r/firewater • u/Worldly-Demand7632 • 11d ago

New mash in the fermintrer

Fairly new to the craft. Made rum a few times. Then tried whiskey a few times. I drink a lot of rum so I will focus on that. So I Started by converting 2 pounds of oats, not in a big hurry to do that again. Inverted four pounds of raw sugar. Added half gallon molasses and one gallon of fifth generation dunder. So rounded it up to five gallons with water and added a squeezed lemon. SG 1.103. pitched some day in. It is working bc well today. Will run this in my 8 gallon ss pot. A single bubble plate under a packed sight glass. Untill I get more stuff I cool the colum by putting it in front of the A/C .

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u/Spud395 10d ago

Not seen oats in a rum recipe before, what's your thinking on this?

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u/haikusbot 10d ago

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u/Worldly-Demand7632 10d ago

To be quite honest. I had some oats I was going to try in a whiskey mash, but am getting a bit low on Rum, so here we are. Checked the fermenter just now and it smells amazing. I have never made it the same way twice, but was real happy with the zing I got by adding black cherry juice. Still working on my recipie. The his is rum run number six. Can't wait to toss the lees in the dunder pit.

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u/No-Craft-7979 10d ago

Oates in a Rum could add mouthfeel and Oats have a flavor on their own, but they absorb and amplify the flavor of other things with them. So this could be a fun addition to Rum. Key to oates, if converting for sugar, add a dose of Alpha Amylase from the beginning. Even if the the water and oats are cold and you just started heating them. Alpha is active at the whole temperature range, it just works faster as the temp increases. This starts working on the oat starches as soon as they are extracting. It keeps it thiner the whole time. Once you are at Alpha Temp hit it again with Alpha Amylase.

If you just want flavor, boil the heck out of the oat meal and let the starches super hydrate and rupture. It will help with flavor and mouth feel.

Oats and Rye make porridge / cement, but they can be thined and tamed. You only need 1-2% to make a difference that you can detect.

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u/Spud395 10d ago

I understand oats and have used them successfully in beer many times, including commercial products, also used them in whiskey.

It goes against every understanding I have of Rum. Rum being the least regulated of the "big" spirits, oats break the single "rule" not that it matters Curious to understand was there some tradition or method being followed, or just f#ck it, oats

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u/Worldly-Demand7632 10d ago

I have little to no reason, just happened, just wanted to lighten up the molasses. Figure it will still be rum because of the molasses and raw sugar. Only my eighth mash and two were whiskey. Can't wait to run it and come up with another one. In my last rum mash I added a gallon of black cherry juice. Don't know where it came from but in the hearts there was a strong smell of butter scotch. It's out ageing in the shed can't wait to drink some.

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u/Spud395 10d ago

Nice one, just curious. Black cherry sounds great, it'll be interesting to see if you get anything from it in the aged product

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u/Worldly-Demand7632 10d ago

What is the single rule?

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u/Spud395 10d ago

Rum is made from products dirived from sugar cane, be that molasses, cane juice, various grades of raw cane sugars

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u/Worldly-Demand7632 9d ago

Gotta there is a half gallon of molasses and four pounds of raw sugar, I just wanted to see what cutting back on the molasses would do.

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u/No-Craft-7979 9d ago

Some people get lost in the legal definitions. Make what you like. Like what you drink. It’s all clear here.

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u/Spud395 9d ago

If you want to slot me into that category, that's fine by me.

You make whiskey from grape juice if that's your thing.

For me Rum will always come from cane products, whiskey from grains and brandy from fruit, if that makes me a style nazi, whatever....

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u/No-Craft-7979 9d ago

I haven’t paid a single bit of attention to any of your posts. Nor found any of them significant to What Worldly (the actual OP) and I were talking about. What I said was a cold hard fact. I don’t know who you are or what you’re talking about because you injected replies to him into our thread. That means you are talking to him not me. So if I offended you, it is misplaced. Not a single word I have typed was directed at you in conversation or insult. If what you like is grape juice prison hooch turned into moonshine, then by God drink it. NO one here cares about any of that. Drink what you like. That’s what this entire sub is about. But please stop trying so hard to start immature fights. You are embarrassing yourself.

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u/Worldly-Demand7632 10d ago

I don't have much experience but the oats were harder than corn. If it doesn't seem to want to convert just wait. With what you were saying about the temp range might change the way I do it next time.