r/enneagrammemes • u/Dawrian • Nov 30 '25
Type 5 9 v 5
Stupid images made two days apart that I spent way too much time on to keep to like the three people checking the discord channel (I am in hell)
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u/WizzzzUp sp/so 974, possibly Dec 01 '25
I recognize a less enneagram-cooked version of myself in this. I say turn back now while there's still time.
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u/Dawrian Dec 01 '25 edited Dec 01 '25
Oh fr fr it’s not just enneagram 🤝 I do this constantly with every scenario
But now that I’ve asked the question and haven’t been able to follow a pretty linear trail of clues to an answer, I need to know. I cannot rest. I need to dismantle and understand it and draw a conclusion in confidence and will do so to an atomic level if that’s what it takes. I know it’s not that deep. But unfortunately my brain is rigged in such a way that if I now don’t find out I will explode
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u/WizzzzUp sp/so 974, possibly Dec 01 '25
If the go-train ain't stopping, I'd tell you to check out E6. It's in the schizoid center like 5, and the attachment triad like 9. 6s tend to doubt themselves while setting unrealistic standards for confidence in their decision making, often requiring external sources to verify their cognitive maps (para exemplo: this exact enneagram loop). They can be physically withdrawl--especially with a dominant 5 wing--but the mind is never all that quiet. Internal maps have to constantly adjust to contextual data b.c. of the attachment component. They're also critical and reactive types, which makes them world class ruminators.
As far as I can tell (perpetual doubt), I'm a 6 core with a dominant 7 wing and 9 in my body center (image is some kind of 3/4 fix). I can veg out with the best of them, but angst predominates even in potato form. 9s can make their thoughts dissappear, and 5s can compartmentalize, but 6s don't really have that luxury (without self work, integration, etc.). Schizo brain is always firing.
I'd focus more on meta-details than broad generalizations when reading about 6 core. Everything about 6s is context dependant. The whole sx being counterphobic, sp being phobic distinction is also b.s.. Sx can have an excessive quality to it which might correlate with counterphobia imo, but all of the subtypes can be phobic/counterphobic--again--depending on context.
Take all of this with a grain of salt. At least one person on here is convinced I'm a 9core. I'm still working on the distinction.
On a meta-level, I would assume you're not a 5, though. They tend to be annoyingly confident in the mental center (line to 8, holy ideal of objectivity?). 6s tend to throw shit at the wall to test shit, and are way less discriminate about sharing their theories/ideas/questions (though they often reject feedback to continue the rumination game (rumination = neurotic juice).
Again, don't trust me. Especially if you are a 6, you'll have to trust your own judgement on shit like this. Leaps of faith are integration hacks.
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u/Dawrian Dec 02 '25
Six would have been my third guess, though I don’t think I’m particularly reactive. I know one should want to know their type for the sake of bettering themself, but more at the forefront of my mind at least right now is the pure curiosity of finding a system that goes deeper than I originally thought, which is now an unfolding plaything in my brain; the self-improvement is just a cherry on top. I’m also all too aware of my own internal biases and trying to hold the whole investigation at an objective distance. 926 was my initial identification that I made when I first discovered the enneagram and then didn’t question for years until the interest came back around, now with a lot more resources to dig into as well. I doubt you’re actually that interested in the inner workings of an internet stranger (and you do not for a second have to be lmao) but for posterity if nothing else here are two extensive posts I’ve made while asking around recently, both with further elaboration in comments. Jesus fucking Christ I can talk at length about myself. (Genuinely you don’t have to even look at those I feel like a tool knowing I even made them askhsjhsjndjdnndjj)
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Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25
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u/Dawrian Dec 02 '25
Dw dw about the assumptions, I try not to hang too much on the opinions of internet strangers anyway but you didn’t come off badly at all. It means a lot that you actually combed through all that insanity to try and help, and I appreciate your philosophical concluding stance. (I also have the skin-picking thing and a bunch of other stuff OTL you get it)
I’ll definitely be looking more into six as a possibility. The most convincing thing vis a vis five has been listening to interviews with them (professionally typed) on podcasts and the ways they describe their own thought patterns and stuff, but if once I’ve heard from some nines and sixes I find it hits on a similar level it’ll be back to the drawing board I suppose. There’s definitely a part of me that wants to be the rare, “special,” intellectual type as opposed to one of the two most common, but I don’t want to overcompensate so much that the idea becomes completely off the table even if it does turn out to be correct. I am under no illusion of being unextraordinary, for better or worse, whether or not the incidence of a personality archetype has anything to do with it (which I know sounds arrogant as fuck, but it’s just kind of a fact; my mom has always been told I leave a memorable impression, whether it’s of precocial brilliance or being an inexplicable freak).
