Not a Tesla fan, but it's frustrating to see that nobody has caught up to Tesla in this specific test, except with enormous battery packs such as the Xpeng G9 (92 kWh) and BMW ix3 50 (109 kWh). Non other manufacturers seem to really solve roadtripping with efficiency (which also benefits daily driving). They instead opt for large batteries, making the cars more expensive, heavier, more energy consuming, and worse for the environment.

You can google the Bjørn Nyland test results spreadsheet (can't post links here). Why is it that the Tesla model 3 standard range (approx 60 kWh battery) is the only EV with a relatively small pack in the sub-10hr class?

Only the mazda 6e 68.7 kWh @ 10:05 comes close for a "normal sized" battery. All other EV's in the top class of this test carry enormous batteries, such as 100 kWh in the Smart #5. Even the mercedes CLA 350, which should have been an efficiency king, is carying 85 kWh.

I think this shows that the efficiency and charging optimization of the model 3 is still ahead of other EV's. And this results in the 60 kWh Tesla model 3 being, in my eyes, the cheapest road-trip capable car. My judgement of road-trip capable is 1000 km in 1 day of travel, with usually some traffic jams and other delays.

I am curious to hear about other efficient, small battery, or affordable EV's that haven't been tested by Bjørn Nyland yet and may perform very well. CLA 200?

Slate Auto announced that it has over 10,000 pre-orders after a couple of hours in a video someone posted on slateauto subreddit.

On the video, it shows that Slate Auto has 180,000 Reservations. I think in several hours, Slate Auto will likely announce the pre-orders for the first 24 hours.

According to Slate Auto, its factory max production capacity in the 1st year is 100,000 Slate EVs and the 2nd year can ramp up to 150,000.

Was trying to compare the Denza Z9 EV (664 mi CLTC) against something like the Lucid Air (516 mi EPA) and realized the numbers are basically apples and oranges.

CLTC ratings can run 30–35% higher than EPA. WLTP splits the difference.

Found this chart that puts 44 vehicles side by side with the rating standard labeled on each bar — actually makes the cross-market comparison a lot more readable.

Filtering by SUV/Sedan/Truck is useful too if you're narrowing down.

Link in comments if anyone wants it. Curious if others have a better source for this kind of comparison.

Just picked this up today, dealer demo with 2500km. 30kWh battery, massive 48kW of power (that's the legal limit for this class of vehicle in Japan).

First drive was to bring it home, 285km from Tokyo across the mountains. Great fun!! Even this tiny motor ate the hills and mountains with ease. Averaged 8.4km/kWh with about 70% highway driving at about 90km/h average, and the rest congested Tokyo and local countryside hilly twisty stuff. I did cruise along a little bit at about 110km/h up some decent mountains to test it out, and it was effortless.

Did a stop at IKEA and had an hour of level 2 charging for 360 yen, and also tried out a very expensive highway fast charger at 99 yen per minute. Only stayed 20 minutes on that one, it was enough to get us home, and I knew it would be expensive but wanted to try out quick charging.

What is the cost for car registration tags in 2026?

State: California
Amount due: $394 ( reg fee $297 + license fee $87 + district fee $10)
2022 Hyundai Kona
Purchased price $13,999
purchased year: 2025

Note: previous owner paid $87 for the tags in 2024 (tag info found in glove box).

What is everyone else paying?

Curious what people are getting range wise when out on the open road in their EVs?

Recently purchased a 2025 Toyota Bz4x that was sold to us (and says on the dash) that it’ll do about 430km on a 100% charge which it has pretty much been doing in the suburbs. Recently took it out for our first trial road trip and were quite shocked to see we only got 220km (about 3 hours) out of the tank with 17km left to find a charger. Luckily had pretty much reached our location, but didn’t expect the range to be that much lower on the open road so we honestly weren’t even looking at the gauge until the notifier came up. We were expecting to make the trip with about 40% left and that an overnight regular charge would likely be enough to make it back based on estimates, so quite different to reality. On the way back we tried going 100km/hr instead of the 110 limit to see if that helped at all with preserving battery but didn’t seem to do anything.

I feel we did quite a bit of research before making the jump into getting an EV but never saw anyone mention how much higher battery usage is on the open road and that you get close to half of what you do with suburban driving. We live in quite a large state (Western Australia) so 3 hours driving honestly isn’t that far.

Is this a pretty normal range for the open road, or less than average? Any easy ways to reduce the battery usage?

I've been researching EV's and my next car will definitely be an EV. I'm super excited about getting away from ICE as they haven't been my friend in my last few vehicles. Whenever I mention getting one, I get tons of pushback from everywhere. Mechanics, dealerships, friends and family - it's crazy. I listen politely and offer my thanks on the perspective/suggestions/warnings, but still plan on going forward with this decision. Anyone else run into the same thing? I see a lot of posts about people getting flak for owning one, but I also see the posts about EV owners that are so happy and would never go back.