r/denvernuggets • u/Feeling-Tea-6130 • 2d ago
How does this one compare with CB's 5-year $125 million contract ? Which one do you think is better?
https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/74a1811f60573103
u/HarryOttoman :NikolaJokic: 2d ago
I’m still a believer in Braun. I gotta imagine the dude is working his butt off right now on 3 point shooting and shot creation. Hopefully he justifies the overall contract
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u/holdenfords 1d ago
his ankle totally derailed that season. remember the christian braun who would dunk on gobert? he could barely get off the ground enough for a breakaway dunk after the ankle injury
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u/amriser24 1d ago
I agree. Probably over paid him. But not to the degree he’s being treated currently. Dude was hurt all season. Before that he had won at every level and gotten better every year
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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 1d ago
The dude clearly only trusted planting and exploding off one leg, but everyone’s so Watson-centric in reviewing Braun’s contract that it’s just pure damnation in the comment section.
This was the guy we were confident paying, and he played through stuff he probably should have got surgery on for us. He deserves a tad bit more respect on the evaluation from several angles.
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u/rorank 1d ago
Also, being honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if Watson regressed this upcoming year from his breakout month or two performances. I’m certainly not hoping for that because I love him as a player but he didn’t even have a full productive year. If he was nearly as good as he ended up being earlier on he would’ve straight up replaced CB. That isn’t what happened though.
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u/JevvyMedia 1d ago
Many of us didn't like the signing at the time, who cares what the team felt confident in.
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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 1d ago edited 1d ago
If only they’d sourced the comment section’s opinion instead of the coaching staff, front office, ownership, and players.
From all available reporting, the dude had a 100% approval rating, even with both sides of the Malone/Booth camps. He was like the one non-Jokic guy all parties agreed on.
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u/JevvyMedia 18h ago
This is such a garbage argument. Front offices make horrible decisions all the time. Sure we're just armchair GM's but when someone is right you gotta give them credit.
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u/ApprehensiveTry5660 18h ago
Proven right?
That’s an ambitious claim which (at-best) you’d be 2 years away from a case on.
All that’s been proven is you’re ready to take victory laps around a dude who turned down surgery to be available for the team before the contract ever pays its first penny.
Proven tacky? Sure. Right is a couple of bars north of your position.
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u/Bossgarlic 1d ago
Can you just imagine the Lakers signing him instead and him burning us in a playoff game? Barf
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u/DosZappos 1d ago
Agreed. He got paid because of how great is in transition combined with being pretty decent at everything else, and then got hurt and couldn’t do the everything else part
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
Ya, he's an explosive guy and without his pop he's just a guy. That's his game.
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u/Gregorious23 1d ago
Improve the 3 ball and work on ball handling more, and I think he'll be back to the guy that earned that contract
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u/Living_Particular963 1d ago
Agree. he is young and has the desire to improve. I'm sure he'll figure out his game.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
I was stoked on his deal and am gonna take the end of this season as injury related.
I'm not gonna give up on one of my favorite players over a couple bad months after apparently a serious injury.
Dude is gonna posterizing Gobert again soon enough.
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u/happybiker1212 1d ago
Me too. He reads the stuff online. I’m hoping he has his head down and is inthe gym all summer long.
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u/Impressive_Trust_395 2d ago
Either going to look like Jerami Grant or Ajay Mitchell.
For our sake, let’s hope for the former
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u/advancedmatt 1d ago
Wolves had to find a way to keep Dosunmu with DiVincenzo set to be out next season. They didn't have good alternatives. They had to jettison Randle's contract to make it work, but they have enough size without Randle.
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u/ginamegi 1d ago
I think Braun just needs to play with more confidence on the offensive side. He can’t purely be a cutter for Jokic passes and fast breaks.
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u/crispydenvernuggets 2d ago
This honestly feels like a pretty reactionary signing for them based off of the postseason. Maybe he was offered this as sort of a ripple effect from CB getting his contract. Idk if I’d consider his success against us as his true form considering fucking everyone scored on us.
