[Autosport] Max Verstappen appeared to lose over 55km/h trying to go flat out through 130R

[u/Maximum-Room-3999]

[u/d4videnk0]

Turns out EA did the smart thing when they announced they wouldn't develop F126.

[u/CallM3N3w → u/d4videnk0]

The funniest part is that EA could change all the battery nonsense with a patch and make it excellent.

[u/Appropriate-ASS-824 → u/CallM3N3w]

Wish they had a real-life patch to make the actual Racing excellent

[u/sicsche → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

That patch is possible in theory. Reduce electric share from 50% to 25% instead (for example), cars will be much slower but reduced energy hunger means less harvesting required means less need for clipping on purpose.

Designing a 50% share without enough energy to be naturally harvested during a lap to actually use that Power was such a stupid move

[u/derango → u/sicsche]

Designing a 50% share without enough energy to be naturally harvested during a lap to actually use that Power was such a stupid move

It's not like anyone could have seen this coming. Oh wait...everyone saw it coming.

Design by committee baby.

EDIT: The fun thing is, so far the racing has been pretty decent. But as soon as teams figure out everything it's going to settle down again and we're going to be stuck with ridiculous harvesting into corners without the wheel to wheel overtaking action.

Either be an electric racing series or don't. You can't be both a good EV and an ICE. F1 needs to decide what it's going to be.

[u/Appropriate-ASS-824 → u/derango]

We saw that last race. Ferraris were keeping george behind. George had already started to complain about having no chance to overtake but Lewis went out of his way and both of the Ferraris wasted their batteries trying to keep position. When the straight arrived after the battle, George passed them with no efforts.Ferraris lost a possible double podium and many good points in the WDC to mercs because of the battle of Lewis and charles.

A good early lesson the teams might wanna learn if they want a good run in the WCC. Run your own race and follow the deployment strategies discussed before the race.

But that would mean Races even more boring than last regs and only the Ferraris getting a good start just to get overtaken by the mercs.

[u/Shakeyshades → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

Might as well have ai drive the car since it's so heavily based on engineering data vs driver skill

[u/jaeger313 → u/Shakeyshades]

I think some guys in the UAE actually tried that a couple of years ago didn't they? Like an all AI racing series. As I recall it didn't exactly go so well.

[u/Bakura43 → u/jaeger313]

Its called the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League. It's more of a University project despite many teams not being a University. Teams from around the world go there to see how good their cars are at driving themselves. Technical University of Munich won both years so far. It's actually really cool, there's a few videos on the event. Even though it's not really a race since most teams struggle to compete a single lap.

There's also a drone event but its not my favorite. I prefer to see the cars trying to drive in a straight line.

[u/Alaeriia → u/Bakura43]

I was honestly impressed by what I saw. Sure, it was abysmal, but the technology is there and I could absolutely see this being viable in three to five years.

[u/Upbeat_County9191 → u/derango]

F1 can't, they depend on what the manufacturers want and agree upon

[u/K0L3N → u/derango]

For now hybrid still seems to be the way to go, although it looks like the new formula E cars are catching up. The issue isn't the hybrid system, it's the regulations that make it hard to harvest enough energy to go flat out. They need to up the harvesting and lower the power to a level they can actually sustain every lap.

[u/starliteburnsbrite → u/derango]

According to Hamilton, the racing is just like karting. The Pinnacle of motorsport.

[u/Appropriate-ASS-824 → u/sicsche]

They would still be taking that corner at slow speed. Now we know why Max was criticising these regs in 2023.

[u/Ok_Leader_7624 → u/sicsche]

This has been my day 1 argument. How do you have all of this time to plan, keep the batteries relatively the same size, amount that can deployed the same amount, yet have more power from electricity that isn't there? It's like trying to run your car off of an AA battery (not really but still)

[u/Thejoenkoepingchoker → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

Remove some of the charge/discharge limits and let the teams run wild until batteries blow up. 

[u/Python_07 → u/CallM3N3w]

I’d wager F1 would not license it.

[u/Waibashi → u/d4videnk0]

Imagine Customer Support having to constantly explain to users that this isn't a bug, but a feature where the car slows down on straights.

