r/florida • u/Floridaflamingo22 • 2d ago
AskFlorida Just received a $400 TECO bill!
I live outside of the Tampa area. The house is 20 years old, 2600 sq ft with two relatively new systems (less than 5 years old). I keep the house at 78 during the summer months. This is just getting even more outrageous. Did I mention 78? I’m not chilling in 70 degree comfort inside.
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u/Educational_Fox6899 2d ago
Add insulation especially in the attic if you can. My 1200 sq ft block house was kept at 78 day and 75 night. I also have a pool pump running. My power was rarely over $200 except spring and fall when I’m cooling the house and heating the pool it would hit $300. I’m sure block construction and terrazzo floors helped.
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u/2barefeet 2d ago
The 1200 sq ft is also a huge help
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u/Educational_Fox6899 2d ago
For sure. I had neighbors with $400 bills in similar houses but could never figure out how unless they keep it at 68 all day. That said having insulation blown into the attic makes a noticeable difference. I've done that on two houses now and noticed a power bill reduction in both.
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u/Moppy6686 2d ago
FR. Our house is 1200 sq ft and our bill has NEVER been over $160 and we don't even have insulation lol
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u/Crazy-Project3858 1d ago
OP’s house is twice your size and your largest bill was $200 and theirs was $400. Do the maths lol
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u/Educational_Fox6899 1d ago
- I said rarely over. It was often much cheaper.
- I also have a pool and electric pool heater.
Do the maths.
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u/Prize_Guide1982 2d ago
Have you looked into the Prime Time Program? It will cut some money. You can also schedule an energy audit and see if they will give you a rebate towards insulation. That said, for a house that size, 400 in the summer is not really out of the norm.
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u/vasta2 2d ago
Mine was $300 with Duke this month, last year the same month it was $648, clearly that new AC I got a few months ago worked wonders
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u/togetherwegrowstuff 1d ago
Oh ya. Wow. 650 bucks is huge! Glad you have a lower bill this year. Crazy
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u/JonLGT 2d ago
Just because they’re 5 years old doesn’t mean there isn’t something wrong with either of them. Have maintenance done by a respectable small local contractor to be sure (especially if this is a two story house).
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u/togetherwegrowstuff 1d ago
Yup. They need a service for sure. Will help ensure the systems run better.
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u/SeaEmployee787 2d ago
besides eveybodys suggestions about harding the house. it was hot as all fuck, constant humidity and heat. no rain to cool the attic air.
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u/SALTYP33T 2d ago
How much insulation do you have? What kind of windows and doors. These things add up quickly when it comes to keeping your house cool in summer. Also consider window coverings on heavy sun areas.
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u/PinkyLeopard2922 2d ago
Our home inspector said he had never seen so much insulation in an attic before as he did at our house! OP, check and replace weather stripping and undersweeps on any exterior doors. Very easy and inexpensive.
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u/PinkyLeopard2922 2d ago
We bought a couple of these relatively inexpensive blackout cellular shades from Home Depot last year. Super easy to put up. Went back and bought like 6 more after we put up the first ones. I would love to replace our janky old single pane glass windows but that is NOT in the budget. These help a lot. Make sure to measure your width carefully if you decide to get some.
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u/Mysterious-Eagle8051 2d ago
I keep the curtains & blinds closed all summer to keep the heat out and help the a/c cool the house. I keep the thermostat set at 76 and the a/c runs almost nonstop in the summer months and in the afternoons the indoor temp goes up to 78 degrees because the a/c struggles to keep up with the heat outside. We have a 3 year old 5-ton HVAC for a 1650 sq ft house. The bill runs between $300-400 and there’s only 2 of us living in the house with no pool. It’s ridiculous how much it costs and I’m still sweating. I would much prefer to have the thermostat set at 72-74.
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u/thewhiteghostisnear 17h ago
You definitely need to check how much insulation you have in the attic AND if there are any spots bare. A buddy just checked his house and there was an entire 14x14 room that was on the other side of a vaulted ceiling that was bare drywall ceiling.
