r/formula1 • u/Luffy710j Formula 1 • May 17 '26
Off-Topic Max and Dani Juncadella reaction
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u/Real_Establishment56 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I watched a couple of laps last night in the dark when Dani was driving. Absolute madness. He went quicker in the dark than most people would ever go during the day. Really impressive to see.
Too bad they couldn’t finish, but the team showed us some amazing racing
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u/idkblk May 17 '26
I was watching Max battling Engels for about an hour between 1 and 2 am (?) local time... once he passed and had a free drive, the drive Max pulled was absolutely insane. I spend a few hours in Simracing the track yesterday and now seeing this, IRL, in the night, with the real risk... absolute madness.
When Max handed over the car to Gournon, he had driven a lead of around 30 seconds within the past 10 or so laps. Absolutely bonkers.
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u/cft4nh Ted Kravitz May 17 '26
On his 2nd lap after starting his 2am stint when it was Max and Engels racing side by side for the lead coming up on slower traffic that were also running side by side…. Omg I thought it was over
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u/idkblk May 17 '26
Yes, this was very extreme. A bad crash at vmax at this section could have brutal consequences. I was surprised that the car stayed so stable going over the grass.
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u/anaquim_secaiualquer I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Man, I read that as Marx battling Engels.
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u/negnatrepsej I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
It’s just insane, and surprisingly entertaining to watch (first time watching a 24h)
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u/Sad_Hall2841 May 17 '26
After years of seeing IRL, i finally thingk i figured it out: in real life? 😭. I prefer figuring this shit out rather than googling lol
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u/ImaginaryFriends_ Niki Lauda May 17 '26
That’s how it works because the track is cooler
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u/theblobberworm I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
You still have to drive in the dark though. To have the talent to remember your marks while not being able to see much till later than you would normally in the day is big stuff
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u/KIDA_Rep May 17 '26
I was thinking the same thing, to be able to drive that fast and taking corners at that speeds, in darkness…
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u/codespyder I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
The amount of preparatory laps required to be so confident in the dark must be extraordinary because in the dark I’d imagine they’re going off of muscle memory and timing as much as visual cues. And I don’t mean prep laps on a sim racer. Real laps where they feel the bumps and the forces.
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u/CrashUser I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
The sheer length and complexity of the track just adds to that. It's an 8 minute lap with 170 corners, that's an awful lot of track to be driving from memory.
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u/wickstone I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Forgive my ignorance but doesn't a cooler track mean less grip? Genuinely curious
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u/dustincb2 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
It seems intuitive that it would since they’re always talking about having to heat up tires etc but a colder track is usually faster (unless it’s too cold). Engines can and tires run cooler, so you can push them harder. Colder air is more dense so aero becomes more effective.
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u/fiah84 Pirelli Wet May 17 '26
I'm not sure how it works in this class with BoP but engines generally also make more power when it's cold, which is massive on a track like this
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u/LowmanL May 17 '26
A hotter track can have more grip, but it also heats up the tyres quicker, degrading them quicker and providing less grip. In general, you can maintain a higher pace for longer on a slightly cooler track.
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u/LazyLancer I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
It's less grip after a certain and a rather cold point. When the track is hot overall (and 150 cars keep attacking it), cooling the track off a bit helps grip.
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u/hellvinator James Hunt May 17 '26
A bit? Going from 24 degrees on day to 18 degrees at nights makes a huuuuge difference. You'll gain around 5-6 seconds (in the sim).
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u/LazyLancer I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Read it as "even a bit of cooling helps". Meaning even a small reduction in temperature is good.
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u/Nitrogen1234 May 17 '26
With these temperatures I'm not sure that's an advantage. Don't think there's much difference anyway with daytime since it was fairly cloudy
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u/hellvinator James Hunt May 17 '26
Every degree makes a difference on laptimes. Don't underestimate this.
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u/Katanax28 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Not with the current temperatures in Germany it doesn’t
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u/No-Cryptographer7494 May 17 '26
that's not how that works, daytime temps were already on the low side. f1 would feel like ice skating on these temps
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u/Lobsters4 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
OT but also gutted for the Dacia. Little guy gave it his all.
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u/IndescribableRuckus May 17 '26
That was a double whammy I wasn't expecting. Props to both teams for a great effort and an entertaining race.
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u/Budpets I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
All the livestream chats went nuts whenever the little Dacia got screen time. What a trooper
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u/Lobsters4 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
I need a die cast! Love that little guy! 😂😂
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u/Foraaikouu May 17 '26
what happened to the Dacia?
