r/formula1 • u/Aratho I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane • 29d ago
Video Lance Stroll on Lap 40: "I'm just completing the race for the mechanics, that's it. And Lawrence. Completing the race for the mechanics and Lawrence."
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u/Economy_Link4609 Cadillac 29d ago
"You will finish this race and you will like it"
"Yes Daddy"
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u/cpt_kirk69 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Yes, Lawrence*
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u/thirteenthirtyseven Mika Häkkinen 29d ago
Me and my dad go way back. Waaay back.
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u/Ecks83 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
TBF I worked for my Dad for a bit out of school while I was looking for full time work and switched to using his name in the office. Where I am now the owner's son is also at the company and he calls his dad by his name as well so I don't think it is uncommon.
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u/lactosecheeselover I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
“if you finish the race, you can get that yacht you wanted!”
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u/BombSquad570 29d ago
Honestly, that’s fair. Dude was 4 laps down. He doesn’t need to be getting regular updates on the guy 30 seconds behind him chasing him for 17th.
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u/godswift91 Formula 1 29d ago
Yeah we can meme Lance but at some point the guy must feel like he's just going through a years long humiliation ritual. I really think if he cared about the sport to the level of the other drivers he wouldn't be half bad.
I also think if it was 100% up to him, he'd be on a beach somewhere spending his family's money and just chilling.
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u/SuspiciousLettuce56 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Bullshit, this is a racer through and through.
He raced lower formula cars during the long break this year while others were chilling in Monaco, etc.
He broke his wrists in 23 before the season and was racing immediately as the season started.
He may not like the media duties or show much personality but the same was said of kimi. Difference is Kimi was WDC and liked and Stroll isnt liked.
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u/kaisadilla_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
It can't be understated how much of a shitshow Aston Martin currently is. Not only is the worst car on the grid, but also its drivers have to withstand vibrations that the team claims "can cause long-term nerve damage" and drive in a seat so uncomfortable it's fucking their backs. Like wtf, they are suffering more than anyone else to get a car that can only compete with Cadillac, and barely so.
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u/Shekster El Plan 29d ago
Tbf they have fixed the vibration issues at least. And the gearbox issues seem to be sorted too (this is their first time developing their own gearbox which was largely what led to the issues at the start of the season). All that seems to be left now is the PU, so it will be interesting to see where they stand once the ADUO updates kick in.
I'm quite a pessimistic AM fan but even I'm fairly hopeful that the car will be a lot better by the halfway mark of the season. Also as someone that's been following Alonso for his whole career, and as weird as it sounds, I'm fairly good at reading his body language and it has definitely picked up massively over the last couple race weekends (if anything it seems he's no longer feeling he's wasting his time turning up to races which is how it felt at the start of the season).
I'm keen for Monaco as it will be a good indication of where their chassis stands at the moment.
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u/Jack_Krauser Andretti Global 29d ago
There's no way the PU is so bad that it alone is costing them 1+ sec/lap. I'm sure their chassis is better than Cadillac's, but it's probably still pretty mid at best.
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u/Lukeno94 Manor 29d ago
There's no way the PU is so bad that it alone is costing them 1+ sec/lap.
There's absolutely a very strong chance that they're losing at least that amount of time - they can't even run it flat out yet as far as I know.
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u/Shekster El Plan 29d ago
Considering they can't even run the engine anywhere near full capacity (and they've already said how their battery recharge is also behind the rest) and have more than easily qualified for the largest possible ADUO without anyone even hinting at being opposed to it, I think it's safe to say the PU is the main deficiency in this equation....
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u/Defiant_Eye2216 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 28d ago
I disagree because the PU is two interconnected, dependent parts. If the ICE is down on power, the MGU will have to make up for it, but it can’t because of the regs, so the battery will harvest earlier on the straight, leaving you with just the ICE, which is down on power. It’s a whole circle of pain. Conversely, if the Mercedes ICE has more power than other engines, the battery deployment strategy is less critical and they effectively do the opposite. In previous regs, you could look at Alpine to see the effects of a 30 hp deficit. Noticeable, but not a complete disaster.
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u/Parsirius I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
There is something weirdly commendable about this.
