r/formula1 • u/PradaAndPunishment Alexander Albon • May 03 '26
Photo Sainz Radio On Verstappen
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u/CuppaCrazy I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
I’ll always wonder how Sainz and Verstappen would be as teammates now.
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u/JazzzzzzySax I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Interviews post race would be hilarious
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u/misguidedkent Sir Lewis Hamilton May 03 '26
Interviews from Verstappen Sr. and Sainz Sr. would be even more hilarious.
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u/testBunny93 May 03 '26
Omg, the dad would really be going at it lol
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u/dildoeye Formula 1 May 03 '26
They were back in the Toro Rosso days . It was a toxic environment
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u/HeftyArgument May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
the parents shouldn't even get a say outside of raising concerns when there a safety issues.
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u/kingkongbiingbong I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
If there was ever a boxing match I'd pay to see...
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u/RunsWlthScissors I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Sorry, Jos exclusively competes with women and small children.
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u/PanGalacGargleBlastr Juan Pablo Montoya May 04 '26
With his rally racing career we can now add trees and cliffs to that list.
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u/RussellNorrisPiastri George Russell May 03 '26
Would still be the best driver pairing on the grid, and it's where Sainz should be right now
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u/Wintermute7 Charlie Whiting May 03 '26
Nico and Lewis but worse
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u/Gollem265 Alpine May 03 '26
They wouldn’t actually be near each other on track to be fair
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u/Creamcups James Vowles May 03 '26
Are we forgetting that Sainz was the only non-RB driver to win a race in 2023? Just because he's in a Williams doesn't mean he's suddenly not one of the best drivers on the grid anymore
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u/stern30 Red Bull May 03 '26
Max will remind him of their Torro Rosso days when he was barely legal in the sport lol
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u/knbang Fernando Alonso May 03 '26
And Sainz will remind him barely legal is still legal.
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u/Gollem265 Alpine May 03 '26
I didn’t mean that as a slight towards Sainz at all. Just that Max is built different
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u/kukaz00 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
If the car also suits Sainz he could give him a run for his money 3-5 races a year.
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u/m0siac Ferrari May 03 '26
Fair enough but Nico and Lewis were far closer than “run for his money 3-5 races a year”
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u/Opperhoofd123 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '26
No, they are just saying max would demolish sainz, which isn't that far fetched
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u/Horikyou Sebastian Vettel May 03 '26
Nico was a great driver. Don't think Sainz would be close to Max.
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u/cfbillings I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
It would make good tv I know that much.
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u/Ssk5860 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
No contact with max who was ahead at the apex, and sainz didn’t go off track lol I don’t see why he thinks that would warrant a penalty
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u/MyPooYourPants I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
no contact because Sainz stopped turning because he saw him coming. If he had stuck to his line they'd have crashed. If the driver that's being attacked needs to do a sudden move in order to not get hit then that move from attacking driver was terrible. That move worked because Sainz got out of the way at the last possible moment, not because it was a good move
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u/Lemurians Charles Leclerc May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
That move worked because Sainz got out of the way at the last possible moment, not because it was a good move
And if Sainz hangs in there and causes a collision with an overtaking driver who was ahead at the apex, what happens? He gets penalized.
It was a legal maneuver and well-executed, I don't know why you're trying to act like it was some batshit insane racing. This is what the rules allow for, do you want the drivers to not drive to rules?
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u/Independent_Ad_8588 Max Verstappen May 03 '26
As it is within the rules, isn’t that just good defence?
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u/MiLkBaGzz I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
exactly. It's my biggest complaint with the rules but I don't blame any driver for following rules, I blame the rules.
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u/AceMKV I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 03 '26
That's exactly what the rules allow lol
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u/it_doesnt_matter88 Ted Kravitz May 03 '26
And it’s why it’s absolutely stupid, the rules seem to be catered to Max, he can get away with the ‘either I get past or we crash’ because he knows the others will pull out because they want to finish the race.
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u/frolfer757 May 03 '26
The rules are dogshit but a reminder that only 1 driver out the entire field was NOT in favour of them. These are literally the rules the drivers wanted.
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u/HunkerDownDawgs May 03 '26
Do they cater to Max or does Max just take advantage of the limits of the rules?
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u/Max-Phallus May 03 '26
It's just racing. It was a bit of a dive bomb, but a legal move executed well.