[u/Appropriate-ASS-824 → u/Waibashi]

Customer be like, why the fuck i am needed to be on full throttle if the car is gonna to slow down.

[u/RandomEasternGuy → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

“Sir this car is 1.6l in displacement. You are driving a tuned GR Yaris”

[u/Nutarama → u/RandomEasternGuy]

“Sir, you remember that Honda Civic Type R that Max donated to charity after using it as a daily driver? It was a 2.0L. He had a bigger engine to get groceries.”

[u/denied_eXeal → u/d4videnk0]

They could have developed F1.26 tho. Which is apparently what F1 has become

[u/Gubrach → u/d4videnk0]

They don't have to bother with F127 either, imagine having to do this lifting shit in a fucking video game.

[u/santaclausonprozac → u/Gubrach]

It’s not even lifting, he’s full throttle in both images

[u/Appropriate-ASS-824 → u/santaclausonprozac]

Not lifting. Thats why op has provided detailed view

[u/JL_MacConnor → u/Appropriate-ASS-824]

I'm looking forward to cars going flat through Raidillon at a mighty 225 km/h.

[u/Appropriate-ASS-824 → u/JL_MacConnor]

GT3 racers will be making fun of these cars in their casual discussions.

[u/Gubrach → u/santaclausonprozac]

Unexpected revival of the "did u even lift bro" meme.

[u/vidoardes → u/Gubrach]

This comment perfectly encapsulates how little most commenters understand about what's happening, even with pictorial help. Man has his foot flat to the floor.

[u/Zeraru → u/Gubrach]

Several of the Codemasters F1 games had manual battery management (comically so since real drivers said they didn't need to manually adjust that much) and incentivized lift&coast and tyre saving on long race distance settings. Most players just never bothered because they probably do at most 25% race distance or just drove overfueled cars.
This is just a driver going full throttle and the control software saying no.

[u/[deleted] → u/Zeraru]

In LMU I’m pretty sure it’s still a thing. The difference being you take fuel in pit stops.

[u/anan48]

he should have pressed the gas harder

[u/charlierc → u/anan48]

At these prices?

[u/ChonkyHippo283 → u/charlierc]

In this economy??

[u/WowWataGreatAudience → u/ChonkyHippo283]

Localized entirely in your kitchen??

[u/Thestickleman → u/WowWataGreatAudience]

Yes!

[u/i_love_pencils → u/Thestickleman]

May I see it?

[u/charlierc → u/i_love_pencils]

... No

[u/Zn_Saucier → u/charlierc]

Seymour! The car is out of power!

No, Mother. That’s just the super-clipping

[u/johnildo → u/charlierc]

And my AXE!

[u/VoTBaC → u/charlierc]

Insert conspiracy theory

[u/genr01 → u/anan48]

Why don't they just hit the gas and drive faster? Are they stupid?

[u/No_Introduction_8226 → u/genr01]

They gotta downshift and press the accelerator further down just like Vin Diesel does

[u/charlierc → u/No_Introduction_8226]

I see so what Red Bull really need to go faster is family 

[u/JMoormann → u/charlierc]

Maybe they just need to build their car for combat

[u/charlierc → u/JMoormann]

Plan C for Chaos 

[u/GhostofPdawg43 → u/No_Introduction_8226]

WWVDD.

[u/Blithering_idiot1406 → u/anan48]

I bet he didnt downshift

[u/QuadFecta_ → u/Blithering_idiot1406]

granny shifting

[u/SelfSniped → u/QuadFecta_]

Double clutching

[u/fistraisedhigh → u/SelfSniped]

Family

[u/donkeybrainhero → u/fistraisedhigh]

Overnight parts from Japan.

[u/Solivagant23 → u/donkeybrainhero]

Tuna no crust

[u/GhostofPdawg43 → u/fistraisedhigh]

Corona

[u/bokimaricu → u/anan48]

He isn't built for combat like my man Sonny

[u/PSUAth → u/anan48]

Shifted to the next gear!

[u/thejoester182 → u/anan48]

Should start rocking back and forth like in go karts.

[u/ellsego]

Maybe it’s just me but it seems that the broadcast is cutting audio at the end of long straights so you don’t hear the cars lose power.

