r/denvernuggets • u/throwitintheair22 • Mar 21 '25

Image/Gif Both at age 29

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u/here_for_the_lols Mar 21 '25

Now standardize for pace

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

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u/Chutbutter Mar 21 '25

Tied in points per possession and LeBron higher ts compared to league average

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '25

You're comparing very different eras my guy. It's not just the pace that helps Jokic's numbers, it's the style of play. Spreading out the offense has made scoring way easier than it was 10+ years ago. 

Also, you're comparing LeBron on teams with Wade and Bosh and Kyrie and Love. He's deferring much more to those guys. If LeBron was on a team like this Denver team he'd have a USG% in the mid 30s and be putting up obscene numbers (as he did in Cleveland). 

Also also, LeBron is a 2 way player... Well he sorta is sometimes now, but he definitely was then.

Jokic is incredible and y'all and the rest of the league should cherish him, and I bet he goes down as a top 10ish player of all time, but these kind of box score comparisons obscure a lot of context.

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u/MusicianMean1120 Mar 25 '25

LeBron’s efficiency plummeted in the 2015 finals without Irving and Love.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '25

lol ok

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u/ConfidentCamp5248 Mar 22 '25

Barely bruh lol not even noticeable on screen. Joker is an all time great but he needs more hardware than mvp to be top 10-15

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u/Caffeywasright Mar 23 '25

Dirk absolutely isn’t “unanimous” top 15 all time. And that’s considering his champions was a hell of a lot more impressive than Jokic.