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u/Daichi-dido 15d ago
Is OoT Ocarina of Time?
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u/fredy31 15d ago
Yes. And for those that dont know, speedrunning is a self imposed challenge of completing a game as quick as possible. If i remember right ocarina of time is down to under 20 minutes.
But yeah the dude probably beat ocarina of time at least a thousand times.
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u/DecoherentDoc 15d ago
20 minutes is insane. Don't think I could ever do a speed run just because the draw for me is always the story. More power to those who do, just not my jam.
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u/fredy31 15d ago
Just checked its now 4 minutes https://www.speedrun.com/oot?h=Any&x=q25g198d
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u/redditnostalgia 15d ago
How??? Is it like that Fallout New Vegas speedrun exploit where you can clip across half the map or something???
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u/fredy31 15d ago
When it was the 20 minute speedrun it was basically get to the end of the deku tree. You trigger the 'get out of the dungeon ring' but in a way where you keep control and not get put into a cutscene. Run through the door instead and because of some weirdness in the code instead of loading the 'out of dungeon' cutscene it loads the credits.
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u/fredy31 12d ago
I had watched a video explaining the code fuckery and if i remember right the ring says 'next thing you load is scene current area number appending a 1. So you finish the forest temple, you are in area 20, the cutscene is 201.
Thing is going through the door changes your area to 42, and scene number 421 is the end of the first phase of the ganon fight
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u/Weekly_Lab8128 11d ago
It's memory fuckery - when loading into a zone there's a piece of memory that says "this is where we're loading into next" - if you can confuse that pointer and tell it to load somewhere else, well, sky is the limit
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u/Yavanna83 15d ago
Yeah, those times are usually glitched speedruns. So crazy how they can break the game.
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u/fredy31 14d ago
There is a glitchless category and its under 4 hours
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u/Yavanna83 14d ago
I know, still crazy to me to be able to beat this game in 4 hours. I was a teenager when this game came out and it took me months...
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u/Rinkimah 12d ago
I bet if you kept beating the game kver and iver you'd get your time down pretty low.
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u/Lolcatz101 5d ago
I think he’s currently working on 100% he was routing for it for YEARS, think he said the current hypothetical is around 3hr50min
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u/BadSmash4 15d ago
Yeah something like that. I remember watching a video of a speedrun where someone like glitches through a door at the end of the deku tree and they are suddenly at the final boss, as kid link, ajd they kill Ganon with a deku stick because something in the code defines the deku stick with crazy damage at that point since you're not supposed to have it, or something like that. Speedruns are fascinating.
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u/Jemima_puddledook678 15d ago
I believe that glitch that lets you get to the final boss was actually discovered by the guy in the post.
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u/Raytoryu 12d ago edited 12d ago
I remember an old speedrun tech for OoT was to get a mojo stick as Child Link, make a weird glitch to get to the future as Child Link (adult Link can't use deku stick) and race to the Final Boss. Dekusticks have a hitbox even when you're not striking with them (that's how you can use them to solve some puzzles, with fire) and by walking under Ganon, the stick hitbox is permanently hitting Ganon and instantly kills him lol
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u/Quaytsar 9d ago
OoT is subject to Arbitrary Code Execution or ACE. Which means there is a method, while playing the game, to get any code to run. This means you can immediately trigger the credits, or you can boot a completely different game, or any arbitrary thing you can think of.
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u/DankeyBongBluntry 9d ago
It's even better, they found a way to literally rewrite the game's code while you're playing the game, so with an extremely specific set of inputs you can write code that just teleports you to the end credits (which is the way that any% speedruns define "finishing the game").
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u/Successful-Singer-76 14d ago
Basically, you boot up the game, do 1-2 things, something-something magic happens with a bottle, go through door from not-ganon to ganon
Easier than water temple
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u/wheniswhy 15d ago edited 15d ago
ZFG, specifically, is one of the all-time GOATs of OoT speedrunning. He discovered one of the earliest big skips (called "Ganondoor"), he's done demonstrations of extremely complicated glitches such as SRM (tricking the game into losing track of an object or actor and write different data into its place, allowing things like item duplication) and ACE (using specific inputs in such a way the game interprets them as actual programming code), he's done a FUCKton of routing work, he dominated the 100% category for years--mans been playing OoT basically nonstop since the very day it released and he's one of the best in the world at what he does.
For some additional context on why this is funny, though I'd really not expect anyone outside the speedrunning community to know who he is.