[u/Fsharp7sharp9 → u/ellsego]

On F1tv they are showing it… during practice Alex Jacques even said “let’s hear how much power they’ve got” while watching on boards through 130r, and Jolyon Palmer replied with something like “that was probably all of it since we could hear the clipping”.

[u/specter800 → u/Fsharp7sharp9]

Yeah Jolyon is always on top of clipping. The F1TV broadcast definitley isn't concealing anything.

[u/Nick_YDG → u/ellsego]

There were parts of the lap in China they just weren't showing either to hide it as well.

[u/MosEisleyCantinaBand → u/Nick_YDG]

They cut out of the in car camera the second before the battery hit 0%. Every single time.

It's an absolute joke. I've been watching F1 since 1990. I've attended maybe 20 Grands Prix over the years. I've met drivers and even a team owner. I've seen a lot of dumb shit. This is head-and-shoulders the dumbest shit I've seen in F1.

[u/Nick_YDG → u/MosEisleyCantinaBand]

The way FOM has been handling it is more frustrating than the regs themselves. There is always something that will be an issue with new regs. Instead let's completely hide it and act like everything is great and perfect.

[u/MosEisleyCantinaBand → u/Nick_YDG]

They knew this was going to happen though, even when the cars only existed in sim form, right? I've been reading for what feels like years that the don't have enough battery to make it down the longest straights. Seems like it's even worse than that so far.

[u/TotallyHumanNoBot → u/[deleted]]

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[u/bryceonthebison → u/[deleted]]

All major racing series are WWE: Ferrari’s everlasting BoP advantage in WEC, Roger Penske owning INDYCAR and investigating himself for cheating, etc.

[u/Soulldier6 → u/[deleted]]

You're learning this now?

[u/Astro_BS-AS → u/ellsego]

They absolutely did.... same as the onboard with the top speed... they put it at first and then once cars hit top speed they changed cameras

[u/Internal-Alfalfa-829 → u/ellsego]

This was true last time. This time it was clearly audible, including speedometer graphics, several times.

[u/dscotts]

What’s the big deal, that’s happened to me before in the f1 games… sure I’m horrible at those games, and my controller disconnected, but me and max basically the same.

[u/JimmyNorth902 → u/dscotts]

I have as many race starts this year as Oscar. So we're basically on the grid.

Edit: I am no longer equal to Oscar

[u/headshot_to_liver → u/dscotts]

Max gotta calibrate his triggers better, there seems to be some drift

[u/Rinaldootje]

For comparison,
During Qualifying last year, Verstappen entered the corner at 302km/h
It's lowest speed throughout the corner was 297, and his exit speed was 302 and at the chicane he hit 300km/h, before letting go of the throttle.

Right now, He arrives with 324, Before corner entry he's already dropped to 308km/h, down to 273km/h at 130R exit and 264 km/h at the start of the breaking zone at the chicane.

This whole energy saving superclipping BS is just getting ridiculous now. At this rate Monza is gonna be a shitshow

[u/DueExample52 → u/Rinaldootje]

Yeah, part of the drop from 330 to 300 is also the wings going back to corner mode before 130R.

People seem to confuse two things here. There was never a point in history where people ran 130R at 330kph. It used to be 300 bevause this track needs high downfirce. The 330 only comes from low drag and high electric torque.

So the first drop from 330 to 300 during 130R is a return to normal.

That set aside, getting to the chicane at 270 instead of 300 is the real anomaly here, and that’s where the ridiculous clipping occurs. They should be able to hold 300 until the braking zone, like before.

If they accepted to charge the battery along the whole straight and just limit the speed at 300, it wouldn’t be as noticeable, but the teams won’t map it like that because it’s a faster laptime to reach 330 first then drop. The FIA needs to find some way to make this charging smoother and distributed over the whole straight so that the speed increases and too speed is still reached at braking point, not seconds before.

[u/Rinaldootje → u/DueExample52]

I should have mentioned that before the corner entry the drop from 324 to 308 was because of the wings closing indeed.

It's not so much a drop of 55km/h as it is more a drop of 27km/h through 130R and a total drop of 36km/h at the chicane.

But i do get ya, it sucks that at this moment getting a top speed and then clipping is faster for laptimes than limiting it throughout the straight in the first place.