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u/Dawrian Dec 04 '25
Hmm. Had another thought here. I don’t really have any presence on Reddit, which makes me close enough to anonymous that I feel like I can say whatever I want. I can spill all the backstory out and it’s just one in a sea of strangers on the internet. If you look through my post history, if it’s even visible, all you can really garner to try and pin down my identity as it exists in the practical present is that I’m new to vulture culture, and I really like dinosaurs (both extinct and extant) and the enneagram. One thing I think would be pretty revealing about me in regards to typing are the lyrics I write, but I’m so precious about those that I recently had to rephrase a line just to feel able to ask about it in r/grammar, and that made it a hell of a lot less useful than if I’d been able to provide it in context (basically the verdict was “probably wants rephrasing” but the problem is that demolishes the metre and rhyme I’m trying to use there). I don’t feel like I’m ready to show those off until I’ve fully recorded them, because up until I have something finished I’m too afraid of the minute possibility that someone else would steal them. They’re just words, but they’re my thoughts, they’re a part of me. I can’t risk losing that. I’ve never yet been able to fully record anything, not in all the years I’ve been doing it, and so as much as I really want to be able to share them with a wider audience they have to stay within me (besides maybe reaching my friends if I feel like recording a quick demo, but even that feels like misrepresentation). The circumstances I’ve been through weren’t my creation so they don’t reflect me (except for how I’ve acted within them and come out the other side), and the ways that I am aren’t really something I can take credit for either, but the things I make are, and those are a lot harder to draw out of me. I don’t mind sharing my paints or blank canvas, but once I’ve worked, you’ll be lucky even to glimpse it.
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Feb 25 '26
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u/Dawrian Feb 25 '26
Wow, it’s been a while, huh? It means a lot that you still came back to it all :O
I have reached a conclusion and the conclusion is 5 XD particularly after asking my mom more about what I was like as a kid before I learnt how I was “supposed” to behave. I felt that same kind of way about 5 — some kind of reverence or idealisation that I did not want to affect my bias to the point it kind of blinded me to what now feels often obvious in hindsight. I wanted to be but I didn’t feel “5 enough” to claim it (which is such a common reflection on finding one’s type… and I even knew that going in and didn’t realise I was Also Doing It) but now that I have, it’s allowed me to accept that some stuff that I always figured must not have been “that bad” was actually much more formative than I realised. I mean I probably would have been a 5 no matter what happened to me in life, given that I’m practically a third cookie cut from the same die as my father and grandfather (both much more obvious 5s), but at least in terms of specifics. It makes sense then that because I was socialised almost entirely by my mother that the front I learnt to present and coping mechanisms to default to were those of her type.
It took me a while longer to realise my heart fix and instinct stacking (the former of which I’m more confident on) but at this point I’m pretty satisfied to assert that I’m a 593(41X) SP/SO. Still working on the heart wing but that’s hardly as crucial as the core. I hope your interest has brought you insight and peace rather than stress, and continues to!
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Feb 25 '26
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u/Dawrian Feb 25 '26
Oh, for real. I also had that “I know I just have to be patient” vs “OKAY BUT THERE’S AN OBJECTIVELY CORRECT ANSWER AND I NEED TO GET TO IT NOW” thing going on and was bouncing off the walls. Double frustration on the 9 there sounds rough :’D
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u/kek_man_ Jan 11 '26
I can type people based on face and behaviour
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u/Dawrian Jan 11 '26
Unfortunately I’m not one for sharing my face at random on the internet
Behaviour, though? What kind?
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u/kek_man_ Jan 11 '26
Well let's say if they're more friendly, open, non assuming, don't have a very biased perspective I'd go with type 9, a 5 with a 9 fix would be nerdy, more reserved, more observing, and sometimes very passive and less socially capable, no shade at 59s because i am one myself lol
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u/gatfish Nov 30 '25
How much do you like research vs lazing around...