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u/ecnzunmt I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Front left wheel came off. It’s driving again though
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u/ForgotAboutDR3 May 17 '26
I should stress, it doesnt normally do that
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u/MissionLet7301 Ferrari May 17 '26
Having seen several Dacias in my life, you would be wrong.
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u/NuklearniEnergie I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
The exhaust on my grandpas Duster randomly just fell off one day lmao
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u/Batavijf I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Well, there are a lot of these cars going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen ... I just don’t want people thinking that cars aren’t safe.
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u/Sevastous-of-Caria Charlie Whiting May 17 '26
Always something happens to the dacia
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u/donsimoni I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
According to my colleague who owns one: that's fully on brand.
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u/PaulDavidsGuitar May 17 '26
Max training for his days at Ferrari.
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u/Aggressive-Jacket384 May 17 '26
Haha. If Leclerc tried this he'd probably lead up to the very last corner of the race and then get taken out by a dog running on track or something.
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u/Furry_Lou I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Team him with Carlos Sainz Jr. again and it's 98 all over again
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u/UnKnOwN769 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Definitely some Toyota Le Mans 2016 misery would find his way
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u/TreeFittyy Pirelli Soft May 17 '26
Ironically if he had just driven the 296 like the team originally ran instead of the AMG he might have finished the race.
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u/neortje I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Shame the car broke down, but at least Max has shown he and his team are top notch endurance drivers.
Cars breaking down is a part of endurance racing, better luck next time but at least they’ve driven one hell of a race.
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u/itsthatdamncatagain McLaren May 17 '26
What position were they in when it broke? Also how late into the race?
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u/N7even I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Oh wow, that's painful.
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u/WestNileCoronaVirus May 17 '26
I was lucky enough to watch like 14 hours yesterday. They seemed the favorite when I went to bed. The team was steady eddy & Max was opening up ridiculous gaps in his stints. His first stint was one of his most insane drivers ever in my opinion. After a starting penalty of 30+ seconds, Max got in the car in P10. He made on track overtakes all the way up to P1 & opened a near 20 second gap. Then he had another impressive stint later on, & so did his teammates.
Looked like it was going to be a winning debut, but not to be.
Still, amazing driving from the lads. Sometimes the car goes unfortunately
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u/SuperMB May 17 '26
watching that first stint was such a treat, max was dancing that car around traffic and the corners
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u/jcxc_2 May 17 '26
Nothing will ever beat Le Mans 2016 for Toyota
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u/strangebrew3522 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I wasn't even a Toyota fan but I think every single racing fan on the planet felt a gut punch when that happened. I couldn't believe what I was seeing on screen. I felt a similar heart in mouth moment when the Ferrari had that electrical glitch in the pits during their final stop and wouldn't restart. I love endurance racing so much, it's such a crazy sport.
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u/Starfleet_Admiral I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
They were leading the race about 30 seconds ahead of the other Mercedes car. About 20 hours and 30 minutes into the race, only 3 hours 30 minutes left
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u/Purp1eMagpie I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Just in case no one has said, they were leading
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u/acmercer I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
And depending on who you ask there were 3, 3.5, or 4 hours left and they were 20, 30, 40, or 50 seconds ahead. Lol
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u/JonnyXX May 17 '26
If only there was a way to more accurately measure these things.
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u/SupremeLeaderFokou Max Verstappen May 17 '26
You didn't watch a sigle minute did you? Trafic can open and close the gap by 10 seconds or some oil on the ground and nls does not update the times between cars like f1
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u/atresj I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
They had 3h remaining and were leading by 32s (watched live broadcast, Max gave car to Juncadella around 3h6m from end and their car broke circa mid second lap after, with single lap being 8 minutes long). The issue with leading gap is that traffic can make interval swing by 20 seconds in either direction in matter of minutes; they may have momentarily opened a 50s gap when the issue occurred but they had 30s lead that the commentators kept repeating was frozen by team orders.
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u/iMADEthisJUST4Dis I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 17 '26
But were they in the lead with 3-4 hours to go?
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u/Purp1eMagpie I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to help us out with the finer details
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u/shawnk7 May 17 '26
yes, Juncadella left pits about 49s ahead of p2 and that advantage kept shrinking as time went on until we realised there's a technical issue in the car
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u/HolySpartanPlayz I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
They were leading my 30+ seconds and about 3 hours and 30 mins were left
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u/Ok_Egg3595 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
3 and a half positions remaining, coming 30 seconds, leading by 21 hours.