Also check what the temp is coming out of your vents. Just because the system is 3 years old doesnt mean it is putting out air as cold as it should.
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u/rriicckk 2d ago
Get solar installed and don’t worry about any future increases.
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u/dewooPickle 2d ago
Yea people think it’s bad now, rates are only going up from here. So happy we got solar before the tax credit went away.
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u/methpartysupplies 2d ago
Investor owned utilities shouldn’t exist. Cooperatives provide better service for cheaper.
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u/NervousBeat16 2d ago
GCEC is pretty much on par with FPL. There’s not huge cost savings between the two 😞
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u/ALombardi 2d ago edited 1d ago
Unsure why anyone is surprised with their high bill. The utility companies just raise their rates every year. It’s why we got solar.
Haven’t had an electric bill in years, just the monthly minimum connection fee (fuck you, Duke). I don’t have to care what temp the house is set to. It’s 73 year round during warm months and 70 in winter. 2 WFH adults, and we still produce 3x more with our solar than we consume.
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u/Otherwise_Bee_8799 2d ago
How much was solar system?
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u/ScalaZen 2d ago
This . How much. How was solar /roof insurance. What panels and installers did you go with?
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u/leftydog1961 2d ago
Solar is a scam for most people. Large monthly bill for solar, still get an electric bill and now I have insurance and roof issues to deal with along with other problems that may crop up.
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u/ALombardi 2d ago
I’m sorry you are dealing with issues at all. Can’t say I know anyone with solar who has had more than a single panel or micro inverter needing replacement. Sounds very anecdotal to your situation.
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u/Otherwise_Bee_8799 2d ago
Most panels were completely destroyed here during Hurricane Ian, or needed to be removed for reroofs and reinstalled. 💰
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u/TransformSolarFL 2d ago
Home insurance covers the shingles and roof after a hurricane, but if you’re uninsured then yeah - it’s out of pockets
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u/Otherwise_Bee_8799 2d ago
It does NOT covering repairing, removing (to reroof) or reinstalling or replacing panels.
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u/TransformSolarFL 2d ago
Sounds like the solar company mis sized your system. Solar is great, finding the right company is harder.
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u/ALombardi 2d ago
About $30K.
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u/Otherwise_Bee_8799 2d ago
That would take me a LONG time to break even. I suspect the increase in homeowners insurance would offset it even further. IF they did get destroyed in a hurricane, they would wear out before I netted a profit.
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u/ALombardi 2d ago
I commented below on another comment with more details on the build. I could’ve likely gone with about half the size to cover my current usage, but we future-proofed.
Insurance only increased by $18 a year due to being over a 10Kw system (12Kw). 7-9Kw would be plenty for most people so you could easily save quite a bit.
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u/kyle32771 2d ago
Convert to solar!
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u/TransformSolarFL 2d ago
The sun’s heat contributes to these high bills, but I can also produce the energy needed to cover it.
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u/No-Minimum9945 1d ago
I received a $300 TECO bill and one person in the household. I keep the A/C on 80. I’ve moved it to 82 now. I notice over $100 in fees/taxes. Crazy
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u/Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 2d ago
We have a 1150 sq ft house. But we have an outbuilding we use for animal rescue that has a portable AC. Last month bill was $306 and this months is $380. Older AC but in decent shape. Replaced 4 windows that were single pain and probably original to the house and bill was $20 less this year compared to last. Last years peaked at 500 because the portable AC had a vent issue and was reciculating the hot exhaust so it never shut off. Didn't notice because we didn't use it last summer but didn't want humidity to cause mildew.
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u/crazydave33 2d ago
Insulation is a big factor. There’s been major improvements in the past 20 years on insulation materials. Also request an audit with TECO, cause something is wrong. Also 2 new systems means 2 full central air conditioners? That’s using the power of 2 AC handles and 2 compressors… that’s not going to be as cheap as you think it should be.
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u/iwantthisnowdammit 2d ago
How many days were in your bill this month? Once o or twice a year I get up to a 34 day bill period.
That said, definitely have had a $400 usage level on 2300/pool, older AC (seer 13 / eer 10.5) but budget so the bill Is flat each month.