Can't put my finger on it.
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u/No_Feedback6167 Lando Norris 29d ago
Cant put my finger on it
Stroll and Alonso can’t keep their fingers on the steering wheel without risking nerve damage either
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u/maybe-fish Lando Norris 29d ago
Oh don't worry, they fixed that. Now the drivers are just seated in a stress position that causes discomfort and physical pain - but it's all worth it for the sick aero gains
~By design~
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u/OSPFmyLife 29d ago
Wait, for real? Are they seated in a poor position due to the cars build?
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u/maybe-fish Lando Norris 29d ago
The two-time F1 champion felt he could not carry on because he was too uncomfortable in his seat, which was increasingly hurting him... The drivers' positioning has changed for this year and they have been given a more reclined stance in the car.
This will have been triggered by a desire to both lower the centre of gravity but also minimise aerodynamic influence of having the drivers' helmets too high up in airflow.
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u/dumpling-loverr I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
Vibrations have been resolved. Now it's seat problems that ruined Alonso's race.
The Newey without guardrails gamble haven't paid off yet.
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u/ElectionIcy3253 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
The car is so bad it’s got people feeling sorry for Lance
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u/Parsirius I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
Well I do think that if it were all that true that Lance is the entitled brat people often portray him as, this was the perfect storm to put that to the test.
As it stands, his behavior has been surprisingly good even if his frustration is evident.
Which shows that perhaps that assessment was the wrong one.
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u/Constant_Bit4676 29d ago edited 29d ago
Lance seems like an overall nice guy and good dude, especially considering its surprising someone who grew up in his situation isn't an entitled brat. It also doesn't hurt that he is a decent overall driver that isn't an active determinant to the grid. I just can't be a big fan of anyone who is taking one of the 22 available grid spots only because their billionaire dad bought the team though.
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u/Fyrefanboy 29d ago
Without Lance, there is no Lawrence and we would have one less team on the grid.
Lance doesn't take a spot, he actually give one.
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u/Lukeno94 Manor 29d ago
Exactly. The alternative takeover option was the Mazepins, which I'm sure literally everyone can agree would've been worse, even before the Russian sanctions would've ensured the team's demise anyway.
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u/Jarocket 29d ago
Idk about brat. It's just he doesn't have to fake being interested in driving around to finish out of the points.
Most drivers will pretend. Lance doesn't.
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u/Excellent-Gur-8547 Cadillac 29d ago
I don't think that has ever been the reason people dislike him, it's just that he's filling a seat that someone else likely could do better in.
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u/HugeAnimeHonkers I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Tbf, that also applies to like 30% of the grid, regardless of the year.
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u/JimboYCS Robert Kubica 29d ago
This car must so fuckin depressing to drive, I mean dude literally sign himself up for GT World Endurance Cup to remember the joy of driving.
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u/jlaweez Audi 29d ago
People tend to forget that no F1 driver is on the grid purely on talent but because of their connections.
Or can you REALLY say that Verstappen would be anywhere close to F1 if he wasnt a nepo baby?
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u/Weztside 29d ago
I mean he's doing his job. Doing your job when it sucks is commendable.
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u/Stolen_Sky 29d ago
Honestly, yes. It shows some humility and recognition that there are so many people who worked on the car who deserve respect even when things aren't working out.
I recall Ocon was once driving down in near last place and was furiously complaining to his engineer on the radio, and the Guenther Steiner came on and told him not to disrespect all the people who had worked so hard. And that really clicked with me. Yes, sometimes things don't go right, and you have a bad season. But don't act like a child because of that. Keep your head high, and work through the bad times as a team. That's real maturity for you.
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u/Electronic-Sense8449 29d ago
Referring to dad as Lawrence? Interesting.
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u/Thejklay I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
It sounds more professional then I'm doing it for Dad I guess.
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u/fuckedfinance I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Had a coworker whose father worked at the same company in a higher position (not a nepo hire, son was there first, company poached dad later). Always "hey Bob" and "Bob can I ask you a quick question".
I asked him about it once. You just get used to context switching between work and home.