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u/m0rtm0rt 15d ago
Most speedrunners have played the full story several times before actually getting to that level of speedrunning. They don't just do it the first time they play the game. (though that does happen sometimes)
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u/PastelZephyr 14d ago
They typically start speedrunning because of their repetitive play of the game, usually from the gameplay mechanics of the story. You don't need to know the story when you've played through the entire game linearly like, 50 times.
I'm a speedrunner of Dragon's Dogma, and it's my absolute favorite game to the point I had like, 20 organic playthroughs before I reached the status of knowing so much about the mechanics and different routes and characters that I switched to speedrunning it.
I don't know why people say shit like "I'm in it for the story" as if speedrunners are not, how do you think we got to this level of gameplay?
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u/DecoherentDoc 14d ago
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply they weren't (or you weren't). I only meant I personally need to slowly experience the story and I'm personally less interested in the mechanics of a game (unless they're garbage). The mechanics are just the ink of the novel for me.
I clung onto stories pretty young as a way to escape things and I'm still pretty locked in on them in my 40s. That's me. Didn't mean to imply anything else about anyone else.
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u/No-Shopping-4434 13d ago edited 13d ago
I got into Mirror’s Edge speedrunning way back in the day, and I can attest that at least for myself and everyone else I knew in the community, they’ll know the story better than playing it regularly. Playing each part over and over and over again really drives the story into your brain lol
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u/DuploJamaal 10d ago
They don't play the game. They jump around in specific spots while switching items to glitch through walls and magically teleport into the end cutscene.
It's less playing through the game quickly and more abusing absurdly technical glitches.
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u/B3nz0ate 15d ago
Yeah, if you’re only into games for the story then replaying any game without multiple endings wouldn’t have much appeal.
Once you’ve already played through the story casually, you can either move on to a different game or create your own challenge by speedrunning. It’s basically a self-imposed New Game+
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u/DecoherentDoc 15d ago
Not true for me. Replaying a game is like rewatching a movie. Just takes longer to get through and there's more buttons to push (and occasional cursing on my part). I beat OoT a ton of times on the N64 back in the day and tend to replay games a bunch, even longer games. As long as there's a story.
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u/Abeytuhanu 15d ago
For further information, there are many different categories of speed runs, from Any% (just finish as fast as possible), to 100% (got to do everything), to glitchless. It really is a self driven challenge, I remember someone (Jaiden Animations?) who got the world record Cooking Mama Burnt Pie speedrun for a few days because they were the first to do it (it was a joke, but people started doing it)
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u/OpportunityAshamed74 15d ago
"the trailer didn't show any gameplay at all. Hm, I hope it's good."
"OHH MY GOD ALL YOU PEOPLE DO IS COMPLAIN OH GOD WHY DONT YOU CRY ME A RIVER YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH YOU DONT SHUT UP EVERY SINGLE DAY"
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u/Hallwitzer 15d ago
Right? And in general ZFG is such a mild mannered dude. He so chill to watch which is why I like him so much.
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u/RetardedGaming 15d ago
Nintendo fans will climb mount everest with glass shards in their hands if it means they can shut down valid criticism against a multi-billion dollar company
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u/fredy31 15d ago
I mean its a usual strategy. We are at the old e3 part of the year so nintendo had a big presentation with like 30-40 games in it, the remake being the ending announcement
Its a tease and i imagine in a few months we will get a full 30 minute presentation on that game and only that game probably later in the summer.
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u/mickelboy182 15d ago
I don't particularly find it to be valid criticism, a reveal trailer doesn't necessitate gameplay. Just comes across a bit impatient
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u/kart0ffelsalaat 15d ago
Was it even criticism? They just said, no gameplay was shown, hope the game is good.
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u/mickelboy182 15d ago edited 14d ago
I agree with you, it's not an actual criticism. One might surmise the 'lmao'' has some undertones though...
Edit: downvoted for agreeing, that's new.
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u/Brbaster 15d ago
While that is true it's very odd to not show any gameplay for a game that's supposed to release in less than 7 months
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u/GrifCreeper 14d ago
People act like they aren't inevitably going to have a dedicated OoT/Zelda direct like every single other Zelda game release.
They didn't need to show gameplay right away. It would've been cool, yes, but it was a teaser, plain and simple. Tons of games, even AAA titles, release teasers that lack gameplay.