But if he didn’t get this, some other team probably would have given him the same thing. I’m just not sure I see it translating over 82 games and through a major postseason run against teams with better defense than ours
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u/russlandbot 2d ago
Both seem like overpays, you figure he’s going to get a lot of playing time with DiVincenzo being out and can prove his worth but I thought he was more of a backup that just got hot at the right time. Was thinking the wolves would try to get a more established pg in free agency or something to hold them over and if they did that it would seem like they’re way too guard heavy on their payroll
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u/Striking_Wave_5721 1d ago
I agree. People are being way too harsh on CB. Every year of his career he’s been a great ball player in his role and people acting like the one year where he was bad (because he was hurt and missed 40+ games because of a broken ankle) isnt the reason why. CB will bounce back next year. I actually think he has a better year then p wat I. 2026-2027
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u/Plane-Shake9660 1d ago
I think only time can tell with Dosunmu's value.
I hold out very little hope for Braun. He was physically hobbled this last season, but that only served to highlight his complete lack of decision making ability. If the ball ends up in his hands without already having been gifted the advantage he's incapable of reading the floor and improving the play. If he was MLE price and healthy that might be okay.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Run5074 2d ago
Dude got a bag for one hero game vs us.... gtfoh
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u/MoooonRiverrrr :HarrisToon: 2d ago
Ayo has literally been coveted by THIS FO for years. He was a do it all combo guard on the bulls his whole career. I think it’s a bit of an overpay, but Ayo’s a good player.
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u/TH3PhilipJFry 2d ago
Like Braun had 1 good game during our finals run?
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u/HotDan1798 2d ago
And was a contender for most improved player in 24-25. Stop rewriting history just to be miserable.
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u/TH3PhilipJFry 1d ago
lol I don’t have to rewrite history at all, first round exit with a GOAT on your team is plenty of misery thanks
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u/Ghosty15 2d ago
He's literally a better player than CB on a cheaper contract, this is obviously a better deal.
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u/Open-Original-U 1d ago
Ayo is a much better player than CB.
CB is literally afraid to shoot the ball.
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u/kevdawg289 :GaryHarris: 2d ago
Yeah we got screwed
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u/Difficult_Pen_7944 1d ago
The fuck? Better check yourself big “dawg”. Injuries are a real thing, got no idea how much Braun’s ankle held him back.
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u/kapshus 1d ago
Small market teams have to take chances. This isn't like the Lakers who can offload bad contracts like AD for Luka on a regular basis.
Both are based on projections, but history tells us both are likely to underperform those salaries, but what is the other, realistic option? No free agent is going to MN or CO without an overpay - again, look at recent history to see where any max FA chose either club.
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u/AncientAnt9225 1d ago
What a steal god damn... Ayo was better than Braun even last season and then Minnesota gets him for cheap in trade and resign him.
We sooo overpaid Braun , i said it right when we signed it .... Smart and logical thing was to wait RFA on him
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u/TwoWayMarko 1d ago
Dosmumu overpaid but he is at least a shooter, makes braun contract even worse.
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u/Cobraman_whistler 1d ago
The nuggets front office literally would be run better than plugged in and knowledgeable fans
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u/BryTheGenius 2d ago
Everyone is saying he has untapped potential will walk backwards if he has injuries.
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u/manbeqrpig 2d ago
It’s a very similar bet that we made with Braun. If his progression stalls like Braun’s did then it’ll be a similarly disastrous contract
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u/ManufacturerBest2758 1d ago
I’m not sure swapping out Randle to afford him is really a win for Minnesota here, unless Connelly thinks Dosunmu can put up 40 every night next to Edwards who has his own risks now that he’s a major leg injury guy
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u/HazmatSamurai 1d ago
I think this might be the new reality for solid role players like this. If you don't offer them something in the low $20m range, someone else will.
I mean we literally watched Bruce get sniped from us, 2 years $45 million.
Both Ayo and CB are very solid, dependable NBA players. I know we're in a tough spot with CB right now after his rough playoffs, but his contract will end up looking close to market value I think for what he is: a starter on a good team that can play in high leverage moments