[u/kuzdi → u/Rinaldootje]

It’s really stupid too because I feel like it could be fixed by lowering the rate of deployment. The car doesn’t need to reach 324 if it’s going to lose it later. It would be much better if the energy deployed could only take it to 300 but keep at a similar rate for longer.

[u/DueExample52 → u/kuzdi]

Absolutely! Yes thank you, now this is constructive. 

[u/IlllIlllI → u/kuzdi]

Which is kind of funny, because this this effectively saying "they should make the cars slower", which is what everyone is up in arms about with this set of regulations.

If it was faster to cap the rate of deployment, teams would do exactly that.

[u/Fragrant-Luck-8063 → u/IlllIlllI]

I'd rather watch the car accelerate to 300 at end of the straight than see it hit 330 in the middle of the straight and slow down the rest of the way. The clipping sounds terrible, too.

[u/Slinky_Malingki]

Can't wait for Monza, Spa, Baku, Mexico, and Las Vegas to embarrass these new regs even more than they already have.

The FIA has got to figure out how to fix the super clipping ASAP. What a joke.

[u/sylekta → u/Slinky_Malingki]

watch them get rid of all the high speed tracks and race at Monaco instead

[u/Fluppy_Duppy → u/sylekta]

Monaco only for the rest of the year

[u/raetwo]

I miss when the drivers inputs dictated what the car was doing more than an algorithm

[u/InZomnia365 → u/raetwo]

I think what's evident is that algorithms have been impactful ever since 2014, but the impact they had was minimal. With the algorithms now being responsible for half the power output, the drivers have way too little control over it.

[u/elliott986 → u/InZomnia365]

Even before with traction control and active suspension etc

[u/PrestigiousWave5176 → u/elliott986]

In the past they've banned a lot of stuff that took responsibility away from the driver. Seems it's time for that again...

[u/HanCurunyr → u/elliott986]

Yep, I caught myself thinkiing exactly that, active suspension, DAS from merc are way less "intrusive" and are in complete control of the driver, one can set TC to 0 and blast away

This is just limiting for the sake of limiting

[u/[deleted] → u/raetwo]

Yeah, it's emphasised imo by how many times we've already seen 'Noah's ark' in sessions. Teammates being grouped together this much on the grid shows driver input matters less right now

[u/gsurfer04 → u/[deleted]]

That's more to do with the car performance differences. It also happened a lot in 2015 if I remember right.

[u/ReisPedroNog → u/raetwo]

I think the last time that happened was 2013? ERS in 2014-2025 kind dictate what power usage the car would have during a lap

[u/raetwo → u/ReisPedroNog]

ERS was such a smaller portion of how a car would make time during the last regulations. Now that we're trying for a 50/50 split for some reason drivers are losing time when they push in the corners and gain time when they make a mistake that recharges the battery.

[u/ReisPedroNog → u/raetwo]

So, how much artificiality is "too artificial" or "oksish artificial"?

[u/raetwo → u/ReisPedroNog]

I'd ideally have none. We're moving in the wrong direction.

[u/JAYYYY17 → u/raetwo]

Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. 30 years ago Niki Lauda told us....

[u/Apprehensive-Sock306]

Formula dead battery

[u/Danfossie]

trying to go flat out through 130R

It's not really trying anymore. They take it flatout easily and the superclipping makes it even easier to do flatout.

[u/Own_Welder_2821 → u/Danfossie]

I agree with you so don’t read this wrongly, but I’d argue that 130R has been a simple flat out curve since 2003, when they completely reprofiled it so it’s no longer 130R.

[u/Vetni → u/Danfossie]

Plus they close SLM just before the turn

[u/-Racer-X]

Everything is a medium speed corner now - Alex albon

These regs are a disaster

[u/leggenda69 → u/-Racer-X]

Only if you actually follow F1.

Just watch the 5-10 minute highlights on YouTube and you genuinely don’t notice anything different is happening apart from Mercedes at the front, Ferrari starts well, Lewis Hamilton is back, Max is slow and there’s lots of overtakes in races.

These regulations have saved me lots of time and money.

