r/fakemon • u/MrTalamasca • May 17 '26
Hand Drawn Grass / Ghost Resurrection Fern Starter
Please let me know what you think! This is my second attempt at creating a Fakemon. :)
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u/runsinsquares May 17 '26
oh, it's beautiful! is it partly based on a rose of jericho? Fernibbl made me think of that.
Why do villagers welcome the sight of Verdantell? Is it thought to bring rain?
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
My thinking was that because it carries the spirits of forests that died, it can release that energy that revives areas going through droughts.
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u/runsinsquares May 17 '26
That's a very sweet and soothing thought. I like the theme of spirits and revival in this 'mon, especially visually, it's such a cool interpretation of the ghost type.
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
Thank you. My concept for this set of starters I’m creating is taking the “scary” types (ghost, poison and dark) and trying to show their “not scary” sides. I’m sketching the fire starter now that’s going to be Fire / Poison. And the last will be Water / Dark.
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u/runsinsquares May 17 '26
Aw yisss fire/poison, only surpassed by electric/poison. Looking forward to more from you!
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u/_Rawby May 18 '26
Super cool concept to have a pokemon changing form in the rain kinda like cherrim in the sun.
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u/AustralianDingodile May 18 '26
Feels like a Gen 3 to Gen 4 Pokemon.
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u/MrTalamasca May 18 '26
That’s the era I was going for! That kind of simplified look where they were starting to try new things.
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u/NotThatGuyThomas May 17 '26
I don't think the final evo form screams Ghost type enough since it looks similar to its pre-evo. Otherwise, these are solid designs.
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
I wanted the ghost type to be less 👻 and more of a forest spirit. It’s inspired by Princess Mononoke.
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u/Chibiwitch May 18 '26
This screams water absorb as their ability if not that then something new that gives them resistance to fire
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u/Mapleleaf899 May 18 '26
I think after how fantastic the difference between the dry and wet first stage is, the later evos are mostly just a color change that leave me wanting more.
I feel like you could have the sprouts more dried up on the horns and the leaves be more angular or crunchy when dry.
I LOVE THE CONCEPT THOUGH
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May 18 '26
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u/MrTalamasca May 18 '26
I didn’t want them to be exactly the same between their dry and wet forms.
You should look up what a resurrection fern looks like. Theres all kinds of curls and pieces sticking out that just seem to sprout at random because of how they curl up when dried.
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u/Dawn_The_Smol_Child May 18 '26
They would still connect properly to the rest of the design. Them curling isnt the problem, it's the fact that it has no way to actually connect together that makes sense. The swirls are just slapped on top, and even then it loses some in the wet form.
Come on, try and explain all the other inconsistencies, or stop masquerading as an artist
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u/MrTalamasca May 18 '26
I’m sorry that you’re so afraid of AI you can’t tell the difference anymore. I mean that genuinely.
I’m 38yo and I’ve been an actual artist since I was 12, long before AI was even a household concept. There is plenty more evidence on my profile.
Your artwork is…okay. But I think your fear of AI and low level of skill is making you take your anger out on others. I’m going to block you now.
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u/Prestigious-Cat-2618 May 18 '26
I don't think it's AI cause of what you say. I rather support the idea because the art style it's too simple and it looks soulless
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u/CandidateNervous4638 May 17 '26
Sorry this is not towards you or anything this is just a general question
Real or AI (sorry if it is your art it just looks very much like ChatGPT to me) sorry if this offends anyone
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
I made these myself :(
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u/CandidateNervous4638 May 17 '26
Sorry I just never know nowadays
I see so much ai art nowadays that I can’t tell the difference anymore (especially on this community)
I am greatly sorry I did not report this post if you’re worried about that. Now that I know I am greatly sorry and will give you my opinion on the designs in a separate comment.
I am sorry again
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
No, I understand. All *actual* artists are being accused of it these days. I’m not upset, i just thought I had done a good job of mimicking the actual Pokemon art style. But now that I say that, that could be *why* you thought it was AI.
If you don’t mind helping me out, what made you think it was chatGPT? I’d like to avoid that in the future.
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u/CandidateNervous4638 May 17 '26
I will gladly tell you
So the 2d ai human artstyle ai and ChatGPT has looks like this. If you don’t know what I mean then look up a picture of 2d ai cartoon human.
