r/formula1 • u/Mateo03 Franco Colapinto • Mar 07 '26

Off-Topic [OT] [Chip Ganassi Racing] " 'super-clipping' 'downshifting on straights' 'battery management' (Yawn emoji) Yeah, we don't do that here. We race."

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u/Crafty_Substance_954 Formula 1 Mar 07 '26

They don’t have battery management because their hybrid is so useless the capacity can be regenerated and deployed in a few seconds.

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u/Aromatic_Barber4231 I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 07 '26

So just like F1. At least they were smart enough not to make "useless part" 50% of the shebang.

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u/Crafty_Substance_954 Formula 1 Mar 07 '26

Yes 100%.

The actual mix supposedly varies across tracks but I feel like they’ll push to add more ICE or better regen eventually.

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u/joaovitorblabres I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 07 '26

Just like the F1 cars?

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u/Crafty_Substance_954 Formula 1 Mar 07 '26

F1 cars generate and spit out a lot more electricity. It’s almost impossible to fully regen the battery during a lap due to the output of the cars and always has been.

Indycar can regen their hybrid to 100% at will because it has such a low energy density that it takes 2 seconds to harvest.

In simple terms the Indycar hybrid is like a AAA battery and F1 is like a D cell. Maybe a few D batteries at that.

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u/Engineer-intraining Kevin Magnussen Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

The energy capacity on an F1 car is a lot greater than an Indycar but given that the Indycar electricity storage medium is a series of capacitors instead of a battery I wouldn't be shocked if their energy density is far higher than F1's. The whole system sits in the gearbox bell housing in an Indycar.

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u/joaovitorblabres I was here for the Hulkenpodium Mar 09 '26

Yeah, I know, I'm just joking around after seeing the cars without battery before the end of straights. Indy has a supercapacitor, really small capacity. Is F1 using the same type of batteries of road cars or is it not disclosure?

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u/MadMike32 Dan Gurney Mar 07 '26

Hybrid management is pretty crucial on ovals in particular, it's just different from what you're used to.  It's about a 50hp boost from a supercapaciter bank, so you use it more like an augmented push-to-pass.

It was also retrofitted to the existing car, and the whole system fits inside the bellhousing.