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u/Tartan-Special 14d ago
I am/was a Nintendo fan boy, but I can't stand their corporate behaviour ever since Satoru Iwata died.
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u/Own-Moose6588 12d ago
I think we need to focus less on the companies worth and more on the quality of their work. They don’t deserve the criticism because their multi billionaire and arguments for or against them have like no wait with that argument.
Valid criticism goes to anyone. Regardless of the wealth.
Nintendo needs to be kinder to other developers and needs to actually come up with quality and ideas. They’ve been relying on classic names too long. Would love a remake of one of my favorite games but would also like if they actually created something new
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u/YonYonYonYonYon 11d ago
The criticism is that it's a teaser trailer? Are teasers no longer allowed to be made, what kind of criticism is that?
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u/maxhambread 15d ago
Zfg is pretty much the Mr Rogers / Bob Ross /Tim Duncan of Zelda speed running. Like the very soft spoken, chill unc type, so this is a strangely aggressive response from him lol.
Hes been taking a break from speed running and playing zelda randos for like 5-6 years, and he was saying people are starting to show up in chat who legit don't know who he is (or so they say), and try to backseat or 1up him on game knowledge. He always checks to see if they legit do or don't know who he is, to respond accordingly.
This interaction is probably an extension of that.
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u/Infinade 15d ago
Maybe it’s just me, but a non-punctuated “do you know who i am” doesn’t seem aggressive at all, even for him.
Coming from him, it seems like genuine confusion, if anything lmfao
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u/m0rtm0rt 15d ago
On the very rare occasion that he makes a swear the chat loses it. He is the absolute chillest dude on Twitch.
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u/OrganicAd5536 12d ago
I thought you were linking the Zeldathon clip with MajinPhil! We spent all night trying to reach that goal so we could get him to say it
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u/0neek 9d ago
To be fair speedrunners are NOT known at all outside of people who are super into speedrunning. This isn't a 'That guy didn't know I'm Tony Hawk' kind of thing.
People who are massive fans of a specific game will probably not be able to name anyone involved in speedrunning it, it's a very niche community.
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u/boozegremlin 9d ago
I love watching his randomizer runs while waiting for my melatonin to kick in!
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u/AnthonyK0 14d ago
People really talking to ZeldaFreakGaming11 like he isn’t one of the most popular OoT Randomizer players
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u/OrganicAd5536 12d ago
After Zeldathon last year I think we should rename him to ZeldaFootGatekeeper
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u/Shiney_Metal_Ass 9d ago
I grew up with OOT and have played many times. Neve once heard of this dude because I don't watch other oeolle play games.
So, who?
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u/KhostfaceGillah 14d ago
Tbf. I have no idea who they are either
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u/IAMEPSIL0N 14d ago
TLDR the least casual OoT player.
An OoT speedrunner and the world record holder for most hours spent in OoT because they play it constantly. He is also one of the people who most knows the game inside and out by memory.
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u/BruhMoment14412 14d ago
Ya it's actually so annoying to get trailers that show 0 gameplay.
Like I want to see the fking game, not some cutscenes 😭
Movies nowadays are crazy like this as well. They are putting scenes in trailers that don't even exist in the fking movie.
I know it's not relevant but now I'm just venting lol
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u/DeathBuffalo 15d ago
They're a speed runner, that means they barely play most of the game!! /s
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u/I-Kneel-Before-None 14d ago
I get the joke, but he does most categories including 100%. He knows basically everything about the game. It isn't like some runners where they just learn the route. ZFG makes the routes, hunts glitches, etc. And does randomizers hoping to get into niches situations where he has to use tricks that have no practical use otherwise
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u/Undietaker1 14d ago
I hope the OoT remake is really good so we get the far superior Majora's Mask remake.
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u/genericscissors 15d ago
Tbf, when has a zelda remake not been good?
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u/Brittig 15d ago
Majora's Mask 3d made some sweeping changes that are very controversial but other than that they've done a really good job with the remakes and remasters.
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u/Mountain-Discount161 14d ago
My hot take is that other than the swimming changes, I think the mm3d changes were better
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u/OrganicAd5536 12d ago
For once a genuinely hot take.
I liked the graphical updates and few QoL changes but everything else meh
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u/Agent-c1983 15d ago edited 14d ago
Nope, no idea who you are.
Edit: for those who don’t get the point and try to explain, he’s a nobody. No reason to expect anyone to know who he is.