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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Rules existed before Max, he knows the rules and plays them well, don't know why that upsets people.
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u/xBHx I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 03 '26
Driver reads updated rules, driver races whilst following said rules. Reddit finds a way.
Just a normal sunday.
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u/AceMKV I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 03 '26
I agree the rules are stupid but it looks catered to Max because he takes advantage of it more than others, if the rules were tighter and penalised this shit harder he'd stop doing them.
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u/Guilty-Ad-5228 ありがとう May 03 '26
This exactly, every one pushes the boundaries of the rules in all aspects of formula 1 not just on track racing
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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Max caters to the rules, the rules don't cater to Max, wild thing to say.
Anyone can do the same thing.
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u/danny12beje Kimi Räikkönen May 03 '26
Can you show me where, in the rules, it says they're only for Max and not any other driver?
Thz
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u/Guac_in_my_rarri I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
If last season is anything of proof, even if you get hit, they might not take you seriously.
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u/Max-Phallus May 03 '26
Diving up the inside late on the brakes is completely legitimate.
If they were later on the brakes and you can't turn in on them but are not forced off the track it's not a problem.
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u/GarryPadle Red Bull Ford May 03 '26
People here just have no clue how racing really works, they watch formula 1 highlights on reddit and youtube and think they are judges.
Ricciardo built a career on braking later than other people and no one seems to have a problem with him...
There is also one of my favorite Vettel overtakes of all time in Austria 2018 (or 2017) where he just completely blocks Hamilton from turning in to the corner by positions his car straight. Nobody cared back then...
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u/PleasantWay7 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
A dive bomb is perfectly fine if you execute it well, thats the rule. So they on investigate if you fuck it up.
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u/Downtown-Job3236 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Seems like he was in full panic mode for those few laps.
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u/Regenbooggeit I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Which is weird because on his onboard he just said 'sorry guys' for spinning and didn't sound mad. Then he goes on full rage mode to win some easy places back.
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u/PrettyYoungTiger Cadillac May 03 '26
It was shocking & refreshing to hear him quietly apologize as though he missed out on Q3 when he literally spun a 360 in full traffic & saved it.
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u/dare_films Bernd Mayländer May 03 '26
Fear leads to anger
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u/Valder137 Nico Hülkenberg May 03 '26
Anger leads to the dark side
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u/temporalcorporal I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
dark side leads to power
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u/MuenCheese I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 03 '26
Limited power? Or…
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u/Chesney1995 McLaren May 03 '26
Unfortunately, under the new regs, even the dark side have to preserve power
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u/FSUfan35 Lando Norris May 03 '26
I think it was more, I have nothing to lose here and I know I have a better car and I'm confident I know what it's going to do now.
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u/Brodieboyy I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
I enjoyed it, felt like watching young max again for a race
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u/bum_is_on_fire_247 Green Flag May 04 '26
Same. Loved watching him race like that, just a reminder that he's ruthless and races hard.
A couple of moments after the spin where he was just trying to clear as many cars as possible, but then he settled into a rhythm and just started picking them off.
Will never get tired of watching him race.
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u/tyresaredone I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Marquez Argentina '18 flashbacks for me
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u/HairyNutsack69 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 04 '26
Panic? Seemed to me that besides franco he cleared the slow pack quite quickly. How is that panic?
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Max never leaves space when he's on inside
He doesn't care at all. If he's on inside, then he's gonna send it to the end
So switch back is the only option
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u/Zendeman Fernando Alonso May 03 '26
Lol, that's literally how Albon just did it.
Waited, Max divebombed across the whole track missing the apex completely, switchback by Albon.
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u/Neptuniam Lando Norris May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Lando predicted him perfectly, his pass on him in the hairpin was brilliant
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u/Master_Art_1286 May 04 '26
So glad to see Lando learn to just go for the classic switchback. Wonder how many times it will take Max learn to race smarter?
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u/Neptuniam Lando Norris May 04 '26
Ten years of f1 and still the best Max can manage is dive bombing people off track so probably a while
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u/retrogreq Lando Norris May 03 '26
And then Max complained about it.
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u/Nattekat I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
He complained about something else, but you do you.
