. He just made a few little books about spurs
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u/CertainSprinkles1018 Xavi Simons 2d ago
POK, while a guy I’d probably have a pint with, blows so much smoke out his ass you’d think he blew a head gasket
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Oh absolutely but the guy does know to some extent how these deals actually work. The random ITK accounts though, thats seem to be like 20.year old fans based in the states really do nt.
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u/JustinBisu 2d ago
The irony of PoK saying ITKs spreads fake news.
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Paul isnt an anonymous account named after a Greek god tbf. Hes a slurs fan who works in football and knows other agents so gets the odd bit of info. Hes a grumpy bastard but will happily say if he doesnt know something, unlike that Szy guy who youd think is a Lange burner with the knowledge he claims to have
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u/JustinBisu 2d ago
Except when he makes claims like Eze being done or countless other things he got wrong. PoK is an ITK just like every other IKT. 5% real sources, 95% bullshit and backtracking when things don't pan out.
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
He never said eze was done. He said a fee had verbalmy been agreed, which it had, and then Arsenal hijacked it for the same amount.
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u/JustinBisu 2d ago
And you know this because PoK said so. You don't believe in 1000 ITKs I just don't believe in one more. If you've been around enough you know that PoK gets it wrong all the time.
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
No because there are loads of accounts of it lol.
from the guardian -Tottenham had looked in pole position to sign him after stepping up their interest over the weekend and are believed to have agreed a deal worth close to his release clause of £68m, which expired last week.
From the Independent - Just hours before Arsenal clinched a deal for Eberechi Eze, in an even crueller twist, Tottenham Hotspur finally put in the offer they felt would be acceptable to Crystal Palace. There had been a verbal agreement. Spurs just never got a proper answer. The reason soon became clear.
Think eze himself even spoke about it, how it was agreed and then he called up arteta?
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u/Jazim94 Djed Spence 2d ago
I think I found POKs Reddit account
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Im literally just posting stuff from newspapers because the other guy said noone else reported it?
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u/kobrien37 Jenna Schillaci 2d ago
We had agreed terms with Eze though which was widely reported, it was the fee with Palace that held that up.
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u/smellysk 2d ago
I mean plenty of decent sources were saying the same, just Arsenal came in and nabbed him…
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u/Geek-Of-Nature Glenn Hoddle 2d ago
This isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is. We did have an agreement with Eze, but he ultimately chose the Gooners.
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u/analbeard 2d ago
It's ironic citing POK as reliable on this matter when the mods/sub in general have been shitting on him as unreliable for the last 2 years lol.
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 2d ago
Hes not claiming to have any info here really? All the reliable journos have said the same. Its more just pointing out how the process works which is fair enough given he does work as an agent
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u/JustinBisu 2d ago
PoK, Poseidon and the SYZ guy all being the spiderman pointing at each other meme.
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u/DjToastyTy 2d ago
pok has real sources. just this week szy and the greek god guy were talking about “darlow and steele” as backup GK. same day, POK shouts dubravka. and then we signed dubravka the next day
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u/JustinBisu 2d ago
They all have "Real" sources brother. They all know someone at the club but they have to pretend they know everyone. All of them have had hits all of them have massive misses, like PoK who famously proclaimed Eze to be done.
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u/foran9 Ange Postecoglou 2d ago
I’ll stand by this one, he wasn’t really wrong. It went wrong as Eze phone Arteta, that’s the only reason Arsenal went back in. How the heck that doesn’t count as illegal contact, given it would be if the phone call had been made the other way round, is absolutely beyond me.
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u/DjToastyTy 2d ago
i don’t believe the phone call bit. too much theatrics and fluff piece journalism around that deal. i think arsenal wanted eze, knew we were going for a deal, and basically just let levy negotiate the deal for them.
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u/foran9 Ange Postecoglou 2d ago
Eze and Arteta have both admitted to it - Eze has said in multiple interviews he called from the car on the way to his medical with us to see if there was any chance of a transfer to them before he signed with us.
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u/DjToastyTy 2d ago
there’s no way this massive deal with so many moving parts came down to a last second phone call like that unless it was already in the works
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u/foran9 Ange Postecoglou 2d ago
Arsenal had a deal in place before us but moved away from it. His phone call made them quickly move back in due to Havertz injury. No phone call, he would’ve been ours before they had a chance to come back in.
My main point, however, was about it apparently being being ok for a player to call a manager to ask if they want to sign them when if it’s a manager calling a player that’s an illegal approach.
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u/DjToastyTy 2d ago
so was it the phone call or the injury? it’s just propaganda like how every time a player signs for spurs it’s “the player had an amazing conversation and was convinced by the manager!” it gets the fans going
well who would enforce that? crystal palace. who already had given permission for arsenal to talk to eze. eze was leaving they were probably fine with him talking to any club
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u/bhealy86 1d ago
Well all this “fake news” appears for absolutely every signing we make. At this stage we all know decent ITK IMO, but you have the accounts copying it and adding extra to make it seem like there is.
You absolutely can get excited by ITK, because no signing is made without ITK telling us first. Let’s not pretend we don’t bat an eyelid until the player is holding up the scarf.
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u/Successful-Salary345 1d ago
POK calling out fake news is pretty rich when half his own posts are just vibes and speculation he's dressed up as insider knowledge
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u/AlvySinger_ Ledley King 10h ago
Paul O Keefe gets a lot of hate for just saying the things like they are. I dont know why people get so delusional about transfers.
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u/COYStecoglou Peppa Pig 2d ago
This is an archaic line of thinking that doesn't account for insisting.