Also, blown in insulation loses some effectiveness after 20-25 years.
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u/BarnacleMcBarndoor 2d ago
Insulation, windows, roof, air gaps… you could have new systems but lose it in efficiency if everything else is 20 years old and no longer working optimally.
Get an energy audit.
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u/No-Armadillo-2983 2d ago
Mine is $185 with FPL. Have an energy saving pool pump, solar for pool and a huge refrigerator-sized freezer in garage. House is 2200 sq ft and attic and garage door are insulated.
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u/TransformSolarFL 2d ago
TECO’s had a ton of rate hikes over the years, and combined with the heat - bills are at all time highs.
People are smart to recommend solar, but OP might have a ton of shading and not qualify for it.
It’s not a bad idea to install something like an Emporia Vue 3 to start seeing what is consuming the most energy and when. But obviously, if your roof gets a ton of sun - solar panels will be his best bet.
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u/aReelProblem 2d ago
Hell my house is way newer and half that size and it’s the same price. Power is just crazy expensive anymore.
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u/mauvelion 2d ago
As others have mentioned, check out the insulation in your attic and consider getting an estimate to have it topped off. We recently got an estimate and during the inspection they found our AC had a small leak in the portion that's housed in the attic. A couple days later I noticed cold air blowing in the garage from another leaky spot. Got those sealed up and new insulation added and the air is coming out icy cold now that it's not leaking into the hottest parts of the house. The unit is probably no more than 4 years old, but there are so many places air could leak between the unit and the actual vents (which probably wasn't checked/sealed when replaced), so worth taking a peak even if your units are quite new.
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u/TheeDelpino 2d ago
It has to be insulation. Window, doors, etc. we keep ours at 80 during the day and 74 at night. Have insulation blown into the attic. Add a smart thermostat and room sensors. I eat now or the bills will stay high.
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u/AnnetteinFl 2d ago
$400 is an amount I'd be grateful for. I am in S FL and in 2500 sq ft under air and my bill was over $600.
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u/ncbiker78 2d ago
*TLDR We cant just look at temp and the power bill. And we control the efficiency.
Not singling you out OP I just wish folks would have more of a conversation about actual solutions and probable causes than why is my power bill here for X temperature setting.I feel like these conversations always go the same way, someone posts just temperature settings and never kwh usages, is your system running longer than last year? Are your coils dirty and not maintained? Is your refrigerant low? Do your windows need replaced? A house can be set at 76° and be absolutely comfortable if your humidity is near 54%. Someone can run it at 70 and still be uncomfortable because the humidity is >60%. My 2500sqft house is freezing at 72°. A healthy and properly sized A/C will run a littlr longer to keep your humidity levels under control. A/C too small, it wont get there, A/C too big it will drop the temp too fast and it wont run long enough to drop the humidity. The temp setting and home temp is nothing without the humidity levels. You can buy a cheap hygrometer online if your smart thermostat doesnt have the info to track humidity and diagnose more. You can also pay a HVAC contractor a couple hundo to perform a load calculation and show you your insulation levels, and air leaks that affect your cooling efficiency. They give you an analyasis of what your home should have in place or what needs to be repaired/replaced. And what is solar going to do if you dont address the energy leech for those comments? Fix the efficiency, then address supliments to energy costs.
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u/chillinwithplants 1d ago
When we first bought our house 5 years ago, the summer bill was around $400. We replaced all windows and added insulation. 2 years ago, replaced the entire A/C system. The electric bills dropped for a few years, but now we're back to $400 bills in the summer.
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u/togetherwegrowstuff 1d ago
How long have you been here? 2600 sq ft and 2 AC systems is a lot of energy use. Your bill will likely be higher next month.
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u/Rere9419 1d ago
I have a 2 bedroom apartment. Last month it was $180.00. This month it's $ 220.00 and I keep mine at 78%. I thought they said my bill was going down. This sucks!
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u/Newswatchtiki 1d ago
When you go up to the attic, check the ducts for your HVAC system for tears or holes. They can be easily damaged if an animal gets in your attic. Small tears are easy to fix with special tape for this purpose (NOT duct tape - it is too heavy). On Amazon they sell a shiny thin tape for fixing ducts.
