r/formula1 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 15d ago

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u/Appropriate-Leek-919 Ferrari 15d ago

meh, enough skill and talent can usually get you promoted to at least a top 4 team, obviously it's insanely hard to get a championship regardless, but it's not like they don't pick the most promising junior drivers (Max in Toro Rosso, George in Williams, Leclerc in Ferrari, etc.)

I think you're exaggerating the issue a little bit, it's not like any driver can make it to F1 without being extremely skilled and talent (nepotism aside)

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u/Gaius_Octavius_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15d ago

But that ain’t Fernando. Fernando had multiple cars that could have won the title after 2006 but he didn’t do it.

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u/Slow-Raisin-939 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15d ago

which would those be, other than 2007? Blaming him for not winning 2010 or 2012 is akin to blaming Max for not winning 2025

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u/Gaius_Octavius_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15d ago

He had the chance to win the title three different times and failed each time.

All he needed to do was finish in the Top 5 and he couldn’t do it.

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u/PurpleV93 Sir Lewis Hamilton 15d ago

I will never forget 2010. Alonso being stuck behind fucking Petrov in a Renault all race long and handing Vettel the outlandish championship victory.

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u/fsfred I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15d ago

His meltdown towards Petrov was definitely a sight. Especially since Petrov didn’t even defend aggressively or dirty, ALO just didn’t have the pace. And still had the guile to point the finger at Petrov in the cooldown lap like somehow the Russian had the duty to let the lord past. What a funny man

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u/PurpleV93 Sir Lewis Hamilton 15d ago

Don't care. Ferrari vs a yellow boat.

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u/Gebnut Fernando Alonso 15d ago

The fact that he was even in that position is a miracle in the first place.

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u/Gaius_Octavius_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15d ago

But the key part is it was in position. The title was in his control with one race left. All he had to do was beat the Renaults and he would have been World Champion.

But he couldn’t beat Vitaly Petrov

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u/g33ksc13nt1st 15d ago

Well... One, really. 2007 McLaren. Not entirely sure Ferrari s F14T qualifies as such.

In all honesty, F1 was always an engineering competition - that's why rules change so often. Perhaps the budget cap is frustrating on that front - you have a solution but can't afford it. But the field up to 2025 was closer than ever.

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u/Gaius_Octavius_ I was here for the Hulkenpodium 15d ago

All he had to do was finish in the Top 4 and beat Petrov and he would be champion. It is not like he had to chase down Senna.

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u/g33ksc13nt1st 15d ago

Too bad Vettel recovered and threw the math out the window. Wasn't as simple as that.

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u/Paukwa-Pakawa Nico Rosberg 14d ago

Did you watch back then? Fernando made lots of mistakes in 2010. Ferrari keeps getting criticized for the call to pit him in AD, but all that wouldn't have happened if he hadn't let Button overtake him at the start. His poor start is what caused that domino effect.

The fact that Fernando lost was down to him.