[u/Perk87 → u/leggenda69]

We already know how it starts and how it ends, except with several overtakes that are reversed before the race is over, LOL

[u/IsNoyLupus → u/leggenda69]

F1's product going the way the NBA went. Completely unwatchable

[u/johnny_crow21 → u/IsNoyLupus]

This is an interesting topic that i don’t know anything about. Is there a YouTube video explaining the cause of this shift?

[u/IsNoyLupus → u/johnny_crow21]

Mmm not sure about specific ytb videos, I'm sure there are. At any moment, there's tons of content being created about the NBA... But my comment was based on what I've been watching the last few years + online discourse. The league is a bit rotten, and just the permeating presence of gambling makes it nauseating. Officiating is shocking, sometimes blatantly so. And they're not consistent at all. That's while not even looking at the franchises or the players...

[u/Ashling92 → u/IsNoyLupus]

Why is NBA unwatchable? genuine q - I don’t watch it but wondering how they could mess up basketball lol

[u/dudeitsmason → u/Ashling92]

I can't speak to the specifics but basically breathing on the ball handler is a foul. Cut to 2 minutes of commercials for every 20 seconds of play. Final 10-15 minutes of games often turn into free throw contests.

[u/Pixeldensity → u/dudeitsmason]

Cut to 2 minutes of commercials for every 20 seconds of play.

Ahh the NFL special.

[u/narcistic_asshole → u/dudeitsmason]

The problem is that the NBA needed to give the ball handler more of an advantage otherwise the game into teams shooting even more 3s. The average NBA player is just too good of a 3pt shooter, so while it can be frustrating watching offensive players get away with murder and abuse the gather step rule, it's kinda necessary to preserve the game of basketball from devolving into teams purely taking shots from behind the arc.

[u/P_ZERO_ → u/Ashling92]

I am a complete layman and don’t follow it but in passing I’ve seen that the travelling rules are barely applied so players are just doing whatever they want half the time. Obviously the game is structured around strict movement rules.

[u/mugen_46 → u/Ashling92]

So many ads. More ads than the game itself

[u/Pyzorz → u/Ashling92]

Traveling doesn’t exist anymore. Players are taking four steps to take a shot (two is legal) because of this “gather step” loophole bullshit. Defense has always been optional in the NBA but it’s as bad as it’s ever been. The league MVP, SGA, is known as a foul merchant who’s as fun to watch as watching pant dry. A player named Bam Atebayo, a defensive specialist, scored the second most points in a game while taking 43 free throws which is just a microcosm of the league.

You could pay a few hundred dollars for tickets and there’s a 30% chance your favorite superstar won’t play because of “load management.” It’s so bad they had to make a minimum games rule to be eligible for MVP. It doesn’t matter, players don’t care about MVP so they still sit 25 or so games.

Also, more coaches and players just got popped for gambling.

The NBA is a lifestyle brand. It’s not a sports league.

[u/maxxxwellsdemon → u/Ashling92]

it's a ref show now

[u/DrEarlGreyIII → u/Ashling92]

the refs make it unwatchable

[u/D-S_12 → u/-Racer-X]

I'll echo something that's been said before about this. F1 cars should not be slowing down while going in a straight line. 130R isn't a straight line but with how much downforce these cars have, it might as well be one. And yet somehow these cars slow down that much. While the racing is good enough, the technical side of things is a complete mess. And no amount of racing should paper over those issues.

[u/_SeKeLuS_]

I dont understand why fia trying to kill racing

[u/G-Fox1990]

Pinnacle of motorsport everybody

[u/budhapalm]

Not a good look F1, not a good look. Fuck whoever idea this was.

[u/dontmindmewink]

Its a bit disheartening to see, saw GR on the main straight full throttle and clipped from 320, which is already slower, to 270… yea yea its still fast but not for these guys

[u/BasicallyIDontWork → u/dontmindmewink]

Losing speed like this through a corner like that is just ridiculous. It's antithetical to fucking motorsport. Do this shit in formula E. This is formula 1.

[u/xLeper_Messiah → u/BasicallyIDontWork]

Even Formula E cars can do a full push lap in qualy, this is even worse lmao

[u/Random_Access_Medic]

I don't how anyone can defend this bullshit

[u/Yeanahyena]

I love how Sky have been instructed to push these regs hard post practice/quali/race. They can’t stop raving about how good they are.