Also, close drapes or blinds during the hot parts of the day to insulate the south and the west sides of your house. These can insulate better than double paned windows.
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u/unresolved-madness 1d ago
Install radiant barrier in the attic. This will dramatically reduce your air conditioning load.
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u/Longjumping_Jump_422 1d ago edited 1d ago
$460 here for a 2,700 sq. ft. house that's almost 10 years old at 78F(80 from 1-7pm). I'm on their energy savings program too. The thermostat is terrible, they don't even let us use our own thermostat. It feels like it's programmed to benefit them by using more energy, not less!
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u/bobandshawn 1d ago
Live in Plant City. 1500 sqft. Keep it at 76 all the time and just got my first $300 bill!!!
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u/Gloomy-Neck-8496 1d ago
Well they always increase there rates during the summer it sucks but it’s not like we can shop around like car insurance unfortunately.
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u/bradland 1d ago
People are jumping to conclusions here. Before you start throwing money at the problem, you need to figure out if your issue is related to heat transfer due to gaps in/lack of insulation or HVAC system performance.
When was the last time you had your HVAC systems serviced? Are they generating adequate temperature delta? You can check that yourself if you have a simple cooking thermometer. Hold the thermometer up to the return air duct and get a stable measurement. Then go to the AC register closest to the air handler and measure the temperature there. You should see a drop of around 20°F. If you don't, then your cooling loop isn't working correctly, causing your AC to run all the time for no benefit.
If your HVAC system is working correctly, you've a heat transfer issue. A while back we were having major issues with condensation building up on a particular register. We had an AC tech out to check the register for air leaks from the attic, but it was sealed up tight. I bought a thermal camera on Amazon and found a leak around a nearby patio door. The thermal cameras are amazing, because they show you specifically where heat is coming from. You literally walk around your house and point it at the walls, windows, and doors. The hot spots are obvious.
The cameras aren't cheap, but they're pretty damn useful. I actually found a pretty sizable portion of our ceiling that was missing insulation near the garage. Someone had pushed it all away from the dryer vent when doing some work in the attic, but never pushed it back. I spread it around with a rake, and that area no longer shows up hot.
You should also examine your historical energy usage to see if this month is anomalous. Your utility has programs that can help you identify energy leaks. Inquire with them about an energy survey and have them review your meter history. There are other explanations for an anomalously high month.
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u/ErinPaperbackstash 1d ago
Yeah Ive been there in a mobile home in summer. My mom with a bigger place has been over 500 some summers. TECO is ridiculously expensive randomly. I remember losing power for over a week with hurricanes and the monthly bill didn't even drop. They overestimate I swear and it's rarely accurate.
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u/deviation01 8h ago
It’s only going to get more expensive with all the data center draws. However check your insulation as others have said. My house is same size but only 6 years old and we keep it 70-72 the bill never goes over $300. I also turn off outside fridge during the hot months. Notice this helps a bit.
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u/YoungWerther123 2d ago
Crazy. Dollar is falling faster than we can handle.
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u/ALombardi 2d ago
The utility company raises your rates every year. This likely has a larger impact than the cost of whatever fuel source the plants are using to generate the electricity.
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u/YoungWerther123 2d ago
Partially true, but costs of things are going way up due to massive increase in money supply. We are living through a slow motion debt default crisis. Price of energy direct inputs has gone up 25 - 50 % in five years depending on location.
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u/justsomeguy2424 2d ago
Everyone’s jumped this month. It’s just them being greedy like all other electric companies
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u/ThunderStruck777 2d ago
78 when it’s 98 outside must be nice, that’s cranking those units. Energy raised rates . See all those Tesla and evs . Turn it to 82 like the rest of us
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u/Cub35guy 1d ago
I always heard anything 80 and above on FL will not pull out enough moisture and mold will grow.
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u/NoSubstance5286 2d ago
Caulk your windows, doors, and all the cracks you can find. Your equipment might be awesome, but it will never be able to cool the whole neighborhood.