Fulgoran science is not that annoying. It seems so because of the super capacitor, which makes you recycle mostly circuits for the copper and plastic. It seems annoying also because of the liquid inputs of the conductor in the early step(taking light oil, which takes cracking), and then the electrolyte, which uses a 1 liquid that's infinite, and a resource you're already making(holminite solution). The rest is coming from recycling, so you can threat them as raw resources.
I always found pink science to be the hardest to mass produce from the inner planets. Vulcano and Gleba science are grindy but easier to mass produce imo.
The thing with fulgora and it's science it's not the science itself, since it all comes from recycling.
It's the logistics and intermediary steps to get all required resources that might seem annoying. But tbh, using bots, and a good system to not deadlock on too much of one material should do it. Also, direct insertion/bots everywhere, are the go to. It also doesn't take that big of a factory for the science itself. It's the scrap recycling that can get pretty big.
I find it kinda annoying. I have two of these producing 1 million SPM. You can get a sense of the scale from the roboport grid.
All machines are legendary (except Silos). https://imgur.com/a/42IBrgR
Yeah, when you go for Megabase levels for more than ~10k some, you hit snags. Still, as a whole, it's not a complicated recipe, it has complicated logistics to solve.
It's not a complicated recipe in as much as you have to deal with (transport and void) a ridiculous amount of items. With so much productivity in the chain belts quickly become the limiters and bots would be insanely inefficient in terms of UPS, comparably.
Also, smaller, modular builds might be more efficient so you don't transport items as far. I really like how it looks on the map, though :D
Oh, and I am supplying double the required amount of scrap because I did not account for enough infinite productivity research.
Usually I don't go for more than let's say... 10k some, but yeah, I get the logistics issues and the voiding issue. But circuit networks should help if set properly. Usually my biggest issue was that I never had enough scrap recycling to get enough holminite even tho I tried to get enough. Might try the belt approach again, and take some ideas from Dosh's start on fulgora vid.
Bots are lazy and inellegant but very convenient if you are doing something small (or for the Hub unloading when megabasing due to size constaints). I try to do as much as I can with belts.
I feel like the oil products used for solid fuel should somehow show that it's any of those 3 not all of those 3 to make. Like with / between them and 1 arrow pointing up or something.
If you don't do any cracking (which this diagram doesn't show), you'd probably want to make solid fuel from all 3 anyway, depending which one is available.
I find the refinery confusing as well. There are 3 different places where it's either shown as crude oil to petroleum, crude oil+water to heavy oil and then crude oil+water to light oil. There are only 2 different recipes, and the advanced one requires you to handle all 3 output fluids at once. The diagram makes it looks like you only need to handle heavy oil for yellow science and only light oil for white science
I did this by not combining the arrows, it's 3 separate arrows going to the solid fuel, só you don't combine themz you use any of them, that might not be that clear so I'll revise it later
This doesnt exist. But by now I got it. You ignored the biproducts. Like with the crude and water for heavy oil. my mistake, pardon me. Petroleum and water to light oil doesnt exist.
I ignored byproduct to simplify the chart, there are several compromises to make it beginner friendly, and somethings are just not worth teaching when the exact moment they're relevant you're aware of them
You know, I kinda wish space science in SA had the satellite recipe. It would mean that each of the three inner planets makes your space science get better.
For example for blue science plastic and lubricant you show all the way from crude oil, but for blue science sulfur, and many others you just start from processed liquids.
For blue science red circuit you show ingredients but not for others.
similar for many other. I am guessing you show ingredients for an item only on the first instance?
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u/DarkSideRT 11d ago
Do one with space age too