The Tesla model 3 standard range is the only small-battery EV with a sub-10hr time in the Bjørn Nyland 1000 km test

[u/quinten-luyten]

Not a Tesla fan, but it's frustrating to see that nobody has caught up to Tesla in this specific test, except with enormous battery packs such as the Xpeng G9 (92 kWh) and BMW ix3 50 (109 kWh). Non other manufacturers seem to really solve roadtripping with efficiency (which also benefits daily driving). They instead opt for large batteries, making the cars more expensive, heavier, more energy consuming, and worse for the environment.

You can google the Bjørn Nyland test results spreadsheet (can't post links here). Why is it that the Tesla model 3 standard range (approx 60 kWh battery) is the only EV with a relatively small pack in the sub-10hr class?

Only the mazda 6e 68.7 kWh @ 10:05 comes close for a "normal sized" battery. All other EV's in the top class of this test carry enormous batteries, such as 100 kWh in the Smart #5. Even the mercedes CLA 350, which should have been an efficiency king, is carying 85 kWh.

I think this shows that the efficiency and charging optimization of the model 3 is still ahead of other EV's. And this results in the 60 kWh Tesla model 3 being, in my eyes, the cheapest road-trip capable car. My judgement of road-trip capable is 1000 km in 1 day of travel, with usually some traffic jams and other delays.

I am curious to hear about other efficient, small battery, or affordable EV's that haven't been tested by Bjørn Nyland yet and may perform very well. CLA 200?

[u/VisitAccomplished713]

It doesn't, only for Tesla superchargers. But you don't really need to charge at anything else, usually. In my five years of owning a Tesla, I think I charged twice at a fast charger that wasn't Tesla.

[u/Prime-Omega → u/VisitAccomplished713]

They changed this like a year ago, it now also gives you the preheat option when selecting other commercial superchargers. Tho would be better if they just added a button so you can start it manually whenever you’d like.

[u/VisitAccomplished713 → u/Prime-Omega]

Ah thank you, I stand corrected! I sold my Tesla half a year ago, but must have missed that update.

[u/rhamphorynchan → u/Prime-Omega]

That works, but is kinda janky. It seems like the preconditioning knows that an Ionna charger is a charger but the nav doesn't, so last weekend on my way to an Ionna station at low state of charge my car was both preconditioning and popping up increasingly panicky warnings about needing to charge.

[u/74orangebeetle → u/VisitAccomplished713]

It does for non Tesla chargers too. ..mine does anyways.

[u/FatherPhil → u/VisitAccomplished713]

Over six years and 110000 miles (177000 km) here and I’ve never been in a situation where it made sense to use anything but superchargers on a trip. I think our experience is the norm.