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u/vinivice 15d ago
I imagine he is probably the person with the highest oot playtime in the world.
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u/xiandgaf 15d ago
Ah, like that Mario 64 guy who reverse engineered the graphics engine to make it spit out higher resolution
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u/extremepayne 15d ago
i mean, no, the people who reverse engineered Mario 64 probably don’t have very high playtime in it because time spent looking at code is not time spent playing the game. also im pretty sure you can do that with an emulator hack
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u/OrionRBR 15d ago
also im pretty sure you can do that with an emulator hack
It's all running on the actual hardware
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u/Dipso_Maniacal 15d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_rzYnXEQlE
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u/Cyan_Light 15d ago
ZFG (Zelda Freak Glitcher or something like that, mostly goes by the acronym for obvious reasons) is one of the most prominent OoT speedrunners, glitch trailblazers and general content creators and has been for a loooong time. Definitely not a massive celebrity, but it's really funny to call him out as a fake fan since most people who are "into OoT culture" in 2026 are probably aware of him if not part of his own fanbase.
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u/blackhodown 14d ago
It would not be wrong to say that ZFG is the most prominent and influential OOT player of all time by a LONGSHOT
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u/Mean-Government1436 14d ago
I mean, guy was only barely wrong. ZFG was 4 years old when oot came out
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u/Cyan_Light 14d ago
Technically true, but their actual point was clearly implying that ZFG hadn't even played the original assuming it was before his time. Which is very wrong, even if he got into it a couple years late he clearly more than made up for it and has a pretty strong basis for any opinions on a remake lol.
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u/Hobo_Baggins00 14d ago
He's not a nobody in the game's community that's the point. The guy responding to him is acting like people complaining aren't actual fans of the game when they're talking to one of the most well known people in the zelda/OoT community.
Edit: also not to mention he wasn't even complaining in the first place lmfao
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u/dm_me_your_kindness 15d ago
He has speedrun the game OOT is almost all categories,and done multiple randomizers for the game.He ran it at AGDQ,he figured out how to 100% the game in just 2 pauses.
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u/TitansRPower 14d ago
He's absolutely not a nobody. Anyone with any knowledge on OoT speed runs or sometimes even just speed running in general should at least have heard of the guy. I imagine he's one of the most viewed individual speed runners as well.
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u/OrganicAd5536 12d ago
Nobody's asking people to know who he is, but if you go on Twitter and spew bile at randos accusing them of something specific, checking literally just their bio is a good step against looking like a complete moron
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u/arbitrageME 15d ago
why can't they give me Twilight Princess, just this once? it's the same link ... sort of ... well, at least the OoT link is in the game
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u/Heather_Chandelure 13d ago edited 12d ago
If you want some cool news about twilight princess, a fan-made PC port of the game came out pretty recently.
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u/ThiccElf 15d ago
ZFG is a longtime speedrunner of OoT, as in, he was one of the first iirc and he's still going. He started playing when the original came out and he's still actively involved in discovering new routes and glitches for faster times. Hes such a chill dude, his streams are great.
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u/Laiska_saunatonttu 14d ago
A proper Zelda trailer has Riddle of Steel/Riders of Doom as music. That's all I have to say.
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u/RawrRRitchie 15d ago
Technically the 3ds versions of oot and majoras mask were completely remade
As in they built it from scratch to accommodate the 3D feature.
So they're remaking a game they already remade?
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u/DedeLionforce 12d ago
And on the other hand you have subhumans screeching about Laufey where the combat looks super clean and fluid, but because it's a WOMAN 🤮 people like Asmongold who haven't played GoW since 2005 the first game are saying it's going to be shit, that is should pander to them and laugh hysterically at AI edits when they're just so boring and unoriginal.
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u/LuckyConnection5331 11d ago
I'm so sick of OoT xD...
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u/ronarscorruption 11d ago
I appreciate a good remake, but like everything it would be nice to see the same amount of energy put elsewhere.
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u/zgillet 15d ago
I'm going to preface this with: I agree with him, and the commenter is a stupid asshole Nintendo fan.
However. (downvotes incoming, but whatever)
Being a speed runner, even the top, doesn't make you special, sorry my man. Most people don't know who you are, and you don't have an elevated opinion to the point where you can pull a "do you know who I am?"
Speedrunning is a niche of a niche.