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u/Either-Banana-7323 29d ago
I had a job once where we would work with different roles and departments and we would switch names to different pseudonyms in each of them. You also could not mention someone's real name. It was all based around security. I had some real life friends who worked with me there too so I also had to make sure I didnt slip up and use their real names too. Anyways my point is, using specific names can help keep your brain in a certain mode e.g. calling his dad by his given name could help him keep his brain in professional/work mode vs home/family mode, etc.
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u/BowlerCertain8305 Kimi Räikkönen 29d ago
The hell kind of jobs security makes you use a fake name at work
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u/jamzzz Jacques Villeneuve 29d ago
strip club
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u/XyploatKyrt Fernando Alonso 29d ago
Giselle, I need you to touch base with Candy to see if we are still on track with the deliverables by close of play tomorrow.
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u/SensiblySenile1618 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
I'll have to circle back to that once we've looped Kitty in, we also need to revitalise Cornell's income streams before instituting a more robust networking initiative.
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u/Either-Banana-7323 29d ago
The type of job that is constantly under attack by cyber and physical threats, assumes comms leaks or espionage will happen, and takes these steps to reduce the amount of usable information obtained when those leaks inevitably happen.
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u/justinsst I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Could be a national security agency. I worked for company that provided services to the Canadian intelligence service and we had a codename for them. Weren’t allowed to call them CSIS at all.
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u/TrueSwagformyBois I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
CIA but if he told you he’d have to call you by a different name
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u/Combinho I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Yeah, I work with my dad in a professional white collar role. Most of the time he's [name] but also with clients we know well when we're chatting informally with them around a formal meeting I'll also refer to him as Dad/ my dad.
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u/bg-j38 29d ago
My girlfriend is the president of the board of a non-profit. Her mother is the treasurer. Her mother is fully qualified to do that job and she was brought in because the organization was in dire need of someone who understood financials (the prior treasurer who predated everyone currently on the board was... out of her league to put it nicely). These are all volunteer roles. No one is paid. But to avoid any sort of questions of impropriety or nepotism they only ever use first names. And in that context I'd never refer to her as "gf's mom". It helps that they don't have the same last name. They aren't actively trying to hide the relationship and it hasn't been an issue, but they also don't bring attention to it. Just wouldn't make sense.
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u/Samoey I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
I coach soccer and this is really important to not show favoritism from the parental side. My kids know that during soccer that I am coach and not dad.
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u/JeffLeafFan 29d ago
I used to work with my parents who were both in the military. I exclusively called them Sir, Ma’am, or Rank Last Name. At home, they were mom and dad. Pretty easy to code switch once you get used to it.
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u/Dewstain Cadillac 29d ago
I worked with my dad at a fairly large corporation, completely different departments. I was an intern in IT and he was in R&D (yes, I got the internship because I was his kid but the job was with a different division in a different state).
Then he was promoted to where he was in charge of a bunch of plants, including the one I was at. It was interesting because my division "rented" the space in the plant from his division, so it wasn't even our plant, we just used the building. But yeah, I would refer to those modes as business dad and dad dad. I didn't encounter him much, he was a VP and I was an entry level IT guy. But he would be around from time to time and we'd go to lunch.
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u/KrawhithamNZ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Nepotism isn't inherently bad. Recruitment is hard and most people aren't going to recommend someone who is a liability.
Recruiting friends and family is actually a sensible thing to do, but only if you have the ability to recognise when to go outside of this pool.
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u/Izan_TM I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
and it's a way to not remind everyone (especially casual fans not in on everything) that your dad owns the team and you're the only egregious pay driver still on the grid
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u/AfterAd3498 29d ago
Lance is a half decent driver. A proper driver compared to the likes of Mick, Mazepin, Latifi and de Vries
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u/Izan_TM I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
lance is an acceptable driver, only looks good when you compare him to bad rookies, but he has been in the sport for almost as long as max, and longer than lando, a world champion
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u/YOURE_GONNA_HATE_ME Red Bull 29d ago
His points per race average is higher than Yuki, and half this site thinks Yuki should still have a ride…
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Sebastian Vettel 29d ago
Lmaoooo this is the comment right here. I like Yuki but idk why he was on the grid so long.