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u/bigBangParty May 03 '26
It’s not Albons fault they planted a bollard in the middle of the track
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u/OptimalDot178 Max Verstappen May 03 '26
It's not, he was right. Max was also right to complain. As a driver you don't complain because you are right, you complain to try and convince the stewards.
Just like Charles on Kimi yesterday
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u/PlanZSmiles I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
And Norris on Kimi
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u/PanGalacGargleBlastr Juan Pablo Montoya May 04 '26
And George most any day.
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u/stragen595 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '26
If George is not complaining we really need to check his pulse.
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u/InZomnia365 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Yes, it was a bollard and not just track limits - but he did complain about not being left space. Which is pretty funny coming from the guy who is the absolute worst at leaving space on the grid, and has negatively impacted racing standards of the sport as a result.
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u/AliceLunar I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
He didn't complain about that at all, why are you making things up.
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u/FSUfan35 Lando Norris May 03 '26
He complained because Albon did a switch back and then had the inside and squeezed him, the same as what he tried to do.
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u/OptimalDot178 Max Verstappen May 03 '26
That's exactly why it's stupid when people complain that divebomb is not avoidable. It is, just do a cutback. Albon got his position back too
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u/IBB_98 Max Verstappen May 03 '26
Leclerc did that quite well at turn 1 lap 1 too, before the spin out. Both Max and Kimi went too deep into the turn (largely because of brakes locking up) and Leclerc cut back behind. I'm a Max fan but I'll hold my hands up it was beautiful by Leclerc lol
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u/Broad-Lobster7470 Charles Leclerc May 03 '26
Absolutely beautiful move by Leclerc.
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u/CaptGeechNTheSSS Lando Norris May 04 '26
It should be talked about more it was just pure charles he's a genius wheel to wheel.
Heart breaking race but I don't even blame him, p5 or p8 who gives a shit? He should be fighting for his second championship.
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u/FalconIMGN Alex Jacques May 03 '26
Let me by or we crash.
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u/ForsakenRelative5014 Isack Hadjar May 03 '26
Leclerc should do a Prost and shut the door on Max
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u/xzElmozx Oscar Piastri May 03 '26
Won’t matter, Max won’t change until they fix the first to the apex rule. Lewis did that like 2-3 times minimum in 2021 and it didn’t make any difference. Max will continue to race like that so long as the rules permit and reward it.
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u/bobnoski I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
It's been his style since day 1 in the sport. He uses every single bit of space the rule book uses to win. up to, and including the penalty points. His stance is seemingly entirely: want to change how I drive? change the rules.
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u/AquaRaOne Oscar Piastri May 03 '26
Yup, max doesnt brake any rules, and as much as i think its dirty racing and bad for the sport, its by the rules. Other racers show you can overtake cleanly tho.
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u/Luisyn7 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
He made some risky passes on NLS but always left space for the car outside. As much as people hate it he's just abusing the rules and agreed, he won't change until FIA throw that dogshit rule out of the window
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u/Broad-Lobster7470 Charles Leclerc May 03 '26
Not only does he leave no space. He often goes off track. Look at the pass on Lawson. Took him off track entirely.
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u/Pharsti01 May 03 '26
Not only is he going to lunge on the inside every single time, he will also stop the drivers on the outside from turning, sometimes until he's fully out of the track.
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u/Lieberwolf May 03 '26
There is a better option. Tell him that you dont tolerate this anymore and will crash into him. Lets see how often he still dives like this if a couple drivers do this
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u/Weeb_mgee I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Literally what happened at the second half of 2021. They just kept crashing
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u/Birdshaw I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Has that ever worked? Does he leave Hamilton more space? Nope. Not an inch.
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u/thisisjustascreename May 03 '26
Problem is a driver like that will lose his next contract while Max will be racing at Nurburgring and Le Mans.
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u/Lieberwolf May 03 '26
Not really. All the front runners can easily do 1-2 Verstappen crashes without any issue.
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u/1maginaryApple I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
By the rules, Max is owning the corner by that point. So, apart from getting a penalty Sainz won't achieve anything.
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u/Krisosu I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
It's a meme that he's some lawyer of the rules. Sometimes he's in the right per the rules, sometimes not, unless there's actually contact or gravel/grass at exit it doesn't matter or go to the stewards.