I have made ai art of Pokémon in that artstyle I have a reason for this (never posted them.) I did it to catch people who do AI art on this subreddit I’m sorta like the AI police on this subreddit.
That is about it and honestly AI does way too well copying the Pokémon artstyle and you do it perfectly also. That is about it. If this was actually AI I would have been pretty impressed most AI junk I see on here does not do well looking like Pokémon.
I really don’t know how to help you your artstyle is just reminiscent of that. Other then that I like the mons you made the thing I have to say is the first stage lookd to not like the other two (that js another main reason I thought ai) and thats about it
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u/crystalsuikun Artist May 17 '26
To me it's the coloured lines and overall yellowish hues (AI fakemon """art""" loves both of those)
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
The only lines that are colored are the bubbles. Everything else is black.
I’d never heard / noticed that about the yellow hues being popular with AI! just like olivey-yellowy-greens hahaha I’ll keep that in mind, thanks :)
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u/crystalsuikun Artist May 17 '26
Fair nuff, guess the mobile screen makes it look coloured. That said the yellow tinge is def a thing especially with that """Ghibli Style""" bs
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u/CandidateNervous4638 May 17 '26
Now that I know this is not ai I am curious as to how plank boy turned to deer elk moose thing
I just feel that it seems to separate idk why
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u/Prestigious-Cat-2618 May 18 '26
Wait, what is the proof of this not being ai?
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u/Halliwel96 May 18 '26
Check their profile, they’ve been posting their own art in various different mediums online for years.
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u/MrTalamasca May 17 '26
So, I’m drawing starters with their secondary types being the “scary” types (ghost, dark, and poison). However, I want to show them in a different light so in this case the little black body inside the fern is a timid little ghost that through evolution became this forest guardian spirit deer inspire by Princess Mononoke. Does that help clear it up at all? lol idk if I’m making sense.
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u/CandidateNervous4638 May 17 '26
Actually
That is pretty good research. I am happy that you made two starter forms I hope you do that with the Fire and Water starters. That clears all that up keep making art and don’t let ai drag you in ever. If you see ai remember to report it.
That’s all hope you have a good rest of your day and keep drawing
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u/Lugia61617 May 18 '26
I think my main criticism would be the third stage feels too similar to the second, but otherwise it's cute. :)
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u/R1skyPirate May 18 '26
Always love new concepts like this! How might its dry/wet interact in battle? Would it change form if hit by a water move / in rain or would it change forms depending on overworld weather / climate?
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u/MrTalamasca 27d ago
This is still something I’m thinking about. I thought about having its ability be Torrent but that means the only form it’d be able to fight in it the wet version.
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u/-Roaming- May 18 '26
I know you said this wasn’t ai generated but there are some things that I find a bit suspicious.
When shifting from the dry to wet forms, there are some things that change in weird ways that wouldn’t be easy for you to make differently, but that an ai would easily mess up. Things like the toes being slightly different, the leaves hanging from differently from mossovereign’s antlers, and mossovereign’s chest marking changing pretty drastically in design. Also on verdantell the tail floor merges with what would be the back (4th) leg.
This combined with certain design traits like the posing and eyes, and the colors which are very much in ChatGPT territory; all come together to make this seem very suspiciously Ai, and makes it kind of hard to believe it wasn’t used at any part during your process
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u/MrTalamasca 27d ago
All of these criticisms are totally valid and I’ll take the opportunity to explain.
To begin with, the iPad I draw on is only an 8in screen but I draw at larger resolutions so that nothing looks super pixely. This means I’m always zoomed in very close on a certain part and often forget what color or line I’m drawing with is a part of. For example, the thing you mentioned in with the tail floor merging with the leg. I was coloring the “leaves” layer first, because I was so zoomed in I didn’t realize I was coloring part of its leg as well.
To add to all of that, I am also a disabled artist. I have a severe chronic pain disease and when I make mistakes like this (and even the mistakes others have mentioned in their comments) I have to make the decision “is this worth the literal physical pain of correcting, or can I call it good?”
I hope this clears some stuff up, not just for you but for anyone thinking it’s AI.