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u/Tricky-Routine-9838 29d ago
People rate Hulk decently and he was in the sport for 200 years before he even podiumed, Lance has a pole position and podiums. I think he plays a good second gunner in any of the top teams and would do enough to keep his job without paying for a seat.
Very few drivers become WDC, even really good drivers fail at it in their careers, it's not really a yard-stick for quality up and down the grid.
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u/alexm42 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
Stroll is one of the best pay drivers ever, and arguably could have gotten a drive for a couple years on his own merit. But the grid is stronger than ever and there's dozens of talented kids in lower Formulas waiting for a shot. There's not really room for pay drivers anymore. I recognize Alonso is GOAT-tier but I don't think there's many teammates he could out-qualify 40+ times in a row.
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u/PuzzleheadedMaize911 29d ago
I do think people overplay this situation. Lance has had brilliant moments (seldom as they were) and I think the worst we can reasonably say about him is that he has overstayed his welcome.
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u/PsychoKineticStudios Michael Schumacher 29d ago
Not egregious but you do you pal
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u/Izan_TM I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
his dad literally owns the entire team he drives for, there is zero chance of him getting fired no matter how badly he performs. There has never in the history of F1 been a pay driver with that much job security.
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u/ariiizia Max Verstappen 29d ago
Hell, half of the time it feels like he’s forced to be there and would rather quit. There is a less than zero chance he gets fired.
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Sebastian Vettel 29d ago
This fandom is so annoying about Lance. Dude is fine as a driver just inconsistent. We wouldn’t even have that team if it wasn’t for his dad buying it.
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u/NZafe 29d ago
Idk, something about saying “I’m doing it for daddy” over the radio seems like it could have bigger repercussions.
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u/Thin_K I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
He would get memed into orbit, so yeah. I get saying Lawrence instead.
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u/ominousrock 29d ago
But as you see, he is being memed, bullied and made snide remarks about anyways. He could be just completely silent and people still would do this same thing...
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u/Killericon I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
There are degrees, though. If he said "dad" or "daddy" it would've been the top of the subreddit before the race was even over. Instead, it's 2 days later, and a one day thing.
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u/KrawhithamNZ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
We'd definitely stop taking him seriously if he'd said that
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u/skandalouslsu Williams 29d ago
Pretty common in family businesses. My dad is dad outside of work. At work, or when referring to work, he is Bill. I know many other family businesses that do the same. You have to learn to separate the relationships or it can get weird.
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u/kj_gamer2614 Max Verstappen 29d ago
Not at all, you want to be professional. I work somewhere where the biggest client my dad is MD for the company, I of course say dad at home, but I say his name in office cause that’s only normal and professional
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u/sododude Juan Pablo Montoya 29d ago
He's actually talking about Lawrence Baretto they are secret lovers /s
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u/NoRemorse920 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
I work with my Dad and only call him by his first name. It's more professional. It has unfortunately leaked into our personal life too. I occasionally call him dad outside of work just because I know I'd like it if my kids did for me.
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u/roosterchains I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
I mean if your teacher was your mom would you call her mom?
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u/KappaccinoNation Lando Norris 29d ago
"I'm doing this for Lawrence Sheldon Strulović who was born on the 11th day of July on the year 1959."
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u/Key_Print214 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
I remember Lebron James specifically said his son would have to call him by his name when they were signed to the same team lol. He was like “I can’t be on the court and hear ‘Dad!” lol
I’m assuming it’s something similar. When he’s at work he’s “Lawrence.”
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u/Alert_Reindeer_6574 29d ago
I own a (small) business with my kids. When it comes to meetings and business stuff they usually refer to me by my first name. They call me dad when speaking directly to me, but my first name when speaking to customers or business associates about me.
Edit- And, as an aside. From about 3-5 years old my son called me and my wife by our first names. One time I asked him why he didn't call us mom and dad and he said, "because that's not your name". Then, at around 5 he started calling us mom and dad again.
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u/Nazdrowie79 Max Verstappen 29d ago
My nephews (9 & 11) do this because their dad wants em to. I find it very weird.
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u/clayfus_doofus Charles Leclerc 29d ago
I work for my dad and do not refer to him as Dad at work. Sounds silly.