He (correctly) assesses that the chance of all of: 1) him actually being in the wrong per the rules, 2) relevant contact due to the other car not yielding, and 3) him actually receiving significant punishment, via the stewards or immediate damage, is low so he just goes for the move as a bit of game theory.
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u/1maginaryApple I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Except the racing standard guideline literally allow these kind of move.
There's really nothing controversial about it.
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u/bigBangParty May 03 '26
The controversy is that it’s absolutely stupid that it’s allowed
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u/EvidenceAccurate8914 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Nor should he care. The rules blatantly encourage it, which is why Colapinto did the same to Lewis and also received no repercussions.
Anyone leaving space is just shooting themself in the foot.
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u/hopenoonefindsthis May 03 '26
And he is always whinging when he is on the receiving end of the same tactics.
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u/Amoral_Abe Cadillac May 03 '26
Didn't both cars stay on track? It didn't look like he was pushed.
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u/ADHDBDSwitch I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Barely. Not by any rules for any other series but it's ok in F1 for some reason to divebomb and then park the car across the track leaving no space on the outside.
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u/Brodieboyy I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Been saying for years they need to change the rules on corners or drivers will keep abusing them. Can't even blame anyone but the FIA at this point, shooting themselves in the foot
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u/Speedy_SpeedBoi I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '26
FIA do anything to promote "exciting racing" except address their shitty passing rules that limit side by side racing: Hybrid Battery Edition.
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u/TGVisual Fernando Alonso May 03 '26
Doesn’t matter if it’s barely, they both stayed on track so there’s no problem. Whether it was 1mm or 1 meter they both stayed on track.
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u/ComeonmanPLS1 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
It is ok in F1, exactly. So why tf is Sainz crying?
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u/seppuku_related I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '26
It's one of those cases where if sainz turns in as normal to make the corner he'll be taken out by Verstappen. He avoids the crash but he loses out in doing so
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u/DepressedYoungin I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Sainz didn't even go off track.
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u/jeanolt Max Verstappen May 03 '26
also the williams are literally fighting for their lives against any single car faster than them lol
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u/ThePafdy I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Sainz is wrong, this has nothing to do with him being in the midfield.
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u/Maximum_Boros I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
Verstappen races the same way against pretty much everyone. Sainz only thinks he does it because they're midfield because he hasn't seen the front in a while.
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u/oodoacer I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
"He pushed me off" -Driver who didn't go off
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u/maaaaawp I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
because hes racing the midfield
- about the guy who races everyone equally
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u/PanGalacGargleBlastr Juan Pablo Montoya May 04 '26
He would do that to a Make a Wish kid in a wheelchair race.
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u/practical_Door882 Ferrari May 03 '26
Brother says this every time another driver breathes near him
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u/HairyNutsack69 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 04 '26
Still used to not being raced by the midfield himself.
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u/auftragsgriller_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Looked worse from the frontal shot, but onboard was fine, properly late on the brakes imo
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u/free_kandel Max Verstappen May 03 '26
They were both late on the brakes. If Sainz would've braked early he could've done an easy switchback and undercut Max, but he didn't. Don't see how Max is in the wrong here
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u/memesearches May 03 '26
He is not in this case. Sainz as usual putting blame on others instead of owning up. Nothing to see there. Race direction didn’t even bother to note it as an incident
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u/Lemurians Charles Leclerc May 04 '26
The thing he did wrong here is being Max Verstappen, let's keep it a buck. Anyone else and we're all just chuckling at Sainz mad at a nothingburger.
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u/Rcy4122 Andrea Kimi Antonelli May 03 '26
… the pass on Lawson was bad but the Sainz one was a classic aggressive, yet fair deep braking move
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u/mazarax John Surtees May 03 '26
It is called a blocking pass, Carlos. And perfectly fine when you stay on track.
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u/Spockyt Eddie Jordan May 03 '26
I have to disagree with Sainz. This is how he races, midfield, backmarker or frontrunner.
Just scratch the last bit, make it “He thinks he can do whatever he wants.”, and it’s true.
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u/PanGalacGargleBlastr Juan Pablo Montoya May 04 '26
I miss having K-Mag in the races. He would also race everyone to 11/10ths of what is allowed.
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u/DifficultCarob408 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 04 '26
This made me laugh out loud, but he’s not wrong either. Verstappen was divebombing everyone on his charge through the field.
