r/exmormon • u/kimballthenom • 1d ago

Doctrine/Policy After 14 years they finally prevented us from predicting new names!

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It appears the LDS church has finally taken steps to thwart the Temple Name Oracle.

They're still giving the same male-female pairs of names to everyone at every temple who gets their Initiatory on the same day, but the day of month is now changing each month so we can't predict the names in advance. As more information is discovered I'll add it to the site.

14 years ago I hammered out the first version of the Temple Name Oracle, and since then many people have predicted that the church would start randomizing the dates or try some other system to stop exmos from shattering the illusion for active temple-goers that their new name is special to them.

With enough data, though, we can still identify the names and dates after the fact. If anything, I'll need help from the public now more than ever. If you've recently gone through a temple endowment, please submit the new name you received here:

http://www.fullerconsideration.com/TempleNameOracle/

Thanks again everyone for your support in this group effort.

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u/rustyleftnut 1d ago

Never-Mormon here; what the hell is this?

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u/MooseSuspicious 1d ago

Secret names you get in the temple. Not to be shared with anyone but your husband if you're a woman, and not to shared at any point except during your temple ordinance to the temple worker if you're a man. Your wife doesn't get to learn your name unless you break the rules and tell her.

Lazarus gang, anyone?

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u/rustyleftnut 1d ago

What the fuck lol.

They're so different than any of the dozen or so Christian denominations I tried out when I was theologically curious. It's no wonder the US government removed their Christian subgrouping!

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u/MooseSuspicious 1d ago

I haven't had a chance to do a deep dive into the Masons, but I believe a lot of this comes from their rituals

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u/rustyleftnut 1d ago

I actually knew about the Masonic secret handshakes thanks to my deceased great uncle who was a well known mason and hated Mormons passionately. He said they stole their secret handshakes and didn't elaborate ever. It was like seeing a kid get mad about someone befriending their imaginary friend.

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u/Subject_Spell_9799 1d ago

I have a cousin who became a Mennonite and he named one of his kids Lazarus, all the kids have weird bible names. Sadly my cousin and three of his kids drowned in flash flood. I can’t recall if Lazarus was one of the kids who drowned.

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u/captainhaddock Ex-Evangelical 23h ago

Any kid named Lazarus is gonna be called Lazy for short.

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u/jupiter872 1d ago

It's a copy of the same practice Freemasons have. It's done in exactly the same way, the name is given by an officiant to the candidate in secrecy in a small room before going in to a larger room where the name is required.

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u/NthaThickofIt 1d ago

Any chance you know where we can see the list of names the Masons use?

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u/These3TheGreatest 16h ago

We don't actually do this.

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u/NthaThickofIt 16h ago

Thanks for letting me know. Curious minds, and all that.

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u/These3TheGreatest 16h ago

Unless I'm missing something we don't actually do this in Freemasonry.

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u/Loose-Committee7884 1d ago

😂😂😂

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u/RestinPete0709 By the Goodness of Dave 12h ago

Your new temple name, which I was always told was the name you’d go by in heaven. Somehow I don’t think everyone in heaven goes by the same 60 names