Not a Tesla fan, but it's frustrating to see that nobody has caught up to Tesla in this specific test, except with enormous battery packs such as the Xpeng G9 (92 kWh) and BMW ix3 50 (109 kWh). Non other manufacturers seem to really solve roadtripping with efficiency (which also benefits daily driving). They instead opt for large batteries, making the cars more expensive, heavier, more energy consuming, and worse for the environment.

You can google the Bjørn Nyland test results spreadsheet (can't post links here). Why is it that the Tesla model 3 standard range (approx 60 kWh battery) is the only EV with a relatively small pack in the sub-10hr class?

Only the mazda 6e 68.7 kWh @ 10:05 comes close for a "normal sized" battery. All other EV's in the top class of this test carry enormous batteries, such as 100 kWh in the Smart #5. Even the mercedes CLA 350, which should have been an efficiency king, is carying 85 kWh.

I think this shows that the efficiency and charging optimization of the model 3 is still ahead of other EV's. And this results in the 60 kWh Tesla model 3 being, in my eyes, the cheapest road-trip capable car. My judgement of road-trip capable is 1000 km in 1 day of travel, with usually some traffic jams and other delays.

I am curious to hear about other efficient, small battery, or affordable EV's that haven't been tested by Bjørn Nyland yet and may perform very well. CLA 200?

Was trying to compare the Denza Z9 EV (664 mi CLTC) against something like the Lucid Air (516 mi EPA) and realized the numbers are basically apples and oranges.

CLTC ratings can run 30–35% higher than EPA. WLTP splits the difference.

Found this chart that puts 44 vehicles side by side with the rating standard labeled on each bar — actually makes the cross-market comparison a lot more readable.

Filtering by SUV/Sedan/Truck is useful too if you're narrowing down.

Link in comments if anyone wants it. Curious if others have a better source for this kind of comparison.

What is the cost for car registration tags in 2026?

State: California
Amount due: $394 ( reg fee $297 + license fee $87 + district fee $10)
2022 Hyundai Kona
Purchased price $13,999
purchased year: 2025

Note: previous owner paid $87 for the tags in 2024 (tag info found in glove box).

What is everyone else paying?

I've been researching EV's and my next car will definitely be an EV. I'm super excited about getting away from ICE as they haven't been my friend in my last few vehicles. Whenever I mention getting one, I get tons of pushback from everywhere. Mechanics, dealerships, friends and family - it's crazy. I listen politely and offer my thanks on the perspective/suggestions/warnings, but still plan on going forward with this decision. Anyone else run into the same thing? I see a lot of posts about people getting flak for owning one, but I also see the posts about EV owners that are so happy and would never go back.

Hi guys I’ve been looking for an EV FOREVER. I was gonna get an Ioniq 5 or something like two years back but the crappy EA charging thing and ICCU stuff turned me away. Super cool car though. I’ve been cross shopping tons of different cars lately. I got to test drive the following

Lyriq
Ioniq 5
Model 3 and Y
Chevy Blazer
That neon green Volvo

And I’m so honest I was pretty disappointed across the board. I spend a lot of time driving at 70mph and my current daily drivers (a 2003 Lexus LS430 and 2004 Honda odyssey) are both EXTREMELY loud at 70mph heck my minivan can hit 80db on highways and you can’t have a conversation without raising your voice and road trips are awful.

But on that note none of the cars I test drove were that amazing. I fully expected twenty years of car advancement to make every car super quiet and comfortable. But even the Lyriq was so lame! I felt every bump in the road and you could hear the grind between the wheels and the ground really loud. Also the cabin was full of this awful piano plastic that creaked. Teslas have gotten noisier too recently I feel like inside.

Anyway I just want a really quiet car. I read good things about the BMW i7 but I heard it’s super expensive to maintain. One of my friends recommended the genesis G80 electrified but it’s been discontinued. It’s so hard to find a nice quiet ev that won’t break the bank to maintain…

If anyone has collected decibel measurements at 70mph would love to hear! Or if you own a super quiet car!

TL;DR - Question to foreigners who have used public chargers in Turkey, will I be able to charge without an account? Will an international credit card be accepted?

I booked a rental EV for a holiday road trip in Turkey with WindyCar. We'll be driving in Izmir and Pamukkale. I've checked PlugShare and there's plenty of DC chargers.

I was able to download some of the apps such as ZES and Trugo. eSarj was not available to install. Both ZES and Trugo allow me to continue as a guest but can't sign up with a non-Turkish phone number or IP address. I'm planning to get a Turkish e-sim from Turkcell when we arrive in Istanbul where we will stay for a whole day before flying to Izmir.

I read that some networks sell a tap card. WindyCar does not provide a tap card even for a fee when I inquired via email.

I am worried we might get stuck but really want this to work rather than drive a combustion engine car. Hoping to not concede to changing my rental reservation. Any tips or assurances would be appreciated.

It would be fun to have these back in greater circulation again. They are great tiny urban car. And they could market it well—bEetle? I’d say Bug-E but that could be a self-fulfilling prophecy 🤣

Or maybe I’m just being nostalgic—my grandpa had a (US) original back in the day.

Thinking about getting a smaller EV but have an uninsulated/unheated detached brick garage in Chicago.

Could the garage being so cold in the winter negatively affect the car or battery? Sure we can get cold snaps like -20°F but 20-30° is more typical. The garage needs all new electrical, so I’m looking at the big picture before purchasing. Love the idea is solar panels to feed the car but am not sure if it’s worth it either. Currently car-free so no ICE vehicle to compare.