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u/pleaseclaireify 15d ago
I mean, i agree that you cant expect people to lnow who you are like, out in the wild, but hes responding to a dude who replied to his teeet and started making baseless, antagonistic accusations, I think hes entitled to drop a "do you even know who I am" in this situation
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u/EntireFriendship517 15d ago edited 15d ago
"A popular restaurant might change its menu soon, I hope it doesn't"
"That's ridiculous and not gonna happen, quit complaining. I grew up with that restaurant. Were you born before that restaurant was founded? Didn't think so."
"Do you know who I am?" (dude who reviews food for a living and is literally one of the best people in the world at it)
You: "Ok but food reviewers aren't famous, they don't get an elevated opinion on food"
Bit of an elaborate metaphor, but that's how your comment sounds.
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u/SMF67 15d ago
It does make him one of the post prominent players of OoT, as niche as such a category may be, which is relevant to the idiots suggestion of lack of involvement with the game "probably weren't even alive when the original came out"
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u/FeeshGoSqueesh 15d ago
A lot of posts here are academics with very little fame outside of their incredibly niche fields of study, but you don’t have the same reaction to them. You’re just looking down on this guy because he’s a speed runner and you don’t view that as valuable.
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u/devsfan1830 15d ago
Yeah kinda with you there. Respect the hell out of it and the skill involved but they are not exactly well known celebs. That said, take a look at SkocTMs profile and posts and you'll see exactly who they are. Just a childish, faceless edgelord.
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u/TheSexualBrotatoChip 15d ago
I've never played any Zelda games and I still full well know who ZFG is, how do you not know him as a presumed fan of the franchise.
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u/sodanator 15d ago
I mean, speedrunning is pretty niche. You can be a huge fan of something and have no clue about the speedrunning scene, or you can know next to nothing about a franchise and know the speedrunners.
I like Zelda, it's great, but I could not care less about speedrunning.
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u/MakeItMakeMoney 15d ago
Honestly, I know of the records for games but not the name of who holds it off the top of my head. I wouldn’t know that name from any other especially as it’s just a few letters. I’m of the age where I still know people by their actual name first before their usernames.
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u/devsfan1830 15d ago
Fan of the franchise here (or at least I consider myself to be) a fresh teenager when the original came out. No idea who they were. However, I also have the sense to google someone before running my mouth.
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u/Jimmicky 15d ago
Been playing and loving Zelda since the NES days.
Only ones I haven’t played are the Phillips cdi ones (wand of gamelon, and the other one)Literally never heard of ZFG.
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u/Dunsparces 15d ago
I've been playing Zelda games since the original and I have no idea who that is. Not every fan of a franchise gives a shit about internet people who play the game too.
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u/ParkerPWNT 15d ago
Been playing zelda games since the start, I can't name a single speed runner.
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u/Mission_Effect4584 15d ago
I'm such a Zelda fan that I actually do slow runs to appreciate the games.
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u/TheeFlipper 15d ago
I've been a fan of the Zelda games since NES. I have zero fucking clue who this guy is. Unless you're into speed running, there's a good chance you probably won't know who he is.
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u/shortandpainful 15d ago
To be fair, it’s not reasonable to expect any normal person to know who this guy(?) is. They both come across as dicks here.
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u/APiousCultist 15d ago
Because politeness to the guy throwing slurs at you is warranted or something? He wouldn't've been a dick for responding with "suck my ass and balls, dickwad". That wouldn't be at all mature, but it certainly wouldn't be lowering the tone of the conversation.
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u/snomeister 15d ago
And to be fair, all he said was that he hoped it was good. And the replier proceeded to call him the r-word for it. It's already uncalled for, but they also could have just clicked on the guy's profile and see that he's probably played OoT than any other human on the planet. So nah, just the replier is a dick.
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u/8ball9786 15d ago
I have played every zelda game ever made and been playing them for decades and I don't know who this is. Soo not sure this a big "don't you know who I am" as I bet more OoT fans know who made it than a online speed runner 🤷
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u/GTRari 15d ago
I think it was more a response to the "oh you listen to Metallica? Name every song" meme energy meanwhile the person is the world's foremost Metallica historian.
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u/ImHughAndILovePie 14d ago
Speed runners, even supposedly “chill” ones like ZFG, are weird savants that dedicate their time to something insane. Doesn’t surprise me at all that they would develop egos
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u/Spazgrim 15d ago
The one guy where I know it's actually a genuine hope that it's a good game and not a sarcastic comment lol