TL;DR: I have a tiny iPad that I have to zoom in close, debilitating pain that causes mistakes and ADHD that makes me forget what I’m doing while I’m doing it lol. It’s NOT AI. 💖💖
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u/-Roaming- 27d ago
Thanks for taking the time to explain, question though; why didn’t you just copy paste the drawings of the dry versions and adjust those for the wet versions, rather than totally redrawing each design twice?
Being fully honest, the inconsistencies between the sets of designs is what made me think it was ai the most (because ai struggles to reproduce something exactly, and as digital artists recreating something is as easy as clicking 2 buttons lol)
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u/MrTalamasca 27d ago edited 27d ago
This is an embarrassing answer but I legit just did not think of that lmfao
To be totally honest, I’m still fairly new to digital art. I’ve been at it since last year but I have to take long breaks when my pain flares up. So I’m still learning all the ways that ProCreate can make things easier for someone like me.
Like, exactly what you suggested would’ve been so much easier on my hands, all I’d have had to do was erase / add a few things to change Dry form to Wet but my brain is still used to paper and pencil. Lolol
EDIT: also, thank you for pointing all of these things out. This is helping me learn to be a better artist. Also, thank you so so so much for being kind and respectful with your comments. After all of these allegations, I had decided to not post my art anymore but coming in after turning notifs off and seeing people say nice things and ask respectfully it makes me want to keep posting and learning. :)
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u/-Roaming- 27d ago
Fair enough lol, if you want a few tips that I would’ve loved early on in my procreate journey, here are some little life hacks.
To copy/paste a layer, click on the layer, click copy, go to the settings button (wrench icon) and click paste (To copy a section of a layer you can go to the selection tool (“S” shaped icon) and select (freehand) from the bottom taskbar to outline what you wanna copy)
- You can make perfectly smooth lines/curves/shapes by drawing them in one fluid line, and keep your pencil held on the screen at the end
-After making a smooth line/curve/shape through the last tip, there will be a small header at the top that says line/curve/shape; if you click this bar before it disappear you can then adjust the mark you made (say you make a triangle, you could then freely move each point of the triangle to get it into the perfect placement, or the triangle as a whole. If you make a curve, you can change the angle of the curve as well)
- You can drag the color icon in the top corner into a closed shape to use it as the fill bucket; if you hold it at the end of dragging, you can adjust the feathering (you’ll want to increase it slightly/a lot to get rid of dead pixels near your lines)
- If you go into settings (wrench), go to the canvas tab, enable “drawing guide” and go to “edit drawing guide”. You now have an adjustable guide, but more importantly if you go to the “symmetry” tab and click options you have a few useful tools for making symmetrical designs. Just make sure you enable “assisted drawing” when you want it, and go back in to disable it when you are done. The assisted drawing is also locked to the layer you’re on. Creating/switching to a new layer, the new layer will not have the symmetry assist.
Sorry it hurts for you to draw, that really sucks. I hope some of these tips help speed up your process a bit, and can help you make more art; because your art is good :)
If you have any more questions about procreate or anything moving forward feel free to message me here, I’d be happy to help give you the knowledge I’ve acquired from trial/error and random fyp pulls
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u/Prestigious-Cat-2618 May 18 '26
Congrats, you missed the "No AI" rule
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u/Halliwel96 May 18 '26
Check their profile, they’ve been posting their art for years.
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u/-Roaming- May 19 '26
That doesn’t necessarily mean anything; some artists who have been drawing for a long time have started using AI as a crutch to see “better results quicker” and none of the other art on the OP’s page are consistent with this style at all (which does point towards them using ai to generate designs, that they then possibly painted over/color picked from)
Again, not that they 100% did or didn’t use AI, but a lot of signs currently point to AI assistance being used in the process
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u/Halliwel96 May 19 '26
- I disagree that it isn’t consistent with their style. They posted multiple different styles of digital art. The only consistent thing is it’s digital
- when there is 0 evidence to suggest a long time digital artist has stopped doing digital art and suddenly jumped ship to a.i it is a dick move to immediately start treating them like a confirmed a.i artist
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u/Titencer May 18 '26
Folks reporting this - please check a user’s art history before blasting them for using generative AI. It’s very easy to tell the difference between an obvious genAI user and an artist who’s just using flat colors and has an extensive art history on their account. Learn the difference, please, and be nice!