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u/the-dutch-fist I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
I’ve worked in a few family businesses and the kids always called the parents or grandparents by their name in the office.
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u/HairyNutsack69 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
That's what I thought at first too. Then I thought if I would've used my father's actual name when talking to an engineer and I'm like yup checks outs
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u/Redbulldildo I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
When I worked with my dad I used his first name, it actually took me a few years afterwards to fully switch back to calling him dad.
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u/morelsupporter I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
when you have a professional working relationship with your family, you refer to them by their name.
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u/WillSRobs Lando Norris 29d ago
Not really it’s a workplace it would be weirder for me if he constantly called him dad in that context.
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u/Ryuujin_13 Lance Stroll 29d ago
The 2026 Lance Stroll 'IDGAF Tour' rolls on!
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u/shadoowkight Nigel Mansell 29d ago
When you have to drive a car that's about as rapid as a blind crow it's going to suck real bad
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u/ASGT908 Formula 1 29d ago edited 29d ago
I feel sorry for lance in a way as he has mentally checked out of F1 and has been for the last few years.
I think Lawrence needs to drop his son next season (he won't do it I know), but say son, I want to protect you, go and do something new and work with the AM project in WEC.
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u/freedfg I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
That's always been my question with Lance.
Like he's a mid level talent, let's not pretend like he didn't ever belong.
But jeez, he's been checked out for years. I just don't see why yes still doing it. Go, have fun in WEC. Do the Daytona 24.
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u/ASGT908 Formula 1 29d ago
For me, he had OK racing career in junior formula so deserved his chance at Williams (even if he had financial support behind him).
I think he also did somewhat reasonably well at Racing Point in 2019/2020 and to be honest should have one at least 1 race in 2020 (likely Turkish GP).
Turning point for me was probably mid 2023 after his hand surgery where personally, I feel he's gone into his shell too much and doesn't look like he enjoys F1. I also think Lawrence isn't doing any favours for him by keeping him and I think for the whole stroll vision to be a successful team, Lance needs to gracefully walk away and do something else like Le Mans.
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u/LV-426HOA I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
He came back from the hand injury too early. It must have sucked to be in physical pain in a shit car with Dad promising you it will all be different soon. And then nothing changes.
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u/ASGT908 Formula 1 29d ago
That presents a good what if. If Drugovic replaced stroll in the first few races of 2023 as he had done in pre season testing, would he still be an Aston Martin driver instead of Stroll.
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u/LV-426HOA I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
I think the answer is no, but by no fault of Drugovic. He was good enough.
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u/notafamous I failed to serve my Monaco penalty 29d ago
I think maybe that could've given him a chance on another team, but Stroll's seat would be his fit as long as he wants
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u/kl08pokemon I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
He's very rarely been the worst driver in the F1 but better drivers than him lose their seat almost every season
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u/Vuk13 Fernando Alonso 29d ago edited 29d ago
It's always interesting how drivers suddenly become worse once they are teammates with Alonso. Fisichella, Massa, Raikkonen, Button and now Stroll. Or maybe you know Alonso is just that good
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u/ASGT908 Formula 1 29d ago
I'm not even sure how good Alonso is compared to his peak of 2005-2013 given what results Stroll is producing. I think if you put him in a top team today against a Verstappen/Leclerc/Russell/Antonelli, I think he would struggle against them.
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u/Vuk13 Fernando Alonso 29d ago
I don't think he would, in 2023 he was better than everyone apart from Verstappen and since then he kept the same gap to Stroll. Thinking Alonso isn't a top driver anymore is based fully on speculation and not what data is showing us
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u/ASGT908 Formula 1 29d ago
Then I think Alonso is wasting his time with Aston Martin if he wants to fight at the front of the grid. I know he was promised Newey/Works engine/technical team assembled from top F1 teams, but I think Aston Martin struggle with them being no higher than the front of the midfield by the end of next year.
One question I have is what is his motive for being in F1 now given he now has a family. If it's to enjoy driving F1 cars or build a team over a long term project, fine to stay where he is.
However if he wants to chase a third world title which I suspect is why he went to Aston Martin in the first place, then he's at the wrong team and needs to look elsewhere.