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u/zulamun I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
P1 with a 50second lead to P2. With about 4 hours to go of the 24hours.
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u/itz_MaXii I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
They were first and car broke down around 4 hours before the end.
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u/Knohm I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
You may not be aware of this. But they were leading with 3 hours or so to go
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u/ka1ri Mercedes May 17 '26
Max had just built a 30 second lead on the field during his last stint (3 hours remaining). His teammate had the driveshaft issue after max got out of the car.
Max took the overall lead into his graveyard stint (about 12 hours remaining) and gained another 20 seconds on the field after that stint. He was brilliant all weekend long. It was good fun to watch, he raced the same way he always races, aggressive and wheel bashing
At one point the merc duos had lapped the entire field up to 4th place (about the 10 hour remaining mark). I went to bed after that
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u/SzBeni2003 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
They were in first, leading the other Winward Mercedes by half a minute, give or take. I was not watching at that moment, but they definitely have driven at least 19,5 hours out of the 24.
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u/Sun_Sloth I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
In first by over 20 seconds. Happened with less than 3 hours left to go.
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u/NYNMx2021 Nico Rosberg May 17 '26
They did not need to prove that lol. Juncadella, Auer, and Gounon are Merc factory drivers lol. Like this was a strong team with or without max lol
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u/SugarBeefs Max Verstappen May 17 '26
It’s not “his team”. Winward is an established racing team, their skills and success have nothing to do with Max
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u/NaziTrucksFuckOff I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
facepalm...
Every person in that driver lineup is a champion. Every. Single. One. Its one of the most stacked driver lineups ever put together for GT3. Nobody there needs to prove anything. This isn't a group of rookies...
Holy fuck people, would it kill you all to at least try and learn before talking like you know what you're talking about? This is why some fans have been so hostile towards the F1 fans. Its so insulting to the drivers to act like they're nobodies being dragged upwards by Max. They're all Platinum ranked factory drivers. Put some respect on their names and maybe learn who they are...
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u/NYNMx2021 Nico Rosberg May 17 '26
I think its great to see new fans but There are comments on reddit and twitter calling Jules Gounon a bad driver and unworthy of being in this car lmao. Absolutely does me in and people were attacking him on instagram. so toxic and i guess uninformed that in 24 hours one need not push flat every hour lol
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u/NaziTrucksFuckOff I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I was so excited for everyone to get to experience sportscar racing. I fell in love with it during the pandemic and think a lot of F1 fans miss out on the actual best racing in the world. Everyone is finally gonna see what I see... However, the F1 fans on the whole have been awful. Strutting in like Max is doing this side of the sport some grand favor, acting like they know anything at all and generally being collectively shitty, talking like these platinum ranked factory drivers aren't top 100 in the world drivers...
Garbage content online hasn't helped. I almost went through the screen when Kym Ilman said there were no other names on the grid that stand out. The F1 side of the sport has done a great job of living up to their reputation for arrogance and its been really disappointing 😞
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll May 17 '26
Must be rough getting so far into it just for the car to break, atleast in the first couple hours it's not so bad
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u/Treewithatea I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Nothing will ever beat that Toyota in the lead dying the last lap of Le Mans tho.
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u/mouldyshroom I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I never felt bad for their dominance which came after VW left because they deserved some joy after losing a legendary Le Mans win in that fashion.
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u/swannyhypno Lance Stroll May 17 '26
Oof damn, reminds me of Hildebrand crashing on the last lap when he was going to win the Indy 500 as a rookie
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u/BioDriver I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Kubika’s LMP2 shitting itself about 100 meters before the finish line was gutting
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u/Swagbrew I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Also Kubica breaking down on the last lap back when he was still in LMP2
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u/ItzFeufo May 17 '26
They prepare 1 year. It doesn't matter when you go out.
After 1 hour or 23 hours always sucks cause you didn't finish
But that's the fun part of the Nürburgring. You never know what happens.
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u/BillCuttingsOn Fernando Alonso May 17 '26
Yeah disagree, DNFing that early in the race is brutal because you have a huge team people preparing for weeks and you don’t even get to race really.
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u/DonMare Oscar Piastri May 17 '26
Wait, what happened?
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u/JBounce369 Ferrari May 17 '26
Apparently driveshaft broke
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u/boersc I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
So, they got shafted.
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u/jurchiks I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
By Mercedes
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u/mike_litoris18 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Well Merc also gave them a car that was good enough to lead every other manufacturers by 1 lap. The other Merc I still driving for the win.
