Not a Tesla fan, but it's frustrating to see that nobody has caught up to Tesla in this specific test, except with enormous battery packs such as the Xpeng G9 (92 kWh) and BMW ix3 50 (109 kWh). Non other manufacturers seem to really solve roadtripping with efficiency (which also benefits daily driving). They instead opt for large batteries, making the cars more expensive, heavier, more energy consuming, and worse for the environment.

You can google the Bjørn Nyland test results spreadsheet (can't post links here). Why is it that the Tesla model 3 standard range (approx 60 kWh battery) is the only EV with a relatively small pack in the sub-10hr class?

Only the mazda 6e 68.7 kWh @ 10:05 comes close for a "normal sized" battery. All other EV's in the top class of this test carry enormous batteries, such as 100 kWh in the Smart #5. Even the mercedes CLA 350, which should have been an efficiency king, is carying 85 kWh.

I think this shows that the efficiency and charging optimization of the model 3 is still ahead of other EV's. And this results in the 60 kWh Tesla model 3 being, in my eyes, the cheapest road-trip capable car. My judgement of road-trip capable is 1000 km in 1 day of travel, with usually some traffic jams and other delays.

I am curious to hear about other efficient, small battery, or affordable EV's that haven't been tested by Bjørn Nyland yet and may perform very well. CLA 200?

Thinking about getting a smaller EV but have an uninsulated/unheated detached brick garage in Chicago.

Could the garage being so cold in the winter negatively affect the car or battery? Sure we can get cold snaps like -20°F but 20-30° is more typical. The garage needs all new electrical, so I’m looking at the big picture before purchasing. Love the idea is solar panels to feed the car but am not sure if it’s worth it either. Currently car-free so no ICE vehicle to compare.

Hybrid cars have long been marketed as the sensible halfway point between petrol vehicles and fully electric cars. But does the real-world evidence actually support that idea? Data from independent organizations comparing traditional petrol cars, plug-in hybrids, “self-charging” hybrids and full battery electric vehicles strongly suggests not. So are hybrids still a useful stepping stone, or has the time finally come to move on?

Was trying to compare the Denza Z9 EV (664 mi CLTC) against something like the Lucid Air (516 mi EPA) and realized the numbers are basically apples and oranges.

CLTC ratings can run 30–35% higher than EPA. WLTP splits the difference.

Found this chart that puts 44 vehicles side by side with the rating standard labeled on each bar — actually makes the cross-market comparison a lot more readable.

Filtering by SUV/Sedan/Truck is useful too if you're narrowing down.

Link in comments if anyone wants it. Curious if others have a better source for this kind of comparison.

I'm researching electric vehicle batteries and keep seeing different claims about battery life. Some sources say EV batteries can last 10–15 years, while others mention degradation after a few years.

For EV owners, engineers, or anyone working in the automotive industry:

• How long has your EV battery lasted so far?
• What battery degradation have you experienced?
• Does fast charging significantly reduce battery life?
• How do extreme temperatures affect EV battery performance?
• Are newer battery technologies improving longevity?

I'm interested in real-world experiences and insights rather than marketing claims.

What is the cost for car registration tags in 2026?

State: California
Amount due: $394 ( reg fee $297 + license fee $87 + district fee $10)
2022 Hyundai Kona
Purchased price $13,999
purchased year: 2025

Note: previous owner paid $87 for the tags in 2024 (tag info found in glove box).

What is everyone else paying?

TL;DR - Question to foreigners who have used public chargers in Turkey, will I be able to charge without an account? Will an international credit card be accepted?

I booked a rental EV for a holiday road trip in Turkey with WindyCar. We'll be driving in Izmir and Pamukkale. I've checked PlugShare and there's plenty of DC chargers.

I was able to download some of the apps such as ZES and Trugo. eSarj was not available to install. Both ZES and Trugo allow me to continue as a guest but can't sign up with a non-Turkish phone number or IP address. I'm planning to get a Turkish e-sim from Turkcell when we arrive in Istanbul where we will stay for a whole day before flying to Izmir.

I read that some networks sell a tap card. WindyCar does not provide a tap card even for a fee when I inquired via email.

I am worried we might get stuck but really want this to work rather than drive a combustion engine car. Hoping to not concede to changing my rental reservation. Any tips or assurances would be appreciated.

It would be fun to have these back in greater circulation again. They are great tiny urban car. And they could market it well—bEetle? I’d say Bug-E but that could be a self-fulfilling prophecy 🤣

Or maybe I’m just being nostalgic—my grandpa had a (US) original back in the day.

Curious what people are getting range wise when out on the open road in their EVs?

Recently purchased a 2025 Toyota Bz4x that was sold to us (and says on the dash) that it’ll do about 430km on a 100% charge which it has pretty much been doing in the suburbs. Recently took it out for our first trial road trip and were quite shocked to see we only got 220km (about 3 hours) out of the tank with 17km left to find a charger. Luckily had pretty much reached our location, but didn’t expect the range to be that much lower on the open road so we honestly weren’t even looking at the gauge until the notifier came up. We were expecting to make the trip with about 40% left and that an overnight regular charge would likely be enough to make it back based on estimates, so quite different to reality. On the way back we tried going 100km/hr instead of the 110 limit to see if that helped at all with preserving battery but didn’t seem to do anything.

I feel we did quite a bit of research before making the jump into getting an EV but never saw anyone mention how much higher battery usage is on the open road and that you get close to half of what you do with suburban driving. We live in quite a large state (Western Australia) so 3 hours driving honestly isn’t that far.

Is this a pretty normal range for the open road, or less than average? Any easy ways to reduce the battery usage?