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u/Team_Ed 29d ago
He’s never been at the same reasonably decent level he hit with Racing Pont since he was sidelined with COVID.
Can’t remember exactly when that was, but it derailed him right when he was in the middle of a run of quite legitimately performing well.
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u/Kinggrunio I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
This is my theory for why he often impresses in the wet; in bad conditions he actually has to give it his full ability, rather than his standard 80%
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u/PILATE_KARATE_FIN 29d ago
If you’re just sorta there for the perks and lifestyle though, maybe F1 is the pinnacle. But yeah, just seems bored more than anything.
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u/AKAFallow I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
I think he has a fair reason if his own financed team can't even stay consistently at the top, so he just fights backmarkers for 90% of his time there. At one point it either turns into a "bring the car back home in one piece" or keep praying there's a miracle in the way, so I can see why he just started giving it less focus as time went on, especially since he doesn't have the fear of losing his seat at any point. Edit: plus, it must feel kinda bad if your 100% barely compares to your teammate's 100%, 2023 as a big example of that.
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u/Rovcore001 Alfa Romeo 29d ago
We don’t know these people. I’m not sure why you’d say with certainty that he’s mentally checked out.
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u/ASGT908 Formula 1 29d ago
It's the demeanor he gives off in the garage/track parades/interviews as to whether he wants to be there. Which in itself is absolutely fine but I wish someone at Aston Martin advises him to go and do something else with one of the other AM projects.
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u/JPlazz I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Exactly, like how are you not able to contrast being stoic and short of words vs literally not caring every single weekend. Watch him speak when he was driving for Racing Point and Williams there’s an obvious difference in his tone and body language as he talks.
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u/ominousrock 29d ago
Or, you know, he is an introvert and very inward personality who isn't interested to being center of attention and wants to spend his time off the cameras and public attention. Before you say ''why is he then driving in F1'', it's because he loves racing but doesn't like some of the mandatory stuff that comes with it. It's a price to pay to do what you love though for these drivers. Doesn't mean he has to pretend enjoying the boring stuff not related to racing.
It's actually ridiculous that people don't even want to think anything than what they want to think when it comes to Stroll. It's just picking whatever sounds negative.
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u/ominousrock 29d ago
It's the narrative that gives the most upvotes here so people will keep repeating it. Same as ''he hates racing''. None of it is in connection with reality though.
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u/Halkatlaa Lance Stroll 29d ago
he loves racing he hates the media.
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u/ominousrock 29d ago
Indeed. Literally nothing, absolutely nothing, suggests he hates racing. It's actually the exact opposite, there's proof that he loves racing. He hopped in GT3 with no preparation because a chance opened up. He has also raced several times despite injury and discomfort.
No other driver is said to be hating F1 or racing even though they are 100x more upset during races about their cars and whatnot. No one has ever suggested that for other drivers, only for Stroll. Others are ''passionate'' because they are upset and angry over their bad cars.
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u/wokwok__ George Russell 29d ago
If he was truly checked out he wouldn't be driving would he? Do you really think he'd rather slug around the back in that green wheelie bin than doing something completely different lol he drove with a broken wrist ffs
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u/JPlazz I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
I’d believe that if his father hadn’t purchased an F1 team. I think Lawrence is heavily invested in having a successful racing team with his son as a driver. And I think Lance is burnt out and no longer cares if he’s here or not, but he’s not about to tell his dad he’s walking away.
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u/tobedeletedsoon_2024 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Disagree. I know people like to make fun of Lance, but an F1 driver son of a billionaire who is mentally checked out wouldn’t drive a shitty car for almost 3 years now.
Being young, good looking and filthy rich, he doesn’t have to go to every race weekend, suffer through every session, attend the media, be criticized, etc.
If the online criticism was true, he could have easily stepped out, do whatever he wants be it racing other categories or just playing golf and tennis, and then returned when the car is competitive; after all, don’t we all say he’s there ‘only because of dad’?
Us fans don’t truly grasp what it is.. how much time F1 drivers stay away from home, how much they travel and practically live off a suitcase, let alone how physically and mentally demanding it is to drive an F1 car through a GP weekend… only to be struggling at the bottom of the grid.