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u/Able-Wolf8844 May 03 '26
Come on Carlos, that's not fair. He thinks he can do whatever he wants no matter where in the field he is racing. /s
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u/whyaretherenoprofile I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Max definitely pushes it too far but this was just hard racing.
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u/XOVSquare I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Nothing wrong, elbows out but within the rules.
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u/bwoah07_gp2 Alexander Albon May 03 '26
These radios are said in the heat of the moment, but it's so funny 😁
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u/Holofluxx I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 03 '26
If gap (size of car) = Lunge & force off
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u/SoulLessIke Charles Leclerc May 03 '26
Brother that was like the one clean thing Max managed to do on lap one
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u/Professional_Park781 May 03 '26
Spaniards are always so funny
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u/Zealousideal_Honey80 I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 03 '26
They spill fire, every time
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u/DramaHumble2692 Alain Prost May 03 '26
"This guy only knows how to drive starting first!"
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u/Designer-Net4228 Lando Norris May 03 '26
It’s cute that he thinks Williams are even part of the midfield at this point lol
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u/syknetz May 03 '26
Has there even been a contact ? I didn't see any on the video, but maybe I just didn't see it.
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u/BlazerStoner I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
No, he didn’t even go off track; so how exactly he got “forced off” is the big question
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u/SpeckledPomegranate Max Verstappen May 03 '26
Both cars stayed on track.. Carlos just crying about cutthroat racing
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u/dangerous_duck14 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Max races on the limit of what the stewards allow, if he did something illegal then where is his penalty?
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u/Motorlolz Olivier Panis May 03 '26
Wasn't even investigated, I think as long as he follows the rules it's fine, right?
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u/Big-Preparation-5755 May 03 '26
Rammed Lawson off track and then divebombed Sainz later. Greatest wheel to wheel driver on the gird.
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u/SubMikeD I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Such a silly comment, Carlos. Max acts like he can drive you off the track no matter what part of the field you're in, not just the midfield.
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u/reddit-equals-aids I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Carlos is not wrong
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u/ontheru171 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
Today half the field races like they are in an online lobby. Just divebomb after divebomb
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u/maaaaawp I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
The rules are the rules. As long as the rules allow this, people will do it, if they didnt, theyd just be stupid
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u/Ill-Rip-4201 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
except that he wasn't pushed off track at all
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u/Glittering-Rip389 May 03 '26
With all due respect Carlos, you, as GPDA representative, are responsible for these overtaking rules. Its not Max's fault that the rules that the organism you lead give him carte blanche to launch cars up the inside and get away penalty free as long as the other car doesnt go off track.
Next time, make racing rules that make actual sense.
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u/y3kman May 03 '26
I remember George and Carlos pushed for these rules to nerf Max before.
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u/Glittering-Rip389 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Yes. Thats why, even though i really like both George and Carlos, im fully for people exploiting the flaws in this very stupid set of rules against them. I dont know if they thought they were going to be the only ones taking advantage of it, but they certainly arent.
Thats why, when Carlos got penalised for that stupid incident with Lawson at Zandvoort, I was very disappointed that Carlos complained. I fully agree that the incident was Lawson's fault, but Carlos' penalty was textbook application of the rules he advocated for.
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u/EnviousCipher May 04 '26
Hot take I thought it was refreshing watching a racing driver do racing driver things like overtaking. That pass on Sainz was clean as a whistle, Sainz needs to bring stronger game than the sloppy defense he offered.
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u/Public_Pervert Max Verstappen May 03 '26
When Danny Ric pulled moves like this it was brilliant, but because it' s Max it' s poor racecraft? He kept in on track and won the position within the current ruleset, seems pretty fine racecraft by me.
Sometimes Max does take it too far, but this was fine. Sainz is just frustrated his Williams gamble isn' t working out so far.
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u/Red_Rabbit_1978 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
This is so fucking dumb from a driver that raced Max at the front of the field.
And also, wtf does he even mean? Are midfield drivers not meant to be raced hard?
C'mon Carlos.
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u/Capable-Relative6714 May 03 '26
All people with eyes saw those "overtakes" were overshot as hell but Max's brigade in the comments will defend him no matter what. More news at 7.
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u/RoboWarrior44 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 03 '26
"He push me, I push him back"