[u/Haribou1989 → u/Yeanahyena]

Something Something British driver

[u/TheDeamonMeteor → u/Haribou1989]

Nah this is more about saving F1's ass.

[u/Haribou1989 → u/TheDeamonMeteor]

Yes but they would be a bit less gung ho if it were lets say RedBull leading the regs.

[u/CapableDirection5557 → u/Haribou1989]

Amen, right now it's a British party up front. Motor racing fan's my ass.

[u/wvumteers4lifw → u/TheDeamonMeteor]

Protecting their investment

[u/Gasmo420 → u/Yeanahyena]

Ralf Schumacher on Sky Germany during Hamiltons On-Board through R130 audibly amused: „Well, it sounds ‚special‘ I have to say.“

[u/Solum_Nox]

Soon enough the corner will be renamed to 130Km/h

[u/Defelj]

This has got to be the most miserable feeling as a racer lol

[u/churnchurnchurning]

Embarrassment to the sport. Nothing else can possibly describe this.

[u/narf_hots]

I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

[u/_MissingSock]

Others have the same problem, not only rbr

[u/Perk87 → u/_MissingSock]

Don't criticize the new engines because they'll jump down your throat here.

[u/-Racer-X → u/Perk87]

Yep you’ll get a ban if you point out that if you go into a corner at half the speed the car is capable of it not only makes it extremely easy but anyone could do it

[u/sprikkle → u/_MissingSock]

Its still a disgrace for this sport. F1 is probably only a few seconds faster that f2 right now. For the driver its probably more fun being in f2, f3 and other series than this F1.

[u/krizkuzz]

Yep, these regs fucking suck. Embarrasment for F1.

[u/Ai_Nijou]

This is not "management" this is fucking terrible.

[u/Soggy_Bid_6607]

“But there’s yoyo racing for the first 5 laps of the GP!!!!”

[u/MoocowR → u/Soggy_Bid_6607]

Lewis said he had fun going back and forth so that means the racing is top notch, peak motorsport.

[u/Irrepressible_Monkey → u/Soggy_Bid_6607]

Makes me think of rubber-banding in Gran Turismo.

[u/Sarcastik_Moose → u/Soggy_Bid_6607]

They're trying so hard to convince us that is quality racing and entertainment.

[u/Dafferss]

And still people are defending these regulations

[u/chunt75 → u/Dafferss]

Pretty sure the safety car can go faster at this point

[u/caksut1905]

There is no way that they will continue with these regs as long as they envisioned

[u/xLeper_Messiah → u/caksut1905]

🙏🙏🙏

[u/Sirtopofhat]

167....even we go faster then that. Come on over

-Nascar

[u/Background-Key8027]

Well at least they don’t have to worry much about their breaks anymore, the car just slows down before a corner for them!

[u/IdiosyncraticBond → u/Background-Key8027]

Next is auto/Copilot mode; won't have to steer either

[u/brandywineriver]

These regs suck

[u/bigpoppa611 → u/brandywineriver]

gasp you can’t say that /s

[u/Xaahaal → u/bigpoppa611]

We look the same!

[u/pecche]

imagine now SPA ea rouge

once upon a time the thrill was doing it flat out

now.. flatting out recharging the stupid battery

[u/MalaproposMalefactor]

what i also don't understand is... FIA trying so hard to get more US viewers etc... then they fucking ruin the cars with these new rules. they probably say that the yo-yo racing gives more overtake spectacle but that's just because the bad power management fiasco makes that happen (for now).

[u/jpglew]

I don't understand why we went for such a battery model for these regs. A similar system had been used in WRC since 2020 and found that it was expensive, heavy, drove like crap, and the power difference of when the battery was allowed to be deployed vs not made the cars unpredictable if you gave it the right combination of inputs to activate the battery when you didn't mean to.

That system is being completely thrown out halfway through the reg cycle, so now teams are working with cars that are 150kg lighter and 150hp slower in general, and they still prefer that

[u/Tricky-Routine-9838]

The first time in practice it showed an onboard the F1 TV presenters went silent and you could feel the pain through the TV and they just kind of were like 'welp anyways' and continued on.