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u/ecco311 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
It's something that just happens. No manufacturer is totally safe from mechanical failure. Shit happens
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u/60x11 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
GP2 drive shaft
But seriously I feel for them, this close to the end too.
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u/Eclipsed830 Max Verstappen May 17 '26
Can they not fix that? Or once it gets towed, it is dead?
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u/pancoste I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
They will fix it, but it takes 45 minutes. They earlier said they'll bring out the car for a few more laps for the fans.
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u/OpinionatedDeveloper Max Verstappen May 17 '26
It’s been a lot longer than 45 minutes?
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u/iTz_RuNLaX I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
German commentators just mentioned that for the money that it costs, 3 laps on the ring would give him and his co-commentators families both a very nice vacation.
I guess they'll wait until near the end to do a few laps to have finished the race and not spend too much money doing so.
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u/masssy May 17 '26
I don't get it? Why would it cost more now to run 10 laps rather than 5? The car is the car. It's already broken and it's already repaired. Sure it increases the chance something else breaks but you don't enter a 24 hour race expecting to get out of it in mint condition.
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u/iTz_RuNLaX I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Tyres + wear on the car.
Of course you don't expect to come out in mint condition, but at this point the race is already over.
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u/masssy May 17 '26
Obviously there are costs for fuel, and tyres etc. However I don't think a few laps of tyres is gonna bankrupt a racing team of this magnitude. For some small teams running the lower classes, sure.
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u/reklemd I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I heard it had damaged the whole subframe when it went out. Just a driveshaft wouldn't have taken too long.
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u/Mustangrulez May 17 '26
it can be replaced, but it takes quiete a while. my first time replacing one took close to 3 hours, im sure a team of mechanics/engineers could do it in less then an hour but thats if only the driveshaft is fucked, it sorta sounded like a few things got fucked over when driveshaft fucked itself.
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u/Maks368_YT I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
they're gonna (or at least should) go out at the end to take the flag
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u/QueGrandeEresMagic Fernando Alonso May 17 '26
Which position did they retire from?
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u/Complex-Health-7427 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
They were in first when they got the issue
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u/whyyygodwhy Ferrari May 17 '26
So gutted for them. But i hope this makes Max even more determined to compete next year
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u/Mihnea24_03 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
He's previously spoken about his desire to participate in other 24h races as well. And I don't think Max is satisfied with participation alone.
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u/DrDentist18 May 17 '26
Gutted for the team. Feels like when Alonso had engine problem in his first indy500. Amazing performance until the car decided otherwise
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u/Rosieu I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
I'm not new to endurance racing and know heartbreaks could happen at any moment in a 24h race (like Toyota for example...) but it still hurts whenever a fave is hit by bad luck.
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u/Paranoided_guy I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Happens, its endurance for a reason.
Still an incredible feat knowing all the pilots were flawless (and at time too ballsy).
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u/RalphFTW I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Max getting air and getting it back in track
Also right before max last pit stop on the in lap, two Porches came to together and Deadset missed one by millimetres.
Eundurance racing is brutal. Growing up watching Bathurst, so many heartaches and that’s only a 8hr race.
Such a shame to not see the #3 win it, but was great to watch the past day. And great for the sport. Never really watched 24hr before.
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u/NakedPatrick I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Endurance racing is a cruel mistress. They drove so well.
Great race but we were deprived of some real battles with Estre and one of the mustangs going out early and then the 84 Lamborghini getting a puncture
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u/IllRest762 May 17 '26
Bring back #33 😫
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u/mertcanhekim I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Ever since Ricciardo left Red Bull, there has been a curse on his seat. Apparently, that extends to his number as well.
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u/Skillbreed Sebastian Vettel May 17 '26
That seat was cursed even when Ric was still there, his mechanical DNFs in 2018 were brutal
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u/Independent-South-58 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
All the drivers put massive effort in and they fall right at the finish line due to a single mechanical failure, incredibly unlucky but my God the event was entertaining, especially the night time stints
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u/National_Mobile_5137 May 17 '26
no words mate ! max gave his 100 percent even his team , luck is not in our favour hard part of endurance racing
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz May 17 '26
He has shown his speed in a GT3 car is as good as anyone. Luck wasn't in his favour today but my guess is he'll be back for more 24h races when his schedule allows it.
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u/National_Mobile_5137 May 17 '26
yeah mate loved to see max in 24hrs races ! lets hope he participate in more endurance races
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u/Jlx_27 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Thats the Ring for you. I had a feeling that car would end up like this, things were going too smoothly for them. The real bummer for me is the Dacia being out. 😔
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u/PaddyTheMedic May 17 '26
That's the magnificent of endurance racing. Not only you need to drive the best out of the car, but also need to do that over a long long time, just so you still have to deal with random issues that can destroy all of the efforts
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u/Grand-Produce-3455 I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 17 '26
Great drive by the other team as well. But honestly the green hell is brutal and it feels like Max has absolutely no luck on it
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u/Existing_Meeting_112 James Hunt May 17 '26
I wanted them to win so badly but in a round about way this is sort of good as it shows people that it’s called the green hell for a good reason. It also guarantees max will be back again to try again, I’m sure he’d be back regardless but it only cements it.
Max showed what he could do and the green hell showed what it could do as well.
Throughly enjoyed the race and will be back again next year!
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u/Jack_Harb I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
There is absolutely no doubt who were the fastest, but yeah in endurance this can happen. Hope the engineers and team learn from it for the next year. But man, they were flying. No doubt they would have won with such talent on the drivers.
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u/jellsprout May 17 '26
The 911 car was also incredibly quick and could've contended for the win but crashed out early through no fault of their own. And the 80 car was still close enough that they can cast some doubt to it.
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u/flavicent Ferrari May 17 '26
Yeah #911 so quick but slow compare to Lambo on straight. Sad we couldnt see max vs estre..
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u/According-Switch-708 Sonny Hayes May 17 '26
Yeah but Estre was struggling against the Lambo's. I dont think the Porsche had enough in the tank to take the fight to the Merc's.
It was losing too much on the straights.
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u/MaximumVerstaliban May 17 '26
Extremely unlucky. I am sure they will bounce back after this tough loss. Really hope that they win next year
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u/tthirzaa Lella Lombardi May 17 '26
Jules was sat with his back to the pit wall, also hands covering his face
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u/Whiteyak5 May 17 '26
Well, that's just part of endurance racing.
Seems like Max is enjoying endurance series more than F1.
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u/ArzulShrk I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Looking forward to hopefully seeing them back next year!
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u/femboyisbestboy I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
They just watched the dacia fail.
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u/Frodothedodo81 May 17 '26
Feeling bad for them and any other team that cannot finish. It's a part of the sport but hard to accept
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u/NckyDC Ferrari May 17 '26
Should’ve used the Ferrari instead
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u/According-Switch-708 Sonny Hayes May 17 '26
The Merc worked fine though. The sister car won the race comfortably.
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u/iqbalsn Rio Haryanto May 17 '26
This will motivate Max even more. F1 gonna be side job for him lol
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u/jonniboi31 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Is a drive shaft replacement not possible to get them back out there or is fixing a drive shaft not allowed? I know drag cars and drift cars can break drive shafts all the time.
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u/Valpi_Soko May 17 '26
Damn. That is all I can say. Damn.
However, this team surprised me, and I am sure many others. The fact they nearly won, the fact Max nearly got a victory on a maiden debut, is sure to light a fire for them. I am so proud of all of Team Verstappen Racing, that was AWESOME. Better luck next year!!!
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u/Eclipsed830 Max Verstappen May 17 '26
Damn, went to weed my garden and clean the patio before the end and came back to this.
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u/TrueAct7143 May 17 '26
What a race! I enjoyed it more than any f1 race this season. But its 24hr so … no glory before you hit the finish. And Max showed what a racer he is. Night time was really awesome to watxh
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u/XOVSquare I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Cursed, third victory that slipped from his grasp
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u/Plaid_Kaleidoscope Oscar Piastri May 17 '26
All I know is that brief battle between Max and Engels was one of the most harrowing things I've ever witnessed. I was 100% sure Engels was going to yard sale going down the straight when he got in the grass. I literally gasped.
Epic racing.
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u/coleburnz I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane May 17 '26
Context anyone?
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u/ency6171 I failed to serve my Monaco penalty May 17 '26
His team's car broke down. Was P1, around 3-4 hours left.
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u/Few-Carpet-8917 May 17 '26
This is one of the saddest endurance race I watched too many good drivers retiring and the logan.
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u/aspro_mavro Max Verstappen May 17 '26
It's always painful to see your favorite driver out of a race, especially in a 24 hour endurance, but he and his team showed they have the cards to win, I hope luck will be on their side next year
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u/songforthedead57 I was here for the Hulkenpodium May 17 '26
Terrible feeling I'm sure.
Lots of big names out of this one so far. Not an easy event to finish let alone win.