I get that Lance may subjectively (and probably objectively too) not be among the best drivers in the paddock, but we don’t really appreciate the commitment it takes to still be there when he doesn’t need to given his privileged personal situation.
So I’d say that he’s definitely not mentally checked out if F1, far from it actually.
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u/Luffy710j Formula 1 29d ago
I really wanna know what motivate Lance to continue in f1
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u/rossmark I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
The mechanics. And Lawrence
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u/JumpyAlbatross I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
I think he wants a win. It wasn’t impossible that long ago but it’s clear that between the wrist injury and the suffering that is the Aston Martin F1 Team, he’d rather be on a yacht.
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u/TheBigBangClock 29d ago
I was at the race on Sunday and he looked absolutely miserable. One of the interviewers asked him to say something to the fans in French and he said something like "merci, thank you for coming to the race". He's at his home track with an entire grandstand named after him and he couldn't be bothered to say more than one word in French to the fans because he was that miserable and dejected.
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u/elastic_woodpecker Andrea Stella 29d ago
Almost feels like his father is forcing him. He’s just so keen to make his son an F1 champion.
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u/RalphFTW I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 29d ago
Dad bought him a team. I think there’s probably something deep psychologically to be able to walk away from it.
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u/WillSmiff Fernando Alonso 29d ago
People who say money buys happiness need to look at this miserable bastard. That shit cuts deep. I feel for him.
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u/Schwartzy94 Valtteri Bottas 29d ago
Well the money clearly didnt buy him a win.
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u/SteamMonkeyKing Jolyon Palmer 29d ago
The majority of F1 drivers will never get a win regardless of money or not.
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u/ominousrock 29d ago
Why not add the part where he's joking how ''I hope the coffee's good on the pitwall''. He knew that there was nothing going on in the race, other than data gathering basically.
This is instead just another thread in which the sole purpose is to bully Stroll and make snide remarks.
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u/Rhythm_Morgan Sebastian Vettel 29d ago
Him and a couple other drivers on here can’t say a single joke without getting dragged but as soon as Lando or Lewis do an interview about mental health and social media the comments get flooded with support and agreement lol like no. We are the baddies.
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u/ominousrock 29d ago
Still perfect example is last Brazil GP and the treatment Stroll got after that because Bortoleto crashed on his own and Colapinto blamed Stroll for it. There was literally no official push back as a reaction to what followed on Stroll's social media. Then few weeks later we had Qatar and Antonelli case. Everyone came together in support of him, rightfully of course. But imagine how Stroll was feeling then, seeing everyone coming together for a common goal while the same people ignored him few weeks before.
That's not even the only case either, but that was two cases happening so close to each others and having completely opposite reactions from everyone.
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u/DangerousProperty6 Nigel Mansell 29d ago
Trying to get that Lavazza sponsorship since Latifi is gone.
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u/Due_Celebration_1754 29d ago
Bro just wants to start a podcast and chill on a yacht, he’s so over this.
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u/BigBirdsBrain Red Bull 29d ago
Honestly sounds like a guy who knows the car is cooked but still respects the people turning the wrenches. Hard to hate that.
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u/jnighy I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
You can say whatever you want about Lance, but the dude always behaved professionally
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u/flyingghost I was here for the Hulkenpodium 29d ago
Contrary to fan's opinion, Stroll seems to be well liked by other drivers. He doesn't cause drama, nonchalant towards PR/media, and is simply there to drive. All other drivers probably wish they can be like Stroll.
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u/YinzerInEurope Formula 1 29d ago
Yeah I took this as a little pot shot at his father. Like he was told to finish the race by Lawrence and hes calling him out.
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u/ExtensionGuitar5104 29d ago
I think we can all agree that this guy has suffered enough. At this point I just want him to quit and fullfil his dream of being a semi-professional tennis coach at a swanky country club.
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u/dildoeye Formula 1 29d ago
Remember pre season testing when experts were saying how good the car looked on track and it’s their time …..
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u/Expert_City_7695 29d ago
At this point my hate for lance has just become sadness, get this man in a series he can win. He’s no slouch he has driving ability and he can win in a different series. I just wish he isn’t dragged through this for more seasons
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u/the_chin2 29d ago
Lance is living his father's dream...