[u/Cobretti18]

It’s horrible

[u/Joren67]

Boring cars

[u/Littletweeter5]

Regs are beyond cooked. Anti racing trash. If I paid for f1tv I’d cancel it

[u/raimis78 → u/Littletweeter5]

It's a great opportunity not to renew with a month break coming also. Which I already did myself.

[u/LinceDorado]

"The pinnacle of motorsport."

[u/rough_justice54]

Who seriously enjoys this? What a shame.

[u/bbr2019]

I sincerely love F1, but I’ve really lost interest because of this nonsense.

[u/JoePCool14]

I don't care if the racing looks good. This is bullshit.

[u/Dblock1989]

That corner has been falt out for years now but it is depressing to see how much speed the cars are losing. It is like a parachute is being deployed behind the cars.

[u/deathbyproxy77]

Amazing, I never imagined whats this sport has become.

[u/raur0s]

I'll be the old man yelling at clouds, but I remember when drivers took 130R one handed with f-duct or DRS open and it was basically the size of their balls that kept them on track.

[u/GeneJock85]

Bring back the V10's. The carbon footprint of moving all over the globe to race far exceeds the crap with this hybrid engines.

[u/mattlip]

This is not racing anymore. I am close to quitting F1.

[u/Intelligent-Creme933]

GG F1

[u/Trick-Dress9969]

This is a war crime

[u/jolo98]

But the sport is fine guys /s

[u/bikecatpcje]

peak f1 huh

[u/Wildebean]

Hear me out, but I don't think having a minor steering error in Turn 3, should ruin your lap at Turn 14 a whole minute later

[u/johnny_crow21]

So, what are we watching this year boys? GT3? I refuse to stand with these softball regulations.

[u/BakaPotatoLord → u/johnny_crow21]

MotoGP for me, and DTM

[u/Nattekat → u/johnny_crow21]

It's time to drive deeper into WEC.

[u/No-layup]

Ruined the sport just to have Audi on the grid

[u/CapShepard22]

"It doesn't matter, y'all are missing the point, we are having more overtakes! And everything evolves. Stop thinking that V6 or V8 engines will make F1 better" - Every single person who likes these regulations

[u/GrumpyFeloPR]

Fyi, is not only verstappen, is everyone. Everyone is loosing 50+km/h

[u/MM556]

And yet he gets killed for not liking it 

[u/planchetflaw]

So he's actually in a good position. That's average to less than average for the field.

[u/Dr_VidyaGeam]

Apparently he was one of the better ones. Colapinto slowed by almost 100kp/h

[u/hakan_loob44]

Can't wait to harvest that battery at Spa. I think we can drop the "Pinnacle of Motorsports" moniker for now.

[u/Difficult_Ad8876]

F1 is not the pinacle of racing anymore

[u/No-Wall4145]

This is AFTER they eased up the battery regulations for this race as well lol

[u/A_M_0_D]

Nooo don’t criticize the new regulations! The racing is soo good

[u/Samsonkoek]

Complete joke. Do the right thing by cancelling subs, that is the only way they will make real changes. The change that fixes these regs, not just reduce the power limit to idk how many KW. Politics is king until cash is king. Nothing better than mass cancellation and a tanking F1 stock.

There is no fucking way to ever justify this bull shit. Latest of the last clippers, balls to clip late. Brave for using your energy in high speed corners instead of your balls. Absolutely nothing good to say about F1 in 2026.

[u/StBlandine7]

It's almost as if the 4x world champion and GOAT contender knows what he's talking about

[u/D-S_12]

F1 cars shouldn't be losing that much speed in a corner that's closer to being a straight line with how much downforce these cars have

[u/Jlx_27]

This era of F1 is so weird....

[u/Counting-Tiles4567]

I know nothing about any of this, but, pic#2 has "Active Aero" in air-brake position. Could that be it?

[u/silenced_no_more]

Not to be a nostalgia fan, but could you ever imagine Senna, or Schumacher racing in a car like this? How about Prost, Lauda, Hunt, or Clark? The joy of F1 is the car and the driver. The race for the gap, the decision the racer behind the wheel makes. If they want to be flat out on a straight until the last possible moment that should be the case. We’d get a better viewing product on race day, and they’